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 P-O
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 PO's grow questions. 
#717627 - 02/25/14 06:34 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Not wanting to do a full growlog yet. but i do have and will have some questions on the way.
Stone and hawk have been helpin me a bit so far (thanks bros)
question 1:
This train wreck seedling is really purple under the leaves (top of leaf is normal green)... my skunk47's and kush dont seem to be showing the same color change.
Would this be genetics or because its too cold (its in a semi cold basement and its been -30 outside for last few weeks). They all look healthy so far, just a lil weird to see so much purple on a seedling.
question 2:
Im looking for nute recommendations. Something good for vegging (moms), and maybe something for flowering. Ill be ordering in ebay so i can prob find almost anything available
Whats a good all purpose one? im guessin different nutes are needed for flowering.
Edited by P-O (02/25/14 11:33 PM)
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 Re: PO's grow questions. [Re: P-O]
#717669 - 02/25/14 08:48 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Cold could have something to do to with it as I know they tend to turn purple in cold weather. The others might just be heartier so maybe thats why they didn't turn purple. 
As for nutes I recommend pure blend pro grow and bloom. It's nice because they are both "all in one" and it's hard to burn the plants with them I have been told.
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Re: PO's grow questions. [Re: Deadkndys420]
#717679 - 02/25/14 10:46 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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nice after couple hours of reading it sounds like thats a good choice.
i found one bottle on ebay for $22+$20 shipping 
then i found this
http://www.hydroshop.ca/en/botanicare-pure-blend-pro-starter-kit.html
Contains
Pure Blend Pro™ Grow 1 Pint
Pure Blend Pro™ Bloom 1 Pint
Liquid Karma® 8oz
Cal-Mag Plus™ 8oz
Sweet® 8oz
Hydroplex® 8oz
Silica Blast™ 8oz
$55 + $10 shipping 
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Re: PO's grow questions. [Re: P-O]
#717680 - 02/25/14 10:55 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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That's a good deal and has a lot of the additives that you'd want, esp the silica blast. I paid way more for my basic grow/bloom/micro trio.
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Re: PO's grow questions. [Re: Inocuole]
#717681 - 02/25/14 11:32 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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question 3:
any huge advantage in ordering an aeroponic cloner machine , vs using rockwool cubes under a dome + heating pad. (with cloning gel)
Seems like the cloner machines are much more $$$, but do they really do that much better. Would the average grower do ok with rockwool cubes and a dome? (then transfer to soil once they are rooted)
Question 4:
The location of this grow is in a basement. but the upstars has many house plants. The house plants have the odd tiny flys buzzin around them (size of a fruit fly) They must be living in the soil. The plants are growing fine the fly's don't seem to bug them at all.
Should we be a worried for the other plants? Any idea what pest these are?
The owner of the house (im using the basement). bought "schultz" insect spray "contains botanical insecticide derived from the pyrethrin daisy". Do you think this spray will do much? should he spray his house plant soil with it and maybe hang some sticky fly traps so they dont go downstairs?
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Re: PO's grow questions. [Re: P-O]
#717684 - 02/26/14 04:55 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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1) Yes, very much so.
2) Fungus gnats. Get you some ladybugs. Fungus gnats are a ladybugs favorite food. You should be concerned that you will infest your garden in the basement with the gnats which would easily be introduced into the basement by catching a ride on your clothes or catching a ride n your pet's fur (if you have a pet). Eventually the gnats will find their way down to the fresh ripe, nutrient enrich growing medium in the basement on their own unless you eradicate their herd before you begin your garden in the basement.
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Re: PO's grow questions. [Re: hamloaf]
#717708 - 02/26/14 08:21 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Q1- Prob just a funky pheno. what are your temps. are they fluctuating much?
Q2-Botanicare is a great choice. that sarter pack is a good buy as well. How many plants are you growing? How large will your containers be? How long will you be vegging? Consider all of those factors (if you haven't already) so that you have an idea how much nutes you will actually need through out veg and flower. While that starter pack is a great buy, you may find that you run out of some of the additives mid way or at the tail end of veg/flower.
Q3- I've rooted in plugs, rockwool, peat pellets, and soil. If you don't over water them and have a well controlled environment you'll do fine, but personally I prefer my ezcloner. I find it easier and i notice that the clones take off much faster when they hit soil. In an ez cloner clones are able to grow a much larger root mass than in plugs/rockwool etc.
Q4- gnats are pretty harmless. unless you have an all out infestation. I hang sticky traps on all of my plants and also feed with sns 209 to keep the white flies at bay. It works really well 
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Re: PO's grow questions. [Re: Farmer Joe]
#717728 - 02/26/14 10:21 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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If fungus gnats end up infesting and begin breeding in your soil it's Big Trouble In Little China Town for your roots. I just say stomp the problem out and keep up the general maintenance required to keep pests in check before planting to further lessen any chance of pests, diseases and molds setting in.
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Re: PO's grow questions. [Re: hamloaf]
#717758 - 02/26/14 01:05 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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I solved my major gnat problem by pouring boiling water into my pot before I transplant. Never had to with ffof just outdoor soils like kelloggs.
