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 Mr. Alien
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 Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. 
#803665 - 01/21/16 07:31 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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What Light would you guys prefer? The XTE 400 is modular which means you can replace broken parts yourself. Psychotron recommended me the XTE 400 for a 2x4 grow space, but I just want to know what the other people think.
I also found this website that says k5 features are gimmick. http://www.compareledgrowlights.com/gimmicks/#timer
Edited by Mr. Alien (01/21/16 07:48 AM)
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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Mr. Alien]
#803666 - 01/21/16 08:09 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'd recommend staying away from LED's period...but I have no first hand experience with growing plants, only research that I've done.
I personally plan on using tube lights for the germinating stage (until I get to the point where I start cloning of course).
From there I will do the Screen of Green Method using a Metal Halide (MH) bulb for the vegetative stage and then I'll be switching to a High Pressure Sodium (HPS) light for the flowering stage.
I'd be wanting a 600W MH bulb and a 1000W HPS because the room I'll be using is 4x4. You want 50W per square foot for the flowering stage...
My room is 4x4. so 4 times 4 = 16
16 x 50 (because you want 50 wats per square foot) = 800
So therefore I would want an 800W HPS light (but the light I want, the one I linked you, jumps from 600W to 1000W so I'd want the 1000W one and I could hook it up to a dimmer if I wanted to...or just use it as 1000W).
And if I understand it correctly, the MH light for the vegetative stage can be a little less which is why I'd be getting a 600W MH light instead of a 1000W one (save electricity and whatnot since I'll be having the vegetative light on close to 24 hours a day)
Your room is 2x4. 2 times 4 = 8
8 x 50 = 400
If I were you personally, I would get a 400W HPS and a 250W MH light and just leave it at that.
They have ballasts that switch between 400W and 250W so you'd only need one ballast. If you did a Screen of Green you wouldn't want to go through the trouble of moving your vegetative plants to a whole other flowering room anyways. You could just switch your ballast to 250W, put in your MH bulb during the vegetative stage, and then when it's time to switch over all you'd have to do is flip the switch to 400W and change out your MH bulb to a HPS bulb and you're golden.
Like I said, I have no first hand experience, but I really wouldn't go through the trouble of an LED light...
From what I've seen, any LED light that's actually worth having is going to cost you out the ass...With that money you could just get a MH and HPS light setup AND pay for the electric bill for a couple of grows.
MH and HPS light doesn't use as much electricity as most people think it does as explained in this post https://www.growery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/50049/fpart/1/vc/1
And from what I understand, you'd have a way better yield.
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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#803667 - 01/21/16 08:13 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Money is not a issue for me. I want LED's because they run cooler and the summer where I live is 107ºF outdoors and indoors 85-90ºF.
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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Mr. Alien]
#803668 - 01/21/16 08:17 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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If money isn't an issue then I don't see why you don't just put good ventilation with it and get the most out of your yield and quality 
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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#803669 - 01/21/16 08:31 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Because ventilation will not cool the room. I will need a AC i guess. I could do that too..
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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Mr. Alien]
#803670 - 01/21/16 08:44 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ventilation will DEFINITELY help if you do it right.
Have a fan blowing in fresh air to your plants at the bottom of the room and then set up an inline fan with a carbon filter and a piece of duct hose hooked up to it shooting out into the attic or out of the house. That will help a lot with keeping the smell down and all the heat from your lights are going straight to the inline fan and out of the room.
http://www.amazon.com/iPower-GLFANXINL4FILT4MD8C-4-Inch-Inline-Ducting/dp/B00D7M6692/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8
This would probably be a good one for that size of a room.
But yeah, a portable A/C will probably be necessary with or without the MH and HPS lights if it stays at about 85 - 90 in your house. You want them around 78 if you can.
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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#803671 - 01/21/16 08:47 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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It will be a grow tent inside a room. I can't make any holes to that room. I mean the hot air from the lamps will need to be expelled out of the tent into the room. That's the only option I will have because all the walls of that room adjoin with neighbors walls.
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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Mr. Alien]
#803672 - 01/21/16 08:53 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ah, I see your issue now. It would still help with the smell significantly because it would be going through the carbon filter as opposed to just smelling up your house in the tent. You could have a fan blowing from the opening of the tent and if you're feeling like fucking with it you can cut a hole big enough for your duct to stick out of your tent at the top of the opposite end and just glue or silicone the hole in the tent to your air duct so its sealed there and you don't have any unnecessary openings.
You'd get lots of fresh air with it circulating into the tent and back out into your room through the carbon filter. Just a thought.
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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Mr. Alien]
#803673 - 01/21/16 08:54 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Mr. Alien said:
It will be a grow tent inside a room. I can't make any holes to that room. I mean the hot air from the lamps will need to be expelled out of the tent into the room. That's the only option I will have because all the walls of that room collide with neighbors walls.
