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Frizzleman first Aeroponics Journal
    #313135 - 11/09/09 01:52 PM (15 years, 19 days ago)

Hello everyone this is my first attempt using Aeroponics. Please give me any and all input you have. I made my own system using some basic stuff at lowes/home depot. I will be ordering the beans, light, blower and carbon filter later on today.....any recommendations on a strain? The space is 6x3.














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Re: Frizzleman first Aeroponics Journal [Re: Frizzleman]
    #313137 - 11/09/09 01:56 PM (15 years, 19 days ago)

very nice man how much did you spend on that set-up?


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Re: Frizzleman first Aeroponics Journal [Re: elcharrosays]
    #313141 - 11/09/09 02:05 PM (15 years, 19 days ago)

I spent about....id say around 150 for the parts, including tools like a hole saw for 25 god damn dollars lol....and I still have to get the beans for about 70-100 and the light is going to be 200....so the entire thing will run around $500....but I think I should turn a profit plus its a load of fun

still stuck on what strain I should opt for


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Re: Frizzleman first Aeroponics Journal [Re: Frizzleman]
    #313142 - 11/09/09 02:07 PM (15 years, 19 days ago)

You ordering seeds online?


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Re: Frizzleman first Aeroponics Journal [Re: Cannaboid]
    #313145 - 11/09/09 02:15 PM (15 years, 19 days ago)

yep, feminized also....I ordered ak-47 a while back and grew out about 50 in soil....that worked out nicely....hopefully will be able to do that big in a system like this in the coming months....

I NEED strain recommendations for quality and yield, I would like to get at least 6 z's


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Re: Frizzleman first Aeroponics Journal [Re: Frizzleman]
    #313202 - 11/09/09 04:57 PM (15 years, 18 days ago)

nice work, and like 1/2 the price of buying it already made.


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Re: Frizzleman first Aeroponics Journal [Re: Dr. Siekadellyk]
    #313279 - 11/09/09 07:24 PM (15 years, 18 days ago)

And for the nutes?

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Re: Frizzleman first Aeroponics Journal [Re: SmOakland]
    #313367 - 11/09/09 09:08 PM (15 years, 18 days ago)

I am going to use the foxfarms nutrients big bud, grow big, tiger bloom. I ordered the light today....and the beans OG master kush...

cant wait to get these bad boys going....I will update as often as I can


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Re: Frizzleman first Aeroponics Journal [Re: Frizzleman]
    #319062 - 11/20/09 08:56 AM (15 years, 8 days ago)

Ok everybody I have a little update for you......I set up my 400 HPS MH digital air cooled along with a fan and carbon filter. I decided to go with Master Kush feminized from Nirvana. They are in wet paper towels now and will go into rapid rooter plugs before going into the system....more to follow.














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Re: Frizzleman first Aeroponics Journal [Re: Frizzleman]
    #319156 - 11/20/09 01:16 PM (15 years, 8 days ago)

Nice, I have some master kush as well, would like to grow it out sometime.

:popcorn:

I like the square hydro chambers you got there :thumbup:

Did you buy them or make them?  I'm sorry if these questions have been answered already.

Should be some dense heady nugs come harvest!

I'll be along for the ride.


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Re: Frizzleman first Aeroponics Journal [Re: Frizzleman]
    #319167 - 11/20/09 01:33 PM (15 years, 8 days ago)

I'm also curious about how you built this setup. Are those square chambers available at your average home improvement store in the plumbing section? also, what diameter are they? I'm assuming those are 3" net pots, so about 4" chambers?

Also, any chance of you getting a pic of the internal plumbing on the chambers/ a brand for your water pump?

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Re: Frizzleman first Aeroponics Journal [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #319183 - 11/20/09 02:11 PM (15 years, 8 days ago)

Hello Gentleman, they are 3 inch pots so the chambers are 4' by 4'. They are also 6 feet long. I am actually going to buy a new pump tomorrow the first one was not strong enough. As far as internal plumbing goes there is just a half inch pvc pipe running along the bottom of the chamber that has holes drilled in with ez clone 360 sprayers. I made the system myself with common stuff from home depot....the rails are called vinyl post usually used to make a fence..now they are going to be used to make something much much cooler lol......

also the last picture on my first post shows the inside plumbing while the sprayer is on, camera isnt best quality though


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Re: Frizzleman first Aeroponics Journal [Re: Frizzleman]
    #319256 - 11/20/09 04:51 PM (15 years, 7 days ago)

Forgive me but I don't know much about aeroponics....

is 4x4" big enough to support large plants or are you planning on just flowering while they're relatively tiny? I'm growing some pretty tall plants in 5 gallon containers, and I can definitely see the increase in growth rate that comes from a bunch of root space, but I guess with aeroponics it's a bit different because the nutrient solution is applied directly to the roots, rather than making the roots seek out the pore spaces for water etc.

Would a 4x4 grow plants up to 4 feet tall? or should I consider 6"x6"?


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Re: Frizzleman first Aeroponics Journal [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #319282 - 11/20/09 05:11 PM (15 years, 7 days ago)

When in doubt, go big or go home Harry...

Why not give em more space and oxygen if you can spare the extra space in your room?


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Re: Frizzleman first Aeroponics Journal [Re: Inverted]
    #319386 - 11/20/09 08:32 PM (15 years, 7 days ago)

4 by 4 is going to be more then enough.....just keep watching and you will see.....


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Re: Frizzleman first Aeroponics Journal [Re: Frizzleman]
    #319391 - 11/20/09 09:01 PM (15 years, 7 days ago)

what' your spacing between the different root chambers? it's looking like about 8 between the net pots so I'm going to assume roughly that distance between each row, so I guess I'm just curious what the advantage is for keeping the root space that size and having empty space between them instead of just using all the area possible....


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Re: Frizzleman first Aeroponics Journal [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #319462 - 11/21/09 08:45 AM (15 years, 7 days ago)

Well I have some spacing so I can allow them to get nice and bushy...and then prune for some nice big colas....

dont worry you will see, and after this im sure your going to make one..you dont get root locked like you do with soil, you can deliver nutes more efficiently and the plants seem to grow much much faster


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Re: Frizzleman first Aeroponics Journal [Re: Frizzleman]
    #319479 - 11/21/09 09:48 AM (15 years, 7 days ago)

do you have any issues with the spray nozzles clogging? I'm a fiend for using molasses during flowering but I feel like running sugar through all that plumbing might cause some issues.

sorry for all the questions, I'm a knowledge whore :wink:


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Re: Frizzleman first Aeroponics Journal [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #319487 - 11/21/09 10:21 AM (15 years, 7 days ago)

Nothing wrong with that, it allows all of us to see the information once it's posted, and I won't forget it after reading it once...


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Re: Frizzleman first Aeroponics Journal [Re: Inverted]
    #319491 - 11/21/09 11:05 AM (15 years, 7 days ago)

i had some of the same questions reading through this.  I've got a couple of fears that I will keep an eye on while you work this thing out.  It looks great!  My fears are root restriction and possible clogging of the sprayers (w/e they're called).  Good luck!  Sounds like a good strain.  i guess we'll find out.  :cheers:  and welcome to the Growery!