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Re: PO's grow questions. [Re: Deadkndys420]
#718454 - 02/28/14 05:20 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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-Well that trainwreck went back to normal green. so thats good. Looked cool for a bit tho 
-All the house plants have been isolated in a closet and we are using sticky traps and a insecticide . we haven't seen any in the basement area yet. so prob best we are doing this now before they spread downstairs
-I decided not to be so cheap... im ordering a ez cloner unit.
Question 5:
I bought ppm meter and ph tester (and + - ). So when it comes to water. its best i fill up a rubber maid and make sure my ppm and ph is good then just use that for watering, correct?
Any link or posts i can read more about water and water preparation ?
My well water is 640ppm's but our bottled water is like 5 ppm... Id like to know whats a normal ppm for JUST WATERING (no nutes yet). Can i mix my well water with distilled water till i get around 2-300 ppm? or is it best to keep it at low low ppm? and recommendations on a filters that i can use on my well water to lower the ppm?
Question 6:
So they are in dixie cups now..... i probably should cut small holes in the bottom of the cups so when i water it drains out and doesn't cause root rot, correct?
Edited by P-O (02/28/14 05:38 PM)
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#718459 - 02/28/14 05:31 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
P-O said:
Question 6:
i probably should cut small holes in the bottom of the cups so when i water it drains out and doesn't cause root rot, correct?
 this would be very wise.
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Re: PO's grow questions. [Re: Deadkndys420]
#718460 - 02/28/14 05:34 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Go with the low PPM water. No point in tempting fate with the well water.
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P-O
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Thanks guys 
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Re: PO's grow questions. [Re: P-O]
#718464 - 02/28/14 05:56 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
P-O said:
Question 5: I bought ppm meter and ph tester (and + - ). So when it comes to water. its best i fill up a rubber maid and make sure my ppm and ph is good then just use that for watering, correct?
Ya. I let my water sit for a day or 2 to let it get to room temp and also bubble out chlorine. Where you've got a well it'd be a good idea to pick up an ro filter. 640 ppm is really fucking high! The amt of water you're gonna need to balence that out will be costly over time.
Growonix makes great quality Ro systems. Check them out 
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Edited by Farmer Joe (02/28/14 05:57 PM)
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Re: PO's grow questions. [Re: Farmer Joe]
#719073 - 03/03/14 06:38 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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After you've mixed your nutrients and tested the PH is a good time to test your ppm's.
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Re: PO's grow questions. [Re: P-O]
#719915 - 03/08/14 04:06 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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So how are they doing now?
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#719918 - 03/08/14 05:03 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Edited by P-O (03/28/14 02:57 AM)
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#719920 - 03/08/14 05:12 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: PO's grow questions. [Re: legit]
#720108 - 03/09/14 11:49 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Po, Whos the breeder on that trainwreck? I bought one fem seed of trainwreck its by green house seeds. Hope that's a good breeder and didn't just rip off the name?
 Good to seed your getting your hands dirty lol
Good luck Ill be watchin 
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P-O
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ya its a green house.
outta the 3 strains i got goin its doin the best.
this video sold me:
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Re: PO's grow questions. [Re: P-O]
#720127 - 03/09/14 12:17 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hell yea Po That's the strain I have thanks for the info. I should pop mine and grow it outside this year. I just have been working with Mags strains I don't have room, plus I have some of my own strains too that's why I haven't started That bitch yet
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Does this seem right to you guys?
I can put my hand directly on the glass of my hood (600hps bulb). Its warm/semi hot. but i can leave my hand directly on the glass without it burning at all. I bought a fan to keep it all cool . but haven't even needed to instal it cuz its really not hot at all.....
I think this ipower unit maybe just has a shitty or defective bulbs? If the bulb was good it should it not be too hot to touch without a fan suckin the hot air?
I just ordered a new bulb. i hope thats what the problem is..... and not the whole ballast
The plants are doing good under it tho so far (24/0)
Edited by P-O (03/24/14 02:17 AM)
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Re: PO's grow questions. [Re: P-O]
#722955 - 03/23/14 06:50 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nah you're good. 600w fixtures don't get super hot. I'm sure you'll need to vent it further into spring though.
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Re: PO's grow questions. [Re: Farmer Joe]
#722957 - 03/23/14 07:02 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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if it doesn't get that hot, how close can i lower it to my plants?
if its not burning my hand on the glass can i lower it super close to the girls? like would 6inches be to too close ?
keep in mind this is in a big cool basement. So its not heating up the space much at all
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Re: PO's grow questions. [Re: P-O]
#722967 - 03/23/14 07:33 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Are you in veg or flower?
In veg i keep the lights 20-24" above tbe canopy. I'm not sure how close you could get them in flower. I've seen grows w/ plants 10-12" from the canopy late in flower and they were doing great. It made me wish i had thought of using 600w fixtures when i designed my flower room.
I would lower the light a little each day and see how the plants tolerate it. Some strains are going to be more sensitive than others. How close is your light anyway?
