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Clean and Easy STB 5
#718683 - 03/01/14 01:26 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well this is not really a "other growable" but I thought this was the most relevant place to post this.
Below is a nice writeup on extracting DMT. Enjoy. *it is recommend to replace plastic items with glass.
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1. 445.9g MHRB was broken up and finely shredded in a glass blender
2. 15 tbsp NaOH was added to 3,400 mL dH2O (Always add lye to water).
3. MHRB was combined with basic H2O in a 1 gal HDPE water jug. (If the mixture is basic enough, it will turn a slippery black color)
4. This mixture was allowed to sit for 1 hr. During the last 30 min, the jug was placed in a hot water bath. The jug was shaken periodically throughout the whole hour.
5. 250 ml vm&p naphtha was added to the jug. The jug was shaken for ~15 min
6. After 15 min the naphtha was separated off with this handy syringe contraption (hell of a lot easier than a turkey baster). It was made by gluing two meat injector syringes together, and then gluing some 1/4" Polyethylene tubing to the tip.
If you happen to suck up some basic sludge, don't worry, just empty the syringe into a pyrex measuring cup. The solvent can then easily be poured off of the tiny bit of sludge you may have sucked up
*Apparently, using two syringes is necessary so that the naphtha does not come in contact with the rubber on the plunger. because naphtha will melt/corrode the rubber on shitty meat injector syringes.
I suspect if one had access to lab grade materials that don't degrade with chemical contact, this could be avoided.
7. 4 naphtha pulls of 200-250ml were done in total. Before the 3rd pull, another 100ml of basic dH2O was added to the mixture
8. Separated naphtha was placed into pyrex baking dishes. Lights were used as a heat source to accelerate the evaporation of 2/3 of the solvent.
*If you decide to do this, it is very important to pay attention to your evaporation trays, checking them constantly*
9. The remaining 1/3 of solvent in each pan was left to evaporate for 24 hrs. Screens were made out of some wood and some nylon stockings. They were very cheap to make, and are highly recommended if one will be going the evaporation route.
*Optimism skyrocketed when the first pull began to crystallize while the naphtha was still warm*
10. The next day the screens were removed to find many beautiful crystals.
First Pull (still drying):
Dried:
Second Pull:
Third Pull:
Fourth Pull:
The 1st pull yielded 1.9g of large, tannish crystals, mixed in with whiter powdery crystals:
2nd pull yielded 1.1g of white powdery crystals:
3rd pull yielded 1.2g of white powdery crystals:
4th pull yielded 0.6g of white powdery crystals:
Total Yield: 4.8g very clean spice, with no defats, and no washes.
(1st Pull on the left, 2nd, 3rd & 4th pulls combined on right)
Edited by Deadkndys420 (01/18/15 08:01 PM)
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Re: Clean and Easy STB [Re: Deadkndys420] 1
#718941 - 03/02/14 03:06 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ohhh yeaaaaahh!
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Re: Clean and Easy STB [Re: Deadkndys420] 1
#718994 - 03/02/14 05:00 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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fuck ya
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Re: Clean and Easy STB [Re: P-O] 1
#718995 - 03/02/14 05:04 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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is it even possible to get MHRB anymore? i havent seen it for a couple years.
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Re: Clean and Easy STB [Re: CrushNazT] 1
#719003 - 03/02/14 05:16 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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I saw a vendor selling powdered MHRB for 140 a kilo
I plan on buying some on Friday.
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Re: Clean and Easy STB [Re: Deadkndys420] 1
#719031 - 03/02/14 08:18 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Deadkndys420 said: I saw a vendor selling powdered MHRB for 140 a kilo
I plan on buying some on Friday.
let me know how that goes. i'd like to pick one up if i could.
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Re: Clean and Easy STB [Re: CrushNazT] 1
#719415 - 03/05/14 07:01 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Turns out that vendor was no good. (broken site)
I also found out that looking for MHRB under Mimosa Hostilis,Jurema bark, etc is near impossible. But as it turns it people are selling it under " Acacia Tenuiflora Tepezcohuite" instead of MHRB. Someone on Ebay is selling a kilo for 110.
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Re: Clean and Easy STB [Re: Deadkndys420] 2
#719418 - 03/05/14 07:22 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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I emailed my old vendor about MHRB and cactus chips, and this is the reply i got:
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Thanks for your message.
Unfortunately, we don't know when or even if we'll supply the Mimosa as the governments and customs don't allow importation and exportation of this wonderful incense anymore. We find this situation very sad, since this plant was great to make nice incense and to treat skin problems.
For the Peruvian Torch we are presently back order but we should receive some more within the spring. do you want to be notice when it get back on stock?
Also , we supply the Acacia Confusa Root bark which is a very similar incense to the Mimosa. Here are the prices for the availables quantities:
so ya apparently acacia is the new thing people are using .
"We find this situation very sad, since this plant was great to make nice incense and to treat skin problems"
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Re: Clean and Easy STB [Re: P-O] 1
#719635 - 03/06/14 09:21 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Anyone have any idea on what the screens are for?
It looks like they are on top of the trays to prevent dust etc.
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Re: Clean and Easy STB [Re: Deadkndys420] 4
#719751 - 03/07/14 06:16 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ya probably to prevent dust and other unwanted things like wombats and pigeon feathers, but still have sufficient airflow at the top.
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Re: Clean and Easy STB [Re: nannybooboo] 3
#719754 - 03/07/14 06:53 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah I always get pigeon feathers in my product if I don't cover it with screen while evap.
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Dr. Siekadellyk said: Yeah I always get pigeon feathers in my product if I don't cover it with screen while evap.