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maybe if there was a way you could open the tubes to check and move the roots to one side or the other of the tube.  Or perhaps slots in the top that can be removed for access inside. 


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Re: Frizzleman first Aeroponics Journal [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #320410 - 11/23/09 10:29 AM (15 years, 5 days ago)

Clogging im not really worried about much. I can reposition the roots away from the sprayers by just taking out the net cups which you can see in one of the pics. There will be no root restriction at all since they can grow the entire length of the tubes. I attached some pictures to show you some of the plumbing. I have a nice pump that is about 190 gph at a high PSI for great spray.









Please stop me if im getting to picture happy.....I think you will apericate that more during the actual plants phase.....Plant pics will be within 5-7 days...


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Re: Frizzleman first Aeroponics Journal [Re: Frizzleman]
    #320418 - 11/23/09 11:19 AM (15 years, 5 days ago)

the more pictures the better!

what's your rule of thumb on calculating GPH rates for different size setups?


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Re: Frizzleman first Aeroponics Journal [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #320424 - 11/23/09 11:59 AM (15 years, 5 days ago)

Well to tell you the truth I have no rules at all when it comes to it. I went to my local hydro store and they told me which pump to get. They had a 400gph pump that I was looking at which they told me would not work because of the low PSI. So I suppose its not how much it can push but how hard.

And the good pics will come, im more excited then you are about it trust me.


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Re: Frizzleman first Aeroponics Journal [Re: Frizzleman]
    #325938 - 12/03/09 10:07 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Hello Everybody. Thought I would give you a little update. I planted all 12 of the Fem seeds and 8 of them took well so it looks like im going to have 4 empty pots. (Not to big of a deal since im going to go with clones next time). Here are some pics of the ladies. Enjoy!







I am thinking they will be ready for the system with about half strength nutes in another week. What do you think?


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    #325963 - 12/03/09 11:17 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Wow! Awesome setup. I have been looking for those damn fence rails at my local HD for years, they never seem to have them around here. Do you have your sprayer/pump filtered to prevent nozzle clogging? I've been told that is a huge concern with aero.


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    #325969 - 12/03/09 11:31 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Yea there is a filter on the pump itself.....

I actually didnt get the post from HD I got it from lowes. HD didnt have them around here either


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    #331160 - 12/14/09 08:34 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Its that time again, for an update. Put them in the system 2 days ago so now there are on a veg cycle of 16 on and 6 off. I am giving them half strength nutes for now and will probably switch to full in a week or two. I am using Fox farms grow big specifically for Hydro systems so hopefully we get some good results. Growth in the last 10 days seems to have been very nice. Temps are at 88 as seen in the pic which may be a little bit on the high side but I will have to deal with it. Enjoy the pics and please leave some comments.







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Re: Frizzleman first Aeroponics Journal [Re: Frizzleman]
    #331182 - 12/14/09 10:18 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Looking very nice so far man! keep it up :smile:

did you mean to say that your light cycle is 16 on and 6 off? did you mean 8 off, or 18/6?


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Re: Frizzleman first Aeroponics Journal [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #331183 - 12/14/09 10:27 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

yep sorry about that, meant 18 and 6.....

either way its very exciting stuff lol


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    #331185 - 12/14/09 10:46 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

great start man! I like how neat and tidy your area looks.:thumbup:


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    #335005 - 12/22/09 09:33 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Its that time again for an update, these were taken yesterday which marks one week from the last updated picture. As you can see the growth is very fast and the plants are very healthy, I am very very pleased so far, also please note that these are only on half strength nutes (will be going full in a few days).





And here are some nice shots of the root development





I am assuming these are going to be make some sweet ass clones and buds!


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    #335007 - 12/22/09 09:39 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Very Very Nice!


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    #335130 - 12/22/09 03:38 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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is 4x4" big enough to support large plants



Yes this setup will support 4-5ft. plants with no problem. This is actually Stinkbuds setup which was featured in HighTimes a few months back. Frizzle just altered the height and shape. I'm guessing due to the size and shape of his room. And you guys should have no problem running molasses through the system as I have used molasses in mine in a few runs.


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    #335132 - 12/22/09 03:39 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Oh yeah things are looking very good. You wonty be dissapointed with SinkBuds setup. How long and how often do you have your pump running?


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    #335230 - 12/22/09 06:08 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Actually this is my setup, no idea who stinkbud is. I just took the aeroflo and made it how I wanted. I have the pump on 24/7 as I was advised to do by my hydro shop and it is working quite nicely. I strongly recommend this system to everybody!


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    #335270 - 12/22/09 08:20 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Oh I didnt know it was "Your" setup it just looks really close to the setup here with a different bottom and bunch of duct tape: http://www.growery.org/forums/download.php?Number=195143


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    #335319 - 12/22/09 09:23 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I only meant that I did not copy it, i'm not the only one that has ever built one. And dont talk crap about duct tape, its holds most of the world together. Also no reason to call it somebody's setup considering these were originally designed by NASA. Just relax, enjoy my shit, and maybe have a smoke when its finished.



Which reminds me, when this is finished I would like everybody to join me on here and take a puff in celebration.


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Re: Frizzleman first Aeroponics Journal [Re: Frizzleman]
    #335328 - 12/22/09 09:31 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I'll be here for sure man by the way things are looking pretty sweet man. Keep up the good work.

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    #335360 - 12/22/09 10:30 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I wasn't dissing your setup, It just looked very similar to the article in HighTimes and on the board that StinkBud gave the tutorial on. I said your grow was looking good. And if duct tape works for you then keep using it. Do what works. Afterall the final product is what matters.


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    #335596 - 12/23/09 01:51 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

the duct tape is actually only holding on a piece of plastic that allows the water to run down a bit instead of free falling into the res, it cut down on the noise a LOT.


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    #338488 - 01/01/10 01:14 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Hello my friends. Can somebody tell me what they feel the best PPM would be? Or what you have experienced the best would be.......Here are some pics also, please comment











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    #338490 - 01/01/10 01:25 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I wouldn't venture too far above 1200 unless you're sure your plants are heavy feeders.  From the looks of it I'd say your plants are ready to be fed per the "heavy feeding" instructions on your bottle(s).


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Re: Frizzleman first Aeroponics Journal [Re: coda]
    #340104 - 01/04/10 04:52 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I am a bit worried that water is not getting to all of the roots, Is the water level supposed to be right below the pots? I just raised it a bit now, before I was just letting it flow right out.


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Re: Frizzleman first Aeroponics Journal [Re: Frizzleman]
    #340893 - 01/05/10 04:53 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I'm not really sure to be honest, but I would say that your plants look absolutely amazing, so you probably shouldn't really be worrying


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    #341085 - 01/05/10 06:52 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Sweet jumping jebus on a pogo stick those look nice.

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    #341384 - 01/06/10 12:00 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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Sweet jumping jebus on a pogo stick those look nice.




This.

And flower those things man!  they are going to get MASSIVE!


