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Hawksresurrection
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Re: Grow Light Options Discussion [Re: knowboddy]
#641765 - 10/25/12 03:04 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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For me it's HID in all areas, for the time being. LED is up and coming, but not there yet for my tastes.
HID comes in all sorts of sizes, and cost points. Watt for Watt it puts out less heat than CFL's. And has way better canopy penetration than LED or CFL.
There are down sides to it, having to vent etc. But that just comes with the territory. Phyco will pipe in soon and give his opinion on LED, and that's what he will prefer.
There doesn't seem to enough info on Plasma right now for it to even be in the running IMO.
-------------------- Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
-niteowl
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: Grow Light Options Discussion [Re: sidetwist]
#645896 - 11/14/12 12:50 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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A 200 watt HPS will out grow the CFL's your using. And put out less heat per watt.
I still go with 1000 watts, I know it's technically more advantageous to do 600's. But fuck that, I'm amurican, bigger is better
-------------------- Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
-niteowl
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: Grow Light Options Discussion [Re: Tank333]
#645992 - 11/15/12 12:06 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Tank333 said: I like magnetic ballasts because I can repair them, whereas a digital I would have to send it in to be replaced. Also, digitals are more expensive, because you gotta make sure to get a good one that's got a replacement guarantee, otherwise if it shorts out you're up sh*t creek and gotta buy a new one.
-------------------- Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
-niteowl
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: Grow Light Options Discussion [Re: Stoneth]
#645995 - 11/15/12 12:55 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've 1 ballast fail in the last 8 years with Magnetic. I'm sticking with em.
-------------------- Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
-niteowl
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: Grow Light Options Discussion [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#646110 - 11/15/12 11:09 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Harry_Ba11sach said:
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sidetwist said: it's also proven to be more efficient to have ceveral 200 Watt lights than one 600W or 1000W because of proximity heat, area and canopy penetration.
Stop. Stop. No. NO. No.
explain three things to me
1) Where it was "proven" (the most pervasive and by far more erroneous misnomer in "pop-culture" science). Was this source peer reviewed?
2) Why you spelled "several" with a C.
3) How on earth you think multiple, smaller lights will have better canopy penetration than a single high output light source.
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I'd go with smaller CFLs from the beginning because I have only a small grow and you can make up for the bad penetration by spreading them all around the plants and also because small ones put out less heat you can put them closer to the plants.
Again, nope. They have less heat per bulb, because it's only a 24W bulb, but if you're measuring heat per watt of photosynthetically active radiation (which is the only logical way to compare them) then it's WAY retardedly worse than an HID. Somewhere on the order of 300% higher heat output than an HID bulb.
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Stoneth said: I'd go digital, long before I'