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Hi Fellas. First-time grower, first-time poster. The long-and-short of it:
12 Super lemon haze (fem) from seed veg week three Flood and drain hydro system Fox Farm nutes per their schedule Watering every 2 hrs except at night 1000w MH on 18/6 Ph 6.5 No way to measure PPM Temp 80F H20 Temp 70F O2 bubbler
So I have 12 plants of the same strain and every one of them has a different morphology, color, and problem. I understand that there can be different phenotypes in the same strain but this is weird.
First let me say that as seedlings they were under stress for about 8 days because we had to hide them from a maintenance man who didn't show up on schedule, so the little gals got crappy lighting and temperature fluctuation for a time. Presently I have two plants that are about 4" taller than the rest. I'm afraid they have gone male on me.
Second of all it has been slow going. They are finally starting to take off so maybe that is characteristic of this strain.
What is really bothering me is that I have one plant (one of the tall ones) whose leaves, including new growth, are turning under. Another two plants have brown tips, and one other that looks like tobacco virus.
All things being equal - they share the same environment, lighting, nutrients, etc - I would think if I had a nute/ph or other problem, all the plants would share the same symptoms. On the whole, the plants look really healthy, strong root systems, thick stems,no stretching, etc. So WTH?
Perhaps I'm over-worried since I'm new at this. Any insight or suggestions would be appreciated. *************************************** Ok, I've been having problems posting pictures (dumb newbie)so I've reposted my whole question and I'm going to try ONE MORE TIME, Here goes:
Thanks, I did not consider that they all may have different needs. I have been using the FF feeding schedule and have read in other posts that since they are in the business of selling their product they over-emphasize how much nutrient to use. Since I don't have a EC meter I have been going by tsp/Tsp per gallon. What do you suggest - cut it down by half perhaps?
Thanks, I'll be changing the tank in the AM. Also, I just noticed that some branches are now starting to turn purple, ack. Maybe I should go a little lower on the ph? I've been keeping it at 6.5. I think I read in the diagnosis section that for hydro it should be lower, around 5.8? I have the dropper-bottle ph kit so I don't think I can get quite that accurate but I should be able to hit 6.0 or 5.5 easily enough.
The first two pics are of the plant I think might have the virus. If it does it came embedded in the seed because it came to life looking like this. The third picture is a different plant, the leaves in places are a dark shiny green and curled under.
Hi Guys, thanks for all the advice. I lowered the ph to 6.0 and backed off on the nutrients a bit. What a HUGE difference it has made. They are starting to look great almost overnight:
BEFORE (small weenie-looking plants)
AFTER (much healthier lush-looking plants)
Big difference! Chlorosis is nearly cured and the leaf-curling has stopped as has the brown tips.
As to getting a mother plant as someone suggested: Great idea. First of all it would have saved a whole lot of money in the seed department(dumbass that I am). Truly, though, I expected a little variation in the plants but nothing like this. Maybe 2 out of 12 look like they have the same genetics. The only common denominator is the wicked lemon stink gassing up my basement. Time to hang the filter.
When this batch is done we are going to pick the best one to clone - kinda makes me nervous - got a whole lot of studying to do yet on that subject. I can't take cuttings prior to flowering because I just don't have a place for them. I'm hoping to convalesce the mommas for a week or two after harvest then take some cuttings. Not sure yet.
Hawk-man, I thought of doing the closet/CFL thing but my concern is that the clones will be sitting under relatively crappy conditions for the 6 weeks or so the mothers are flowering. I am worried that I'll either kill them off or they will get stretched out or something while they are waiting to go back under the MH. Also, won't I have to still recover the mothers in veg state after cutting clones before I switch the lights over? Just some thoughts. I know this isn't the forum for this but I appreciate your insight.
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