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    #341450 - 01/06/10 07:36 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Do you think its time to start flowering? How much more will they grow while they are flowering? Its an 8 week flowering time for these babies.


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    #341486 - 01/06/10 11:04 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Also what about pruning? Should I prune all of the bottoms so I could get some nice tops?


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    #341489 - 01/06/10 11:15 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

those will at least double in size while flowering, but likely a bit more.

rather than pruning the bottoms I would try to direct the branches to grow outward so that they get full light and produce healthy nugs. you still have some space between your plants which to me translates as lost light.


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Re: Frizzleman first Aeroponics Journal [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #341495 - 01/06/10 11:25 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

and I also had another question for you. I've been heavily considering building an aero system for my next grow. I'm a huge fucking nerd so it just kinda makes sense to build something state of the art and nifty like this. my hobbies are always pretty weird :lol:

anyhow, what's the advantage of growing your plants in the tubes and draining the solution into a resevoir vs a system like this one where the plants entire roots dangle in the solution?




Also, how often do you read your TDS/pH with this system?  I've pretty much got it down as far as concerns in solid medium are concerned so aeroponic is naturally very interesting, but I don't want to be investing a couple hundred dollars on meters of various kinds...


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    #341524 - 01/06/10 11:55 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I dont see the video right now because im at work, however I found that when I made the water deeper my plants got droopy, they didnt like the deeper water. Also I believe the main reason aero is better is because of the aeration the roots receive. The misters super oxygenate the water and as you can see they like them. I bought a ph and a tds meter and I check everyday, they ran me 20 bucks each but they arent really that good.

On my babies I really want to get about 1 oz off of each of them to make this whole thing worth while, so I want to let them get a bit bigger unless you think im safe to go ahead and flower now. ill have the tops trained to fill in all the holes.


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    #341527 - 01/06/10 12:06 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I would be STUNNED if you got less than an ounce from each of those. you'll be fine letting them get a bit bigger, but I had a plant my last round about twice the size of those and it yielded 6+ ounces on the one plant.

In the video she just had a rubbermaid tub with aeroponic misters, but instead of draining to a separate reservoir all the nutes are contained at the bottom of the tub and just pumped up to the misters via PVC.


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    #341539 - 01/06/10 12:50 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

one z is all I care about, and what you describe sounds like a cloner....or a big ass cloner lol......im thinking that if the pump is inside it will destroy roots after they get to be long. Or if the res and root chamber are seperated im thinking the roots may have limited space, or the plants may have limited space.....

I just like my setup lol its easy to customize....

Im going to let these guys go for about another week and then ill start to flower


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Re: Frizzleman first Aeroponics Journal [Re: Frizzleman]
    #341544 - 01/06/10 01:07 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

you're exactly right. I was just thinking of building a huge cloner and then growing the plants in it for their entire lives.
you make some good points about how it could go wrong though.... I never even though about roots getting caught in the pump.


I'm just basically looking for some sort of automated watering system so that I can leave town and still have my plants be fine without relying on my retarded roommates to feed my babies. I figure if i'm investing in a pump already for an ebb and flow or drip system why not invest in a little extra to go aero?


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    #341547 - 01/06/10 01:13 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

the real cost is the light and the pump, everything else is really cheap, the pvc was like a 3 dollars and the tubes were like 7 each....

I had an ez cloner and the clones roots actually got sucked into the pump because of how long they got.....I change this res every week or so and I constantly need to put more water in, it gets down to the pump level about every 3-5 days. They drink a lot so you should still have somebody keep an eye out.

Mine already smell so god damn good I can not wait for the final product. And I WISH I had the room to do a 50-100 site system.


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    #341571 - 01/06/10 01:33 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

well I've already got two 600W with air cooled hoods so I'm set as far as the room goes, I'm just trying to figure out a more efficient way to do things. I'm sick of mixing up 4 gallons of nutrients every single day and hand watering 5-gallon hempy buckets. I'll still need someone to look after them and change the res once a week but that's way easier than telling my roommates how to mix up all those nutes every day etc etc.


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    #341591 - 01/06/10 02:05 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I agree! I did a 50 plant grow once in soil and it was such a huge pain in the ass man. I would love to get this sucker going with 50. I read a log that a guy got 3lbs and he said he would have gotten 5 if he did something different....dont really remember. But that is damn good


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    #341596 - 01/06/10 02:14 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

fucking rad. sorry to hijack your thread so hardcore but you're a very helpful man.

expect numerous pm's in the future :lol: I'm thinking about heading to Home Depot today and building myself a little trial cloner in one of those 5-gallon orange buckets


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    #341604 - 01/06/10 02:34 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Yea sounds good, And please post as much as you want, I want an active thread.


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    #343582 - 01/08/10 07:53 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

so I was just reading somewhere that you have to flower plants right from clone with an aero system to prevent the roots from clogging the drain towards the end of flowering. have you grown with this style setup before? if so, have you noticed this as an issue?


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    #343614 - 01/08/10 08:39 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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so I was just reading somewhere that you have to flower plants right from clone with an aero system to prevent the roots from clogging the drain towards the end of flowering. have you grown with this style setup before? if so, have you noticed this as an issue?



For my system that has not been an issue, but I have trimmed the roots massively. Just hack what is clogging, and the plants should be fine.

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    #343650 - 01/08/10 09:59 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

:eek: Why on earth would you ever hack at the roots?!? that's the worst thing you can do to a plant!


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    #343656 - 01/08/10 10:11 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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:eek: Why on earth would you ever hack at the roots?!? that's the worst thing you can do to a plant!



To save them.

Exapmle.

In my current set up, my second cycle the plats out grew my set up.

They streaked and streaked during bloom. To the point there was no room, and the crop would be loss.

I took each one and had to hack the roots and plant them in soil.

To my surprise I did not loose one and they fucking loved the out doors.

I am just saying, by the time you are blooming and you have a massive root growth you probably can get away with a lot without the plant dying.

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Re: Frizzleman first Aeroponics Journal [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #343657 - 01/08/10 10:13 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Because they're clogging the drains obviously.

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    #343664 - 01/08/10 10:44 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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Because they're clogging the drains obviously.



And I think by the point they are clogging you'll be more then fine to hack away without fear of damage.

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Re: Frizzleman first Aeroponics Journal [Re: snaggletooth]
    #343683 - 01/08/10 11:17 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

more than fine?!  to imply that it's beneficial in some way?  the only reason it is beneficial is because it may prevent the plants ultimate death with clogged spouts.  cutting roots ime has never beeen an option annd never will be.  that's unfortunate.  I hope the OP's still do really well though.


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    #343693 - 01/08/10 11:27 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

well how big were this plants in question? how large was your aero system? can you explain more about the situation so I can see if it's something I should be concerned with? I'm a fan of larger plants so this is something I really want to be informed about.


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    #343896 - 01/09/10 07:26 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

this is my first grow with an Aero sytem but I can tell you that my drain is not the same as the ones that are on the actual store bought system so I am not to worried.