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Re: PO's grow questions. [Re: Farmer Joe]
#722972 - 03/23/14 07:55 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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still in veggy. dont plan on putting em in flower anytime soon. I dont need any smoke anytime soon  im more wanting to make mommas for now.
they are about 12-13 inches from top of plant to the glass of the hood. How will i know when they are too close? the top of the plants will go yellow/ brown (burn em)?
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Re: PO's grow questions. [Re: P-O]
#722997 - 03/23/14 09:35 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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nm i found some links on light hight and what light burn looks like.
thanks for the help joe
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#723001 - 03/23/14 09:48 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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I tried the 6 inch thing but found that the plants grew to fast and would sometimes get burned.
I keep mine at 12 to 16 inches. You could keep them a 8 inches as long as you ck your growth daily .
I'm using a 1000 watt light. Don't remember what size light your using.
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Re: PO's grow questions. [Re: KaptKid]
#723004 - 03/23/14 10:22 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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600w ... thanks kapt ! good luck on your new grow 
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Re: PO's grow questions. [Re: P-O]
#723412 - 03/26/14 07:35 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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So i watered today with a 6.5 ph water (low low ppm) ... and checked the run off .... it was like 4.5-5 ph. So the walmart soil i grabbed (expensive stuff) was acidic im guessing.
What can I do to now? should i flush it with high ph water will that fix anything? is there anything i can do?
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Re: PO's grow questions. [Re: P-O]
#723416 - 03/26/14 07:45 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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what brand of soil was it? Also you probably could use Ph up to bring up the ph it should be in the aquarium section of your walmart most likely next to the are air pumps or algee pellets.
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P-O
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I already got bottles of ph + and ph - already..... just wondering the best way to do this.
the soil is "promix"
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Re: PO's grow questions. [Re: P-O]
#723421 - 03/26/14 07:55 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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i've used promix in the past ,but didn't have a Ph problem. i would use it to bring up the water to 7.5 and water over time to bring it up slowly so you don't shock the plant with a rapid ph change. (at least thats what i would try)
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P-O
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I flushed it good tonight.... hope it helps
I may have to take cuttings and use better soil for them. I can tell the acidy soil is hurting at least 1 of my girls, so once i get some cutts i can use a better soil
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Re: PO's grow questions. [Re: P-O]
#723694 - 03/28/14 09:29 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Great idea. I don't know of any good soils at Walmart.
Fox Farms / Ocean Forest has been great for me.
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Re: PO's grow questions. [Re: KaptKid]
#723718 - 03/29/14 08:09 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Shouldn't be anything wrong with Promix. The key is to test before you plant and adjust accordingly. No organic material is going to be totally consistent in characteristic.
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Re: PO's grow questions. [Re: drawde]
#724470 - 04/03/14 10:27 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Deff gotta thank hawks for getting me to LST
Ordered a $50 bulb and yesterday... fucking thing flickered for a min then broke inside 
Edited by P-O (04/03/14 12:16 PM)
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#724476 - 04/03/14 11:52 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: PO's grow questions. [Re: Magash]
#724477 - 04/03/14 12:04 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm using an ultra sun 1000W HPS and MH set myself. It seems pretty decent but I haven't had experience with any other lights.
Plants seem to dig it.
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Re: PO's grow questions. [Re: Inocuole]
#729099 - 05/02/14 07:03 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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How are they coming along?
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P-O
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Re: PO's grow questions. [Re: Deadkndys420]
#729149 - 05/03/14 08:15 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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well those plants were killed
And made into a shitload of clones.....
which 15 now are fully cloned (rooted). and growing nice and healthy right now. funny how some strain root so much better then others (only 3 trainwrecks rooted, yet almost all the skunk47 rooted quick)
reason i did this was i just wanted a dozen plants for od season. It was the plan from the beginning. im more excited for outdoor season then to do a small indoor grow
now i got 15 nice healthy plants ready to be planted outside (plus some autos widows i just started from seed) . they are all currently growing indoors with my tomato, pepper, and tobacco plants.
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Re: PO's grow questions. [Re: P-O]
#729151 - 05/03/14 08:35 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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You should get those tobacco plants out of there man. TMV and all that.
Also, how long did you give the trainwrecks? I've come across a couple of strains in the past that just took forever, but all ended up rooting.
Just planted like 28 clones yesterday. New grow coming up for you guys.
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P-O
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More TW prob would have rooted if i gave em longer. but 12 plants was my goal and now with 15 rooted plus my autos i couldn't be happier. Cant wait to get my girls outside
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You should get those tobacco plants out of there man. TMV and all that.
kk will do. I don't wanna take any risks
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Just planted like 28 clones yesterday. New grow coming up for you guys.
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Re: PO's grow questions. [Re: P-O]
#729170 - 05/03/14 12:24 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hell yea !!
I have like 50 clones getting ready for my summer grow too.
The strains are Ww, cr. plus, chocolate heaven, Mags eater,Haze and autos.
Should be a great summer grow. A lot of work. I only have 2 holes dug
I dig big enough or one bag of ff.
Also almost forgot. I found like 3 seeds in some nug
It came from the pegans so that's what I named it
So we will see.
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