Running the exhaust into the same room is only going to make it that much hotter and it's gunna reeeek. Exhausted air is used/spent/humid air and pulling that back through your tent as fresh air isn't ideal at all.
Don't worry so much about the light and worry more about ventilation because it sounds like that is going to be your biggest hurdle. Plus this is what will get you busted.
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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Scribbler]
#803674 - 01/21/16 09:02 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Probably a dumb idea if your buildings are connected....but do you think it would be worth it to pop a hole in the ceiling and just shoot the exhaust hose into the attic?
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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#803675 - 01/21/16 09:03 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Maybe if you had like a $200 carbon filter or something? lol
(not including the price of the inline fan and exhaust hose.
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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Scribbler]
#803676 - 01/21/16 09:04 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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That's why i wanted to use LED lights in the first place lol, and if I still need Air conditioner i will put it. But i think that with the LED lights and the air conditioner i'll be ok expelling the hot air out of the tent into the room.
Scribbler you are saying that uses/spent air back to the tent is bad but the A/C will be injecting fresh new air in the sealed room. I mean that's the only option I have, I can't make a hole in the room to expelled the hot air out. I still thinking how I'm going to put an A/C in that room if I can't make any holes for the AC tubes. I Might be able to make some holes for the tubing in a wall that is not colliding with neighbors walls, but another hole for the extraction of hot air from the tent... I doubt it. I also have a dehumifier.
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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#803677 - 01/21/16 09:06 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Kush_Zombie said:
Probably a dumb idea if your buildings are connected....but do you think it would be worth it to pop a hole in the ceiling and just shoot the exhaust hose into the attic?
Holes in the ceiling are not a option either lol.
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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#803678 - 01/21/16 09:10 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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At my first apartment building the attic was accessible from any apartment through a hole in the closet. Honestly, if I lived a wall away from people, there is no way I would grow weed it stinks more than you think and it just takes 1 person to fuck you.
I think it would be ok running the AC exhaust somewhere because that has an explanation. When I wasn't running my central air and growing my house would smell so delicious lol circulation is absolute KEY. Since you don't have many options though def. go with LED and a NICE carbon filter. There are cheap ones on ebay and shit but they fucking suck and a good carbon filter is arguably one of the most important things when growing indoors IMO. I got a $50 ebay one which barely did anything then a $120 one from the hydro shop and I can't smell a damn thing.
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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Mr. Alien]
#803679 - 01/21/16 09:11 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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That's why I was saying to use a PORTABLE air conditioner instead of a wall air conditioner. It's basically like an electric heater...except with cold air lol. I'm trying to do everything in the basement so the wall isn't really an option for me either.
Also, I think LED lights would solve your temperature problem (which would be solvable anyways)...but it doesn't solve your ventilation problem. Your plants are still going to produce that humidity and carbon dioxide with or without an LED
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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#803681 - 01/21/16 09:20 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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You still have to exhaust portable air conditioners.
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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#803682 - 01/21/16 09:28 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Mr. Alien said:
I still thinking how I'm going to put an A/C in that room if I can't make any holes for the AC tubes.
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Kush_Zombie said:
That's why I was saying to use a PORTABLE air conditioner instead of a wall air conditioner.
I thought he was asking how to cut a hole in the wall for an air conditioner, didn't realize he was talking about where to stick the exhaust hose.
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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Mr. Alien]
#803683 - 01/21/16 09:30 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Mr. Alien said:
What Light would you guys prefer? The XTE 400 is modular which means you can replace broken parts yourself. Psychotron recommended me the XTE 400 for a 2x4 grow space, but I just want to know what the other people think.
I also found this website that says k5 features are gimmick. http://www.compareledgrowlights.com/gimmicks/#timer
The XTE from advanced led is the way to go here.
I've seen nothing but great results so far out of them.
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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#803684 - 01/21/16 09:32 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Kush_Zombie said:
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Mr. Alien said:
I still thinking how I'm going to put an A/C in that room if I can't make any holes for the AC tubes.
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Kush_Zombie said:
That's why I was saying to use a PORTABLE air conditioner instead of a wall air conditioner.
I thought he was asking how to cut a hole in the wall for an air conditioner, didn't realize he was talking about where to stick the exhaust hose.
Yeah man he can't even cut a hole for a hose.
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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Stoneth]
#803685 - 01/21/16 09:35 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Geeeeeeeez that's $1200 here http://advancedledlights.com/3w-led-grow-lights/xte-series-led-grow-light-usa-made-5w-leds/
So why isn't cutting into the ceiling an option out of curiosity? It's not like the board on your ceiling is also the floor of the people above you. There's some space in there lol
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