Here are a few pics to tide you over, Please note Halo 3 (good choice) for size comparison, they are not really that tall yes. Im going to get the flowering shit today and prune up the bottoms and get ready to flower in the next week







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    #343899 - 01/09/10 07:33 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Also is it safe to post pictures on here? Anybody ever hear any bad stories?


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    #343929 - 01/09/10 09:07 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

you're fine with the pictures.  To make them safer just don't share them with the public (there's an option for letting anyone view your photo journal).

As for chopping roots, it is definitely a method of last resort.  While it can have its benefits it is also an extremely dangerous practice.  Chop too much, or cause too much stress, and you'll kill your plant.

That being said I've seen a lot of people take root bound plants, hack off a bunch of roots, and repot them in new soil with no problems.    It's all in how you do it and how much you take off.


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    #343975 - 01/09/10 10:42 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

beautiful fucking plants friz.

would you care to take a picture of your drain setup? and possibly the roots inside the tube also so I can get a feel for how it looks? I'm planning on growing my plants at least as big as yours before I start to flower so this journal is fantastic


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    #344234 - 01/09/10 07:05 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Here you go buddy, Just pruned these babies up, the drain is simple, its just free flowing.







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    #344238 - 01/09/10 07:12 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

oh so there's really no chance of those clogging the drain because there isn't really a drain lol.
it looks like the roots are already to the end of your chamber though, what happens then? do they just grow all the way down into the res?


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    #344242 - 01/09/10 07:18 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

No I have been pushing them back in pretty often, and its cool to see how much they grow every day, which is at least 4-5 inches. When they get really big ill just put a mesh screen there.

Bought the flowering goodies and will start in a week or so, they are not a foot yet so I would like them to be bigger, cant wait to see how much I get and how sweet it is.


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    #348008 - 01/14/10 10:47 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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    #348132 - 01/15/10 11:25 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Harry my friend I cannot give an update today. Had something going on and had to move my babies for a day...I will update tomorrow though..

Question for you, when do you think I should start flowering? They are about a foot tall right now, I really want to get at least an 0 off of each so you think I should wait another week?


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    #348138 - 01/15/10 11:45 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

dude you're already WAY past an ounce each. how big is the light again, 400W? I'd already expect close to 2 ounces from each plant....

here's what my last ladies looked like on day 1 of 12/12, about 14-16" tall.



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    #348236 - 01/15/10 01:05 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

ok ill take your word for it, im going to start to flower this weekend, if I dont get a z im going to blame it all on you. lol.


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    #348241 - 01/15/10 01:17 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

haha well if you don't have a specific harvest date in mind why not veg them another week or two and really get some fierce yield?

Do you have your light on a mover? 3ft is easy for a 400W to cover, but that 6ft length might make for some really fluffy nugs on the edges of your garden


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    #348256 - 01/15/10 01:42 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Nah they are like 4 feet, I wasn't using a few pots so I cut it to make the sprayers stronger, you will see in the update..... I figured those spots wouldn't be worth it because of the light and the closet slopes downward. The ones I have in their now can have quite a bit of room for growth, probably around 5 feet or so, maybe ill veg for another week and then start so I can get as much as possible.....not to worried about an exact date.

Love those plants you had also, they looked very very good. Something for me to aim for.


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    #348257 - 01/15/10 01:47 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

thanks man, I appreciate that. did you get to see the whole grow log? they looked good in veg but the finished bud even surprised me :lol:

By the way your plants looked in the last update I think you're well on your way to achieving your goal :thumbup:


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    #348269 - 01/15/10 02:25 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

good, thats all I was hoping for, dare to hope for even a bit more, I cant believe how your plants looked, nothing but bud, just beautiful


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    #348878 - 01/16/10 09:25 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Hey Harry I have a question that I have been looking all over to answer but with no luck.....I have some yellowing leaves on the bottom of the plants and brown spots, also the very tips of the leaves are yellow and brown, but I mean the very very tips, to small to even see in a pic. I will post a pic of the spots soon. I have heard it is nute burn, I heard not enough nutes etc...etc...

Currently the PH is 5.8-6.3 and nutes around 500-550....I cant get a good estimate on PPM either, I mean I put in fox farms recommendation of 3 TSP per gallon and they looked a bit wilted, maybe because the light was just about to go off? Do you think PPM should be higher, Nute deficenty and not nute burn? I thought it couldnt be nute burn because the PPMs are so low but to tell you the truth with AERO I have no idea.

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Re: Frizzleman first Aeroponics Journal [Re: Frizzleman]
    #348932 - 01/17/10 12:18 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

nevermind......I just found that my god damn ph meter was off by .7 so I was maintaining at 5.1 instead of 5.8 which is what probably did it, they are fine though


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    #350090 - 01/19/10 09:35 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Ok now here is the update, I took these yesterday and today marks day 1 of flowering, lets all hope that everything goes well and it is all worth the time, money and effort. I put a cd case in again for comparison and took a nice picture of my fav plant. They are just about 13-14 inches high now so hopefully they will double in size.







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    #350152 - 01/19/10 12:34 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

dude looks freakin' gorgeous. I think you're going to be very surprised by the yield. judging by how fast these babies have grown during veg they're going to crank out some serious nugs.

btw, check out what I made yesterday

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dont worry you will see, and after this im sure your going to make one..







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    #350156 - 01/19/10 12:48 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Wow... I think you are going to be blown away by how well those are going to produce...

Fuck I'm jealous of your setup.  Everything looks perfect except a little bit of heat stress I noticed but it's not severe by any means and I would just say do what you have been doing.

You do realize you are probably going to score 1.5-2 Lbs from this right?  :sun:

Edit, also you may want to bump up the nutes one last time before flowering kicks in, you seem to have a slight N def. but not too much because you want the plant to get a boost of flowering nutes too so maybe 1/2 and 1/2 of each, cuz that deficiency is going to get exponentially worse as flowering progresses.  Looks awesome though seriously.


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    #350165 - 01/19/10 01:07 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

1.5-2? No way......lol I was thinking like 5-6 oz......If I get anywhere near a P I would be fucking happy as all shit. I know there is a deficiency thats because I didnt realize I had to calibrate my meter every time I use it lol so had a PH problem. That is all set now though.


Harry! Im very very glad to see you using that set-up. You HAVE to link me to your journal if you are doing one. I see you have it a bit different than mine, which is great. Its so nicely customizeable.


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    #352730 - 01/24/10 04:53 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Some bad news......its getting harder to take pictures......

Im trying to take the same angled shots but the plants are getting pretty damn big now so they may not look at good......Im sure that will be alright once we get some bud shots....so this is day 6 of flowering



This will be my last comparison shot with a game cover, as you can see its not much for comparison......





I have a measuring tape and found that they are growing from 1-2 inches every day, very very fast growth, I started to flower at 13 and they are already at 20 in only 6 days. Hopefully they wont get to big and unmanageable. Wish me luck!


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    #352766 - 01/24/10 07:13 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

just dialed in on this grow, looks great.

