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& were are you getting your info from??? it's all here say soo your wasting your time!!
your just one of those people that always has to be right! Even when your dead WRONG!!!
Look dude, you need to chill out. This forum is for discussion of marijuana cultivation, so its only natural that there would be people here that are interested in discussing marijuana cultivation.
It isn't all here-say. Logically, if the light spectrum is the same and the light intensity and distribution is the same, then the results will, quite scientifically, be the same. Clearly, how one would make a fluorescent setup capable of producing great results will be different than an HID. Clearly, with HID lighting it is easier to obtain great results, but it certainly isn't impossible with fluorescents, and there are certainly situations in which fluorescents are the better option, for vegetative state and flowering (limited space/heat concerns).
Where are you getting your information from? You've stated that he wouldn't get more than a quarter to a half an ounce with that setup and strain. I asked you how you have determined that. No answer as of yet. I've obtained my information from developing an understanding of lighting and after observing many great fluorescents grow logs. All I have ever sought to have recognized is that your statement that using fluorescents as he is intending to use them is "wrong". It isn't wrong, and its not just an opinion.
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& those lowryder pics, like I said JOKE!!!
How so? They look great. I don't think there is anyone on this forum that would look at the pictures of those colas and proclaim that they were grown wrong. Could the plants have turned out more optimally with an HID setup? Of course, and no one is denying that. The point is that fluorescents can work quite well for flowering, there is plenty of results and evidence to support this, which takes the idea from simply being here-say and elevates it to the level of substantiated observation.
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OH by the way, Now I can't even have a opinion without you trying to correct it! yeah, your a good MOD.
What are you talking about? Feel free to have an opinion, and feel free to express it here. What you need to recognize is that there will be other posters here that will subject your opinion to criticism. That's what productive discussion is. You're perfectly free to go about your life thinking that flowering marijuana with fluorescents is wrong, and you can tell others that it is wrong as well. You'll just have to accept that other people will say that growing with them can be right, and if you're interested in posting here, you'll have to get used to the idea of productive discussion without getting butt-hurt about it.
and SFH bro, like you said man, even tho you cant expect results from flouros like you can with your HID's thats not to say they wont grow them.
some ppls budget, space, paranoia wont allow them to grow with hid's and flourescents bbecome the logical alternative.
and my sun puts your HID to shame. but im not tellin you or anyone who uses hid that growing them indoors, by way of, is wrong.
i know youre just tryin to help a guy out by tellin him hes nearly wasting his time by using flouros. but he doesnt need that, he needs to know how to work with what hes got. and he may take your advise and switch to different lighting in the future...
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I was thinking about this just the other day, and i agree with sirius. I was thinking about exactly what he was talking about. No matter what kind of lights they are if their spectrum and intensity is the same, it just seems like there wouldn't be a difference whether its an hid or not. The only thing is youd need more flouros to match the intensity.
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Quote: Laysthepipe said: The only thing is youd need more flouros to match the intensity.
Yup. The main opportunity is the fact that the light from fluorescents won't penetrate nearly as much as the light from an HID will. Once the plants start getting tall enough for this to be a concern, one could keep the overhead lighting and then supplement it with some vertical action between the plants. Setting up a fluorescent fixture overhead and then running some CFL's in a vertical position alongside the plants would probably be the best way to go for that, since it'd probably be easier to hang them vertically.
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Could the plants have turned out more optimally with an HID setup? Of course, and no one is denying that. The point is that fluorescents can work quite well for flowering, there is plenty of results and evidence to support this, which takes the idea from simply being here-say and elevates it to the level of substantiated observation. 
