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coda


Registered: 04/20/08
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Re: growing in an apartment [Re: Mad Hatter]
#66386 - 06/26/08 09:41 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Mad Hatter said: Get yourself a hydrohut for the smell or u will be getting teh bust
actually that's bad advice right now. Hydrohut, and some other tent manufacturers, have had a problem with the tent canvas. The material used to create the tent was flawed somehow and it releases a gas which is death to your plants. They've issued a major recall for all of their products, but right now claim to have no good tents available. Be careful when purchasing grow tents!
koons - I grew in an apartment for two years with a 430 watt light for the the most part. The last grow i did there i used my current 600 watt light. The main issue with apt growing is security. Since you don't own your landlord, and staff, can pretty much enter your place whenever. They do reserve the right to inspect your apt for illegal activity if they so choose. They also have the right to come in and do maintenance work when they deem it necessary. So, in order to be really secure you're going to have to hide it in a closet. Otherwise you;ll just be playing a risk game with your landlord.
The other big problem is ventilation. Unless you want to pay for damages, or are a dry waller, it's going to be difficult venting out your lights. With 1200 watts you're going to need a place to put all of that hot air. You can't really vent through your apts HVAC system either. You risk the chance of smells leaking into other apartments. This was a major issue i faced, the only way to keep my grow room cool was by running my central air almost non stop. You can purchase a window unit to help cool the room if you can afford it, but in the end you're still going to need a place for your hot air to go to.
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coda


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Re: growing in an apartment [Re: Sirius]
#66565 - 06/26/08 01:13 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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yah, if you do decide to be ballsy and vent into the venting system you need to be damn sure there's no smell. My last grow i vented the air that way. During the night when the lights were on the smell was noticeable in the room next door. It never filtered into the house so i didn't mind, especially because the other room was mine , but there's a distinct chance your vented air can end up in your neighbors room.
Careful man, if you're going to be moving into this place i'd suggest not growing for a month or two and see if anyone drops in on you. My first ever apt had the maintenance guy dropping in every month to replace air filters. Also, like sirius said, if possible ask your landlord to notify you before visits.
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coda


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Re: growing in an apartment [Re: SRH]
#68891 - 06/30/08 09:53 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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SRH said: I was think of using 2 600w also. But I plan on building a 3x3 or so grow room to conceal it.
for 1200 watts i'd go with at least a 4x4 area, even in something that small you're going to need to condition the air to fight the temps.
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coda


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Re: growing in an apartment [Re: Sirius]
#69241 - 07/01/08 02:20 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Sirius said: Wouldn't shoving 1200 watts in a 3X3 or a 4X4 be more than necessary anyways, beyond the temperature concern?
in a 3x3 for sure. In a 4x4, eh, you'd be ok. I really wanted to emulate this one guys setup. 20 plant SOG grow in a 4x4 area under a 1k light. He pulled between 2-3 pounds every two months.
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coda


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Re: growing in an apartment [Re: captain.koons]
#69259 - 07/01/08 02:37 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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soil in one gallon pots. Plants were vegged at most for a week after rooting. I'm pretty sure he pulled 2 lbs more then 3, but he did mention grows exceeding 2 lbs.
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I think my friend was telling me he got 580 grams under a 600w in 2months with Heavy Duty Fruity
Neat, i grew HDF for a while when i started out. It's definitely a nice smoke.
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coda


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Re: growing in an apartment [Re: Sirius]
#69281 - 07/01/08 03:57 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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optimal yield seems to be around 95% of your wattage with a SoG or SCRoG method
maybe with a fuck ton of plants, i was never able to pull more then two oz's per plant using a 400 watter with HDF. 2 oz's was also a solid harvest per plant as well, i usually averaged around 1 oz per plant.
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the 600 watt shouldn't be a limiting factor on their growth, should it?
3x3 area = 9 sq ft
600 watts / 9 sq ft = 66.6 watts per sq ft
considering 50 watts per sq foot is the optimal standard i'd say a 600 watt light is more then adequate for your room. The cultivator i'm referencing used a 1k light in 16 sq ft and pulled 62 watts/sq ft. Your biggest concern with high wattage lamps in confined spaces is heat. Again, the grower i'm referencing installed a window air unit in his grow area to keep temps in the low 70's using a 256 cfm 6" fan for exhaust.
So, if i were you, i'd do a couple of dry runs with your room before you threw plants in there. If you're keeping the lights on at night, test the area at night. If you have a wireless thermometer that records high and low temps, set the remote in the room on the floor and let it go for a night. If you want to be anal about it you can see how long it takes your room to heat up to it's max temp, but it's unnecessary. The next thing i would do is to set the remote at the height (or just buy two remotes and do the test at the same time) you want your tops to reach. This way you can get a good idea of how hot this area of your grow room gets. Once you start filling in plants the bottom of the room will remain cooler then the tips of your plants because of the shade produced by the fan leaves. However, it still gives you a great baseline reading of the temps in your tent. If you know the bottom of your tent is too hot, you already know the upper levels of your room will be hotter.
Keep the temps in check, give em plenty of air to breathe, and make sure they don't dry out on ya too quickly.
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coda


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Re: growing in an apartment [Re: captain.koons]
#69287 - 07/01/08 04:05 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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i usually flowered between 5-7 plants using the 400 watter. Actually, it's a 430, but who's counting
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coda


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Re: growing in an apartment [Re: captain.koons]
#69291 - 07/01/08 04:11 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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out of the three grows i did with HDF i think 2-3 plants pulled in 2 oz's a piece. Like i said i mainly saw around an oz per plant (which i was pretty happy with).
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coda


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Re: growing in an apartment [Re: yellownotepad]
#71383 - 07/03/08 03:15 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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they're the most effective option. You can always vent the hot air into another room of your house using flexible ducting. Does fuck all for security, but at least your room will be cool.
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coda


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Re: growing in an apartment [Re: coda]
#71384 - 07/03/08 03:15 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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this is also assuming you dont want to cut 6 inch holes in your walls. If you don't mind doing that, that's an option as well.
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