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    #354175 - 01/27/10 02:52 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

nothing wrong with that.....the growth is so fast its actually worrying me....how long do the plants keep stretching? IE how many weeks before they dont get any taller......they are 23 now and I started flowering at 13 only 9 days ago.....I hope they dont get all that much bigger....after all they are indica


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    #354287 - 01/27/10 07:55 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

They could keep stretching for another 3 weeks, or they could slow down after only 2.  It's very strain dependent.  That's why I was rushing you to flower a while ago, because plants can easily get too big and out of control.

I think it'll be pretty crowded for you, but nothing you can't manage with some spare time and some string.

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    #354313 - 01/27/10 08:59 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

yeah I'd say another week or two at the most of stretching. being indica they're probably almost done. It'll get crowded but that's just their way of not wasting space :wink:

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    #354444 - 01/28/10 07:13 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

well I dont want to get to optomistic but I am pretty sure that one z per is an achievable goal...lol

I expected them to double in size but not in 7 days....lol but I think I will be ok, If I managed 2 oz per plant I would be the happiest guy in the world


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    #354612 - 01/28/10 05:04 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Well I'll be the first to put it in writing that you will most definitely hit that mark unless something catastrophic occurs. :lol:

I only wish I had the room for 8 large ladies like that.

I'm forced to either flower after only mere weeks of vegging, or I have to LST the hell out of my plants.  Let's hope I can get 1oz per plant :wink:


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    #354613 - 01/28/10 05:06 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

so how much do you have to adjust the pH on this system now? I know you said you check it daily, but are you actually doing any adjusting or just making sure nothing's gone wrong? also, do you have an air stone or anything? Reservoir chiller? My plants in my aero system look good, but not nearly as insanely good as yours do... I'm wondering what the trick is....


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    #354687 - 01/28/10 07:27 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

what nutes are you using harry? I am using fox farm. I would say I have to adjust my PH every other day and they drink lots of water. Dont forget these plants are a month old now, give yours a bit to get use to the system and I bet you will have some really nice growth....I will be watching your grow so stay updated.

For some reason my plants really smell, I mean smell like shit, lol I think its because of the nutes, everytime I put in new nutes they smell bad like a purto rican snuck into my house and shit in my closet.

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    #356513 - 02/01/10 05:36 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Hello everybody here is my second update while flowering. It has been a total of 14 days so far. I borrowed a digital camera so the pictures are a little bit better in quality although the HPS makes the pictures a little bit blurred. I am going to try and buy a very high quality camera soon.

Enjoy!










By the time the second month of flowering comes around I imagine these babies are going to be all bud, and the buds are going to be pretty large...

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    #356514 - 02/01/10 05:44 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Everything looks perfect except for the heat stress signs.

Notice the margins of your leaves are curling upward, that is a clear sign that the light is either too close or the ambient temp is too high 90+.


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    #356536 - 02/01/10 06:23 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Yes sir...I noticed that. I had the light about an inch away, I moved it to a foot or 2 away so they should be good now


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    #356771 - 02/02/10 09:03 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

That stem is fat as fuck man congrats.:thumbup:

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    #356803 - 02/02/10 12:36 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I like big trunks

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    #356805 - 02/02/10 12:41 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

lol me too. it's funny, when I first started growing I was all about how cool the flowers look, but after I learned more about plant physiology (and not just for weed, in all my biology classes) I get far more turned on nowadays by healthy roots and fat stems. :lol:

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    #356829 - 02/02/10 02:01 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I cant even pick them up anymore because the roots are very anchored, but if roots turn you on ill be sure to post pics when its harvest time


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    #360180 - 02/08/10 06:16 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Ok then here is another update for everybody,the plants are 3 weeks into flowering today. Had some pretty good heat stress going on so I raised the light a final time pretty much all the way to the top. As you can see the plants are now full into bud production lets hope that they stay that way......

keep your fingers crossed for me to get 2 per plant....

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    #360188 - 02/08/10 06:30 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Looks good.  They didn't branch out as much as I thought they would.  Stretching should be coming to an end for you now.  Looks like bud production is off to a nice start.  I told you they would get big on you!!!

I'd like to see a shot w/ the flash when the HPS is off.  It's hard to guage a plants health in that lighting.  I'm thinking you'll probably get around 2 per.


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    #360198 - 02/08/10 06:39 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

2 per would make me a VERY happy man, how thick do the buds get anyway? When do they put on the most weight? Im not home during the day so those pics you want might have to wait until next weekend.


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    #360201 - 02/08/10 06:46 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

their just getting started with flower production my man. now that the stretch is done pretty much ALL the energy they were using to grow taller and wider is going into flowers and resin. in the next 4-6 weeks you're really going to see these babies blow up. In that first picture you posted, check out the main stalk right in the center of the frame. right now it's got about 8 little individual budsites, but as the grow progresses you'll see those all meld together as they get bigger into one long nug. that's how you end up with these;




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    #360210 - 02/08/10 06:58 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks Harry, your much more of an expert grower than I am. I just hope to get a good yield, I am going to putting a down payment on a house in a few months and then ill start a 60-120 site system.....

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    #360261 - 02/08/10 07:39 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I would have a boner from start to finish :eek:

please tell me you live in colorado so I can visit you and frolick in your meadow of ganja


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    #360652 - 02/09/10 09:36 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

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2 per would make me a VERY happy man, how thick do the buds get anyway? When do they put on the most weight? Im not home during the day so those pics you want might have to wait until next weekend.




Look towards the very end to find the weight you desire. I believe that 25% of the weight is put on in the final 2 weeks. Do you have a 30x microscope or jeweler's lens? If you want to get the optimal weight without sacrificing headhigh, def. get one of those.

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    #361923 - 02/10/10 07:25 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Just joined and you have caught my eye already, lookin' beautiful. I see absolutely no reason why you can't consider 2 O's a plant minimum yield at this point. You would have to really screw up to not get that.


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    #361950 - 02/10/10 08:14 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

they look much better than the pictures show, with the HPS on its hard to take pictures that auto focus based on light conditions. I need to get a higher quality camera so you can see everything that I do.

Id like to thank everybody for all of the posts and information. For my first aerogro I could not have hoped for more. Lets hope that this continues all the way through harvest.

Does anybody want to recommend a strain for my next go around? Im going to start the next one literally right after this one, and ill just keep on going for a few journals so I can have a reference while I really tune this system in.


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    #364175 - 02/14/10 05:28 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

So I have a question for everyone and anyone who wants to answer. I have had my PH stable at 5.8-6.3 but for some reason my PPM keeps rising. It's only about 1000 ppm and every day it increases by 20-50. Shouldn't it be decreasing since it is a relatively low in the first place?


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    #364182 - 02/14/10 06:05 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

well first 1000ppm is pretty much considered a full strength feeding for heavy-consuming plants. I wouldn't recommend bumping it up too much more than that. But your ppm is rising because your plants are transpiring very heavily in your warm room. they're much bigger now and all that leaf surface area means more water getting evaporated from the stomata. it's nothing to worry about, they're just using more water than nutes at this point.


