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Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights.
    #803665 - 01/21/16 07:31 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

What Light would you guys prefer? The XTE 400 is modular which means you can replace broken parts yourself. Psychotron recommended me the XTE 400 for a 2x4 grow space, but I just want to know what the other people think.

I also found this website that says k5 features are gimmick. http://www.compareledgrowlights.com/gimmicks/#timer

Edited by Mr. Alien (01/21/16 07:48 AM)

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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #803667 - 01/21/16 08:13 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Money is not a issue for me. I want LED's because they run cooler and the summer where I live is 107ºF outdoors and indoors 85-90ºF.

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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #803669 - 01/21/16 08:31 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Because ventilation will not cool the room. I will need a AC i guess. I could do that too..

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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #803671 - 01/21/16 08:47 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

It will be a grow tent inside a room. I can't make any holes to that room. I mean the hot air from the lamps will need to be expelled out of the tent into the room. That's the only option I will have because all the walls of that room adjoin with neighbors walls.

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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Scribbler]
    #803676 - 01/21/16 09:04 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

That's why i wanted to use LED lights in the first place lol, and if I still need Air conditioner i will put it. But i think that with the LED lights and the air conditioner i'll be ok expelling the hot air out of the tent into the room.

Scribbler you are saying that uses/spent air back to the tent is bad but the A/C will be injecting fresh new air in the sealed room. I mean that's the only option I have, I can't make a hole in the room to expelled the hot air out. I still thinking how I'm going to put an A/C in that room if I can't make any holes for the AC tubes. I Might be able to make some holes for the tubing in a wall that is not colliding with neighbors walls, but another hole for the extraction of hot air from the tent... I doubt it. I also have a dehumifier.

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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #803677 - 01/21/16 09:06 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Probably a dumb idea if your buildings are connected....but do you think it would be worth it to pop a hole in the ceiling and just shoot the exhaust hose into the attic?




Holes in the ceiling are not a option either lol.

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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Scribbler]
    #803688 - 01/21/16 09:40 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

You guys talk about air circulation inside the tent? I mean inside the tent is the most important from what I know. Outside the tent why you need circulation, the outside of the tent is just to hold the hot air while the AC is doing it's thing. Or I'm wrong? I have a Dehumidifier if it get to humid.

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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #803690 - 01/21/16 09:41 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Kush_Zombie said:
Geeeeeeeez that's $1200 here http://advancedledlights.com/3w-led-grow-lights/xte-series-led-grow-light-usa-made-5w-leds/

So why isn't cutting into the ceiling an option out of curiosity? It's not like the board on your ceiling is also the floor of the people above you. There's some space in there lol




Yeah, there's nobody living above. But Ceiling Holes are a pain in the ass with the rain and that shit. Also my house is old and the walls and ceilings are HARD as fuck. Hard like stones.

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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #803692 - 01/21/16 09:43 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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You don't need circulation. You need ventilation.




I'm confused. Why i need ventilation outside the tent.

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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #803696 - 01/21/16 09:46 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Mr. Alien said:
Quote:

Kush_Zombie said:
You don't need circulation. You need ventilation.




I'm confused. Why i need ventilation outside the tent.




I mean why I need ventilation if inside the room i will have AC unit and dehumidifier. Co2 Is better to keep it in a sealed room, so why i need ventilation outside the tent?

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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Stoneth]
    #803699 - 01/21/16 09:49 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

I intend to use this carbon filters also http://www.phreshfilter.com/ Which are gooood.

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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Scribbler]
    #803707 - 01/21/16 10:00 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

So how many holes I need the room. 1 For the air conditioner and 1 for an INtractor to inject fresh air?

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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #803714 - 01/21/16 10:18 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

So I don't need an exhaust fan in the room?

Let me get this straight. I will grow in a tent that will be inside the room.

The tent will have a passive air in hole and an exhaust fan with a carbon filter attach. That exhaust fan will expel all the used/stale air out into the ROOM. Then how the room will expel that used air out of the room? Will I also need to have a exhaust fan in the room for doing that? And a Inline fan for injecting new air into the room? And then how the air condition will cool with all the Air exchange happening?

I just don't get it.

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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #803715 - 01/21/16 10:19 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Kush_Zombie said:
Just some quick advice though...that may be obvious for some but not for others.