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Re: Clean and Easy STB [Re: Deadkndys420] 1
#720245 - 03/09/14 07:53 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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havent had dmt in a while. this thread is making me want some
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Re: Clean and Easy STB [Re: Deadkndys420] 1
#739275 - 07/08/14 09:00 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Bump.
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Re: Clean and Easy STB [Re: Deadkndys420] 1
#739339 - 07/08/14 04:04 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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broke through yet?
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Re: Clean and Easy STB [Re: P-O] 1
#739347 - 07/08/14 04:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nah not yet. I can't seem to hold it in long enough. Gonna try making a meth bong and hope that helps next time.
Even after using heptane to refine it some more it is still harsh as fuck.
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Re: Clean and Easy STB [Re: Deadkndys420] 1
#739348 - 07/08/14 04:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Also if someone is going the syringe route I highly recommend buying a glass one. Plastic will corrode too easily and is a PITA to deal with no matter what adhesive/silicone you use.
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Re: Clean and Easy STB [Re: Deadkndys420] 2
#739569 - 07/10/14 06:24 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sorry for the bump but i feel like this should be addressed.
Using plastic can still be dangerous, Use glass so no unwanted Phthalates are present
Please read more for you safety and knowledge! No casualties please. https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=26324
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Re: Clean and Easy STB [Re: Deadkndys420] 1
#745433 - 08/27/14 09:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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First off, super sick post.
Second...ive never tried it but ive heard that you can dab DMT off a nail and dome set up
i dunno how that would compare to a meth bong?
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As long as the temps are right I don't see why it wouldn't work.
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Try it out
let us know what its like
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Tagged this one for later use.
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Sweet, I've been looking for exactly this.
Now if only someone could please break down the acronyms.
MHRB = MIMOSA HOSTILIS ROOT BARK
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Hey Deadkndys420, have u tried using acacia n if so how do u feel the product compared with mimosa? i've heard there more 5-meo-dmt in the acacia.
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Nah I never used that only mimosa
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Why would u wanna use something scheduled when u can use something cheaper that's also unscheduled.... ???
Mimosa is washed up imo
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Re: Clean and Easy STB [Re: Nevar44]
#817044 - 07/18/16 02:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Because mimosa has the highest concentration. I could use grass trimmings if I wanted to. But the return would be miniscule. And mimosa isn't against the law either. People use it for cosmetic purposes.
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Re: Clean and Easy STB [Re: Nevar44]
#817045 - 07/18/16 02:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nevar44 said: Why would u wanna use something scheduled when u can use something cheaper that's also unscheduled.... ???
Mimosa is washed up imo
Mimosa Hostillis is not controlled in the united states. It's just hard to find sources lately because of customs being assholes and vendors stopping selling it because its reaching a taboo level of awareness on what people use it for n they dont want the hassle it brings.
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Back when I made this thread sellers on eBay were selling it.
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Quote:
Dr. Siekadellyk said:
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Nevar44 said: Why would u wanna use something scheduled when u can use something cheaper that's also unscheduled.... ???
Mimosa is washed up imo
Mimosa Hostillis is not controlled in the united states. It's just hard to find sources lately because of customs being assholes and vendors stopping selling it because its reaching a taboo level of awareness on what people use it for n they dont want the hassle it brings.
Ugggghhh, pretty sure all of what u described is due to the fact it's now scheduled in a manner it was not before.
Consequently, many orders now get seized.
Sure vendors still sell it tho
Not sure why ud wanna mess w it tho. Acacia is much easier and it can be harvested sustainably if u get it from the right the right vendor in Taiwan... only the Taiwan climate can provide a sustainable harvest of acacia
Q21q21's lime tek is what I've heeeaaaarrdd works great w acacia
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Ive been reading nexus recently, people are getting double the yield almost of what you have here by adding salt. Also not sure you added enuff hydroxide. Most people are 50/50ing hydroxide and adding 30g table salt per 50g mhrb because it increases yields a lot and decreases emulsion.
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May I ask what a HDPE water jug is? U think a clear plastic Poland Springs gallon bottle would work fine? Or what type of plastic is safest? As I've heard the chems could eat away the rubber ring on jars... What do u use exactly? I just got a fresh kilo of bark n tryna do a big batch pull instead of little ones I'm done messing around, gotta feed the hungry.
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I'd love to find a tek safe enough for IV.
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HDPE (High-Density Polyethylene) containers usually have a Resin Identification Code embossed somewhere on the container. The code is 2 for HDPE.
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Re: Clean and Easy STB [Re: Data]
#824747 - 03/15/17 02:40 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Also, all thermoplastics have some unreacted monomers and antioxidants left over in trace amounts. Additionally, HDPE is more chemically resistant than polypropylene labware, but can't be autoclaved. Still, it's chemical resistance is limited to "some organic solvents".
Honestly, as long as you arent heating your nonpolar solvents when adding to the jug, then you'll minimize leaching. But since this method calls for heating, I would suggest using a glass growler in place of the milk jug, and possibly try to avoid using a plastic syringe if you can figure out an alternative way to transfer the solvent out.
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Re: Clean and Easy STB [Re: Data]
#824793 - 03/15/17 09:25 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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I hope this jasco brand VM&P Naphtha that I got is clean enough to use. It was all they had at Lowe's just before closing. I heard its OK but doing an evap test now.
http://www.jasco-help.com/uploads/products/Jasco_Naphtha_Gal_GJVM190.jpg
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That should be fine.
Btw I suggest using glass too. I bought some glass syringes off eBay for under $10.
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How do I know if the tubing I have is good for this? It's thick and clear, I took it off the air pump for my hydro system. Also I wonder how a freeze pre-op would work with this as the not waste q much naphtha?
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Bump
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