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    #364186 - 02/14/10 06:19 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Ok cool man, Thanks harry, you the shit


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    #364921 - 02/15/10 08:07 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Alright everybody time for my weekly update. I think they are looking very nice for only 4 weeks into flowering! 4 weeks today that is, I expect them to get really really fat by the time I harvest, and I expect you all to assure me of that....

I am aiming for a P, if I dont manage a P this time im going to convert another closet (not as big) for another few plants so I can reach my pound mark. Enjoy the pics and leave me plenty of comments for the AM








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    #367214 - 02/18/10 09:32 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

no comments? You guys are killin me!


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    #367218 - 02/18/10 09:37 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Plants are really starting to swell now. About how much longer until you harvest?

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    #367220 - 02/18/10 09:39 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

They don't talk to me either, looks like they are getting really close. how much more time till i can get the on the right?


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    #367225 - 02/18/10 10:01 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

They actually aren't even that close, these are only 4 weeks into flowering, they have another 4 weeks to go yet. I hope that they get really really fat, I want a nice yield.... I dont know hot to really calculate yield based on looking at them but I would say they have close to a z on each now.


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    #367232 - 02/18/10 10:23 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

cool,  you should be cutting around the time I do my 60 day mark is March 18th but It's looking like a pretty strong sativa so I might let it go another week or two past that we'll have to see.

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    #367243 - 02/18/10 10:42 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah man, im hoping that they really beef up in the next 4 weeks, I need a decent harvest...dont we all....

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    #367257 - 02/18/10 11:11 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)



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    #367351 - 02/18/10 02:26 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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They actually aren't even that close, these are only 4 weeks into flowering, they have another 4 weeks to go yet. I hope that they get really really fat, I want a nice yield.... I dont know hot to really calculate yield based on looking at them but I would say they have close to a z on each now.




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    #367366 - 02/18/10 02:45 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

yes you did, but I have bad luck man, I would not be surprised if they just stopped right were they are lol


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    #367400 - 02/18/10 03:21 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Dealing with those strains I don't think you are going to have that problem.

Just don't let them get stressed or locked out in those last 4 weeks and you'll be cutting some damn nice colas.  I figure that each Major branch will have about 3-5 grams on it, and the top cola anywhere from 7-14 grams.  That's how I do my calculations, Usually I am very close.

Looks pretty superb though man, other than the heat stress which I keep reminding you... lol.  Just sayin', stress = small yields

But for 4 weeks in your nugs look FAT AS HELL.  No joking.  I think you'll be juuuuussssst fine.  :thumbup:


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    #367493 - 02/18/10 06:32 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I put another duct fan in to combat the heat and its already looking great....hopefully these babies get nice and big I really want a big yield


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    #367496 - 02/18/10 06:33 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I'm telling you man, Gravity. humboldt, gravity. nuff said


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    #367498 - 02/18/10 06:35 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I hear ya harry....man I love this system, you should def give it another go at some point


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    #367502 - 02/18/10 06:39 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

oh I'm planning on it :yesnod:


possibly outdoors with some veggies this summer. sounds kinda cool to me :grin:


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    #367583 - 02/18/10 07:34 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

yeah man that would be sweet, im going to add another 4 plant system with another 400w light, so ill have 12 plants going. I should be able to confidentially say ill get 12 zs


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    #370815 - 02/22/10 04:48 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Another weekly update my friends.









Working on getting a better camera guys, hopefully by the next update I will have it for you. They seem to be getting pretty fat. Lets hope for my sake (and the sake of future journals) that they continue.


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    #370818 - 02/22/10 04:57 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

looks like you might be over feeding them a tad. I'd suggest backing off the nutes just a bit... you want them to starve a little towards the end of their life. it mimics the natural environment better because in soil most of the nutrients have been consumed by fall so the plant is naturally geared towards using it's internal reserves


still fat as shit though, I'm thinking you're already at your 1oz goal


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    #370845 - 02/22/10 05:21 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

I backed off the nutes just a bit actually. I will keep them around 700-800, sound good? 3 more weeks to go !


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    #370847 - 02/22/10 05:21 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

hmm if you only have 3 weeks left I'd back off even more than that.  they should be getting basically no nitrogen whatsoever at this point


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Re: Frizzleman first Aeroponics Journal [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #370889 - 02/22/10 06:23 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

how low should i go?


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    #370897 - 02/22/10 06:29 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

500-600 is what I hear generally. you want to see some of the older leaves starting to yellow by next week.

you can keep pumping them full of nutes if you want and your yields will improve, but the taste  of the smoke will be considerably worse IME


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    #370908 - 02/22/10 06:35 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

ok then sounds good....

im planning for sometime in the near future, (few months) I am going to build a 60 site and use 2 1k lights. cant wait for that one


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    #370912 - 02/22/10 06:36 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

wow shit mang that'll be incredible.

you should go from clones with that one I say


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    #370930 - 02/22/10 06:44 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Those colas look fat as fuck already, wow!

What day of 12/12 are you on did you say!?  They do look overfed, and the heat stress from before is noticeable, but those ladies are going to pump out the weight from the looks of it.  You must be doing something right to have donkey dicks like that already.


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    #370952 - 02/22/10 07:00 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

lmao thanks man, yeah im going to slow down a bit on feeding my babies, and today marks exactly 5 weeks, got another full 3 weeks to go....I would say they are at about an oz each now.....I hear they put on most of their weight towards the final weeks....true?


And Harry that probably wont happen for another 3-6 months. I plan on getting all the way up to 120 site with 4 1k watt lights. I cant wait for that man.....but I will def be sure to keep you in the loop. Ill have another similar journal to this one again, maybe twice.

I have been looking into dosers for ph and nutes that automatically top off the system with nutes, water and ph up and down. I will probably use that system for the big grow. Just make sure you stay with me for the next 6 months.


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    #375402 - 02/28/10 05:50 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Hey guys I just bought an Iphone so im going to be able to take some better pictures, yay!  Should be here by tuesday. I have been looking into UFO 90W Led lights that are supposed to put out as much light as a 400hps. They are expensive but since they put out pretty much no heat and are only 90 watts im considering buying 3 of them for my other closet. If anybody has heard anything about these please let me know. Im thinking that im going to use them in one closet and the hps that I use now for my next grow......what do you think?


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    #375568 - 02/28/10 07:58 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Not as good in my opinion. LED's have quite the potential but you'll be very disappointed by yield as they lack the intensity of a full sized bulb. Great for vegging though from what I've seen


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    #375608 - 02/28/10 08:39 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Have you used them? I keep reading about them a lot and all of the marijuana magazines are saying that they actually experience increase in yield..


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    #375624 - 02/28/10 08:55 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

well of course the magazines say that, they're trying to sell a product to make money.  From reading what real people say about real experiences they're just not up to snuff. a couple grows have been done on here (by a user named agmotes), search those out and look at how small his nugs are. very high quality, but the biggest bud he grew was maybe 3 grams :shrug:


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    #375633 - 02/28/10 09:04 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

hmmm yeah I see, damnit, I live where electric is included so I thought it would be nice to have some less usage.....I want to add another 400 but do you think 800 is to much? I dont want questions coming my was, the apartments dont have seperate meters ( I dont think ).