IF you do decide to go with a MH and HPS bulb make sure to get a good ballast.

The last thing you want is to get some cheap setup like this http://www.ebay.com/itm/250w-HPS-MH-Grow-Light-Kit-Dimmable-Digital-Ballast-27x18-Adjust-Wing-Reflector-/381429074832?hash=item58cef1cb90&rmvSB=true

Galaxy is a good brand, they're the one I'll probably be going with. And remember how I said something earlier in my first post about having a ballast that switches wats? Make sure you have the right ballast for the right light.
Do not try to stick a 1000W light bulb in a 600W ballast.

Again, this is probably obvious but I'd hate to have your next post be about how you caught your apartment on fire...if we had the chance to hear about it.




http://supercloset.com/product-category/grow-rooms/ I will buy a whole kit of that website. They have everything high quality, the carbon filters and everything really.

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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #803719 - 01/21/16 10:25 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Also this, please help me to understand it cause it giving me headaches.

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Mr. Alien said:
So I don't need an exhaust fan in the room?

Let me get this straight. I will grow in a tent that will be inside the room.

The tent will have a passive air in hole and an exhaust fan with a carbon filter attach. That exhaust fan will expel all the used/stale air out into the ROOM. Then how the room will expel that used air out of the room? Will I also need to have a exhaust fan in the room for doing that? And a Inline fan for injecting new air into the room? And then how the air condition will cool with all the Air exchange happening?

I just don't get it.



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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Scribbler]
    #803722 - 01/21/16 10:29 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Scribbler said:
:lol: That's why you're supposed to expel the air OUT of the room in the first place. You don't need an exhaust in the room your tent is in normally because it exhausts through your tent. You just need a source of fresh air coming into that room.




Isn't some A/C's have like double hose? 1 for injecting fresh air and another one to exhaust hot stale air out? That would be like better than using a air conditioner than only cool the air inside without air exchanging any air at all.

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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Scribbler]
    #803726 - 01/21/16 10:47 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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And just so we're clear, DUCT HOSE1 connects to the LIGHT like this






That's why i want LED lighting, i don't like octopuses in my grow tent. You don't need to have all that hoses inside the tent from what I understand.


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I have no idea. If they do that would be a good option but you might have to make 2 holes in the wall then  :willynilly:




I think they do Air exchange. But it will be enough?

"Dual Hose Air Conditioning Units
Dual Hose Portable Air Conditioner
The other type of portable air conditioning unit is the dual hose unit. This model has a couple of intakes and one outtake hose. Through the intake, air is drawn into the unit where it is cooled and then sent back into the area. The machine heats up through the process and an intake hose pulls air from outside the home to cool the air conditioner down.
A second hose sends all of the warmed air outside of the home. With this efficient exchange of air, the dual hose system doesn’t have to work nearly as hard as the single hose option.
For larger spaces, the dual hose A/C unit is a better choice.
The dual hose machine eliminates the negative air pressure problem, but also costs a bit more.
This air conditioner operates more quickly than the other and also requires more electricity.
Compare BTU and EER ratings, as well as manufacturing quality to determine which of the models are most appropriate for your setting."
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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #803730 - 01/21/16 11:07 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Kush_Zombie said:
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Mr. Alien said:
That's why i want LED lighting, i don't like octopuses in my grow tent. You don't need to have all that hoses inside the tent from what I understand.




:justno:

It's literally one hose...except for DUCT HOSE1 which is like a 4 inch piece of duct...That's like 10 minutes to set up




Yeah man but with the temp problems and if the double hose portable air conditioner may solve my problems of air exchange but maybe it won't cool like I would have wanted so LED light may be what I need.

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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #803741 - 01/21/16 11:38 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

So having a inlet fan to provide fresh air to the ROOM (not tent, tent have its own passive inlet and active exhaust fan) is really the only hole I need in the room and the air conditioner hole. That inlet fan of the room, how much time should be on? It should be injecting fresh air continuously or with a timer?

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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #803745 - 01/21/16 11:46 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

So this is the room i have





I have mushroom growing stuff inside that room but don't pay attention to that. So that wall (the wall to the left of the door in the first pic with the electric plug) is the only wall available to make holes. The walls inside the room are neighbors walls.

Is a 4.5x9 FT with 8.5FT of height. Very strong room, concrete walls.

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