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    #376354 - 03/01/10 04:54 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

FurrowedBrow pulled off an 800w grow, but they got suspicious.  Do you have a way to remove odor at all?

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    #376388 - 03/01/10 05:45 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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FurrowedBrow pulled off an 800w grow, but they got suspicious.  Do you have a way to remove odor at all?

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    #376397 - 03/01/10 06:31 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

I think if you can eliminate odor, and eliminate vampire energy usage then yeah. If you can make it to where your not running so much electricity and usually only the light plus a computer or something then they won't get suspicious.

I live where utilities are included in the rent and the only time the landlord ever emailed me about the power was when I first moved in and kept flipping the breakers because I had a lot plugged in and did not know my limits, it was middle winter and we had two 1400w heaters running full blast because there are lots of holes in the house where cold air can enter and there is no thermostat in our unit. Also I didn't know that I only had to reset the breaker that flipped not the whole house, so I'm sure one of my other neighbors emailed him about me turning off all the electricity and turning it back on again when I first moved in. Even then though he asked me if I wanted him to install another breaker to divert some power to another source lol. I told him no and I could fix the problem myself. My landlord is like me we like to have the least amount of contact possible as long as he gets the check every month.

I live in a very old house too. I realize that I can have the two heaters running full blast, a TV on and a computer before I plug in something else and the breaker flips. I put one of my heaters on the downstairs breaker and right now upstairs its just a 400w HPS and my computer and that's it so if I really wanted to I could fit another 400w HID in my house on the upstairs breaker where my tent is.

I'm just explaining this because it might have relevance to your place. Also the "maintenance" guy lives in the back. I live at a house where its split into 3 units. In all honesty most landlords or owners see and speak dollar signs, so as long as your not running 2 1000w constantly I think your fine.

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    #377172 - 03/02/10 05:11 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

I have no odor problems my friends, I have a carbon filter which scrubs out everything, ok now here are some picture updates.








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    #377186 - 03/02/10 05:25 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

wow.... you nute burned the shit out of them huh?

well you're already at your 1 ounce per plant goal I'd say, nothing to do now but sit back and count the increase from here until harvest :borat:


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    #377210 - 03/02/10 06:01 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

yeah got a lil bit of a burn going on, no biggie, ppms are at 400 now and will go to 0 monday for the wek flush before harvest. Got 6 plants so hoping for 6 oz.


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    #377503 - 03/02/10 11:07 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Heh, I grew plants of similar size before flipping to 12/12, I have 5 and am hoping for 3 oz.  (75-80g)

How are the buds looking?  Dense?  Good structure?  Trichome coverage?


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    #377605 - 03/03/10 07:02 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah they are looking really good, its to bad that I dont that much light penetration though, the bottoms are pretty bare. My next grow will be this strain again (mastker kush) and some white widow in a different closet. Im getting pretty use to this system so I should be able to keep increasing my yield......only 2 weeks to go!


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    #377622 - 03/03/10 08:04 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

you should try to track down a good camera and get some closeups for us. Some trich porn is where it's at :wink:


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    #377633 - 03/03/10 08:23 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

I hear ya man, I will try to find a really good one....

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    #377657 - 03/03/10 09:43 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

My Nikon Coolpix L16 can take great closeup shots, it just depends on how well you hold the camera. I'm going to get a Nikon Coolpix L100 soon. Its cheap but still quality.

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    #377660 - 03/03/10 09:50 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

I use a fujifilm finepix I think it is an s300 model but it's at a buddies house documenting the mess they just moved into. It does some really great pics up close and at portrait range, far out shots it just doesn't seem to be right for. but it makes a great little family camera and has enough tweakability that you can get really good super macros.


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    #378770 - 03/05/10 11:38 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

so are you saying that I should hope for 3 zs per 5 plants inverted?


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    #378773 - 03/05/10 11:50 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Oh no no.  I have a smaller HPS than you, and I'm only using a 2x2' footprint.  You'll be, I'm guessing around 1.25-1.5 per plant on average.

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    #378812 - 03/05/10 02:58 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Thank you very much!!! That means a shit load to me man. I'm pretty excited to finish up to.... And I didn't mean to sound snobby if I did, I meant it as an oh shit I better step it up tone. lol 1.25-1.5 would make me a happy man, as happy as I would be after smoking these babies......

They are very very sticky, I have to stop myself from touching them all day long.....and I check on them like 20 times a day when I get home...


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    #379251 - 03/06/10 07:41 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Whoa sorry I posted that in the wrong thread.  Take some pictures!


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    #379727 - 03/07/10 11:16 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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    #381481 - 03/10/10 07:24 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

ok gentlemen we are coming down to the wire now, here is the last update before harvest...Im thinking they will be done by next week (right on time). Check out the pics










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    #381494 - 03/10/10 07:38 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Those nugs are large and in charge my friend!  A bit on the leafy side but whatever, that just means more edibles/hash/oil... You should be happy with that pull!  1 more week?  Have you been flushing?


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    #381498 - 03/10/10 07:40 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

I agree with inverted. Looking very good so far! I would start the flush right now, and if you can without clogging the sprayers you should flush with just plain RO water and some molasses.


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    #381507 - 03/10/10 07:51 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

yeah man I started to flush a over the weekend.....I have no molasses in there though....my sprayers can take it im sure. What does it do exactly and how much should I add?


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    #381511 - 03/10/10 08:04 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

It is known to enhance flavors and smells, but some say it even improves growth.  It shouldn't clog your sprayers since you dilute it so well.

Add 1-2 tbsp per gallon of water, and make sure you shake the shit out of it because it takes about 30 seconds of vigorous action to dissolve.


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    #381513 - 03/10/10 08:06 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

sounds good man, thanks for the advice....

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    #384290 - 03/15/10 08:57 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

ok guys harvested my babies tonight.....kinda sad lol

here are some pics of the harvest and for harry some root porn







Any ideas on yield? Put a full sized bottle in there for comparison.... I harvested when the trichs were mostly milky and just starting to turn amber for more of an energetic high (so I have read)

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    #384489 - 03/16/10 07:21 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

good lord friz! those are some long roots :smile: some good fuckin beer to go with the trimming too excellent choice.

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    #384512 - 03/16/10 07:48 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah man I loveeee a good wheat beer and this one is very tasty...

Im hoping for 6zs wish me luck!


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    #384524 - 03/16/10 08:20 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

hmm.... they came out a little fluffier than I was expecting, but I think you'll still get about 6z.

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    #384527 - 03/16/10 08:26 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

trichs are all over these babies, im very excited about it.... its to bad I didnt have a good enough camera to get trich pics damnit...

anyway I got some NL beans now and im about to buy another 400w light....my question is well, is that to much electricity to have in an apartment? Electricity is included....


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    #384530 - 03/16/10 08:35 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

I don't think so especially if you keep an eye on your other use. My wife was all worried our bill would sky rocket and it has even been noticable running ~400w of CFL's plus 4 fans and at night a 1500w space heater off and on.

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    #384531 - 03/16/10 08:37 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

lol pha your a funny guy....... I cant wait to have a taste of these babies.... they have been on my mind for a long long time now. Hopefully these NL plants grow as good as these ones did. I am going to make a few improvements to my system which I will show in the beginning of my next thread


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    #384537 - 03/16/10 08:55 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Cool beans I am about to break down and puff some of the nug I cut for my birthday. I will be watching for the next post I am trying to decide what hydro system if any I want to play with. I am going to be building a system for a medical patient soon and he wants hydro I am just a total newb about all hydro though so I am researching and trying to talk him into something easier to maintain. Hes a really big guy and I don't see him getting down on his knees to change a resivior and shit. Plus he ends up in the hospital every couple weeks with blood clots caused by deep vein thrombosis so I think having something he can be away from is going to be key.

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    #389832 - 03/25/10 11:37 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Hey guys im planning to finish this us with a smoke report and final weight in a few days.

In the meantime I have been looking at the S&P TD125 inline fan. My booster fan is like 160cfm im wondering what is the difference? Am I MUCH better off with the S&P? Please respond ASAP I plan to order it today


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    #389869 - 03/25/10 12:20 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

nope. Duct booster fans are basically useless. if you really want to remove heat you need to look into fans like this
http://www.kitchensource.com/range-hoods/sl-pv-100x.htm
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    #389878 - 03/25/10 12:26 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

yeah that is what I was the info I was looking for....

check out the td125 harry tell me what you think....it is supposedly the quietest one they make and ive heard good things


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    #389879 - 03/25/10 12:29 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

still the wrong kind of fan :shrug:

click the links I gave you and compare how those fans look to the one you're talking about

http://www.fjevans.com/TD-125-5-Inline-Mixed-Flow-Duct-Fan-197-CFM-Soler-&-Palau-S&P-.2.2979.html


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    #389881 - 03/25/10 12:31 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

yeah I see what you are saying......

I dont know im just saying because I saw some good grower reviews for it, that link you just posted is just the internal, here is a link to the exact one im looking at.

http://www.bathfans.com/soler-and-palau-td-125-5-125mm-inline-mixed-flow-duct-fan/p934767

I need it to be quiet which is why I was looking at this one. Why wouldnt it work?


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    #389882 - 03/25/10 12:35 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

they're completely useless with negative or positive pressure. they work fine just on their own but as soon as you get a turn in your ducting or a filter (basically anything that causes drag) that fan will be basically useless.

How much light are you trying to cool?


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    #389883 - 03/25/10 12:37 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

just my 400 watter.....


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    #389888 - 03/25/10 12:54 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

I bet you COULD get away with it.  Hell my temps are in the 70's with my 150 and I'm just using a PC fan, although it is rated to 133cfm and says something about static pressure but most of it is in some asian language :shrug:

If you need to use a decent carbon filter, you are not going to get much cooling out of it.  If you put a filter on it you can probably assume the CFM will drop to like 20-40, they just arent meant to have any drag, and usually just boost the airflow on a long duct run that has lost velocity from the main fan source.  For that price though, you can get a nice inline fan that runs 250-400 CFM.  :thumbup:  I really don't know how loud they run though.  If you need something sorta quiet I would recommend the Dayton 6" axial fan, it is 235 CFM, and sports some good static pressure resistance.  They were going for $30-50 at my local hydro shop.


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    #389890 - 03/25/10 01:00 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

thanks for the advice. Im running a pretty small area I cant imagine needeing all that much cfm.....

what do you think about this one

http://cgi.ebay.com/4-INCH-HYDROPONIC-190CFM-INLINE-EXHAUST-VENT-FAN-BLOWER_W0QQitemZ290407643998QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item439da4fb5e

I hear they push a shit load of air and I feel ill have to build an insulator box for this one. I cant imagine needing any more cfm then this...


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    #389934 - 03/25/10 02:17 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

There ya go, looks about perfect, and like you said, if it is too loud, you can build a muffler, especially if you are into DIY.  That is what I would do personally.


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    #389941 - 03/25/10 02:26 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Ok thanks a lot man...

ill buy that one instead and just build the box....hopefully this will eliminate my heat stress problems and give me a nicer yield the next go around. Also I set up another closet and am doing some MK and northern lights so it should be sweet. Will be starting that one in a few weeks


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    #389942 - 03/25/10 02:29 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah you will definitely solve your heat stress problems if you utilize that fan correctly!  :thumbup:

I'm excited to follow another one of your journals.  :popcorn:


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    #402703 - 04/16/10 12:22 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Alright Ladies and Gentlemen (looks to be mostly gentlemen lol)

Here is my concluding update. When all was accounted for I wound up with about 4.5 ounces which was not my target. Here is why I did not meet my goal.

*Heat Stress
*Poor Root Water Coverage
*No Supplementary Light


I bought a really nice Vortec fan that is now keeping my temperature nice and steady at about 75-80 degrees so the head issue should be gone for the next grow. I also noticed that the roots actually grew into the holes that were supposed to be spraying them thus ruining some of the sprayers. This is obviously not a good thing so my solution was instead of having the sprayers at the bottom I ran some hose to the tops of the railing and drilled holes to have 2 sprayers for each cup. I am having a shit load more water flow and I think this will ultimately increase my yield greatly. I added some T5 Supplementary lighting this time to help along the growth of the buds, I will buy high output bulbs during flowering. I have a bit more room now also since the fan and the filter are in another room that I ran insulated ducting to. Pleas see the pictures for some results and improvements.












As you can see I started a seedling which is Northern Lights, I am going to make this into a mother and just build a cloner, I am going to take clones for this closet and another smaller closet that I have already bought equipment for and my second journal will begin then so I would say another few weeks.

My thanks to everybody for their advice and please be sure to join me with my next journal once I get it up and running.

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    #402705 - 04/16/10 12:27 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Forgot to add the smoke report.



The bud came out to be pretty fluffy in the end and I assume this is because of the heat in the room. I would say it hit high 80s and mid 90s.

The taste is very strong, I would say its like smoking some kind of pepper, not harsh but strong.

The smell is still pretty green, individually they dont smell all that strong which I have never really experienced, maybe its just because of the strain, the buds are nice and frothy and one or two hits is enough to kick my ass.

The high is really nice also, its a head high so it gives you a nice amount of energy opposed to the body high strains. All in all I would say that it is a very nice plant and I think once I really hone in on an aero system it will become one of my favorites.


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    #402721 - 04/16/10 12:46 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

How much did you end up yielding? did you hit your goal?


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    #402728 - 04/16/10 12:59 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

nope, I posted it...4.5 oz


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    #402729 - 04/16/10 01:01 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Wow I'm surprised. Definitely the heat issue, nugs that size should have yielded far more than that but high temps definitely lead to fluffy nuggets


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    #402743 - 04/16/10 01:33 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, I figured that was the problem.....DAMNIT lol but I got a kick ass fan now which will take care of that. Its pretty much heats worst nightmare lol


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    #409561 - 04/30/10 04:47 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Hey Guys please join me on my second journal, link is in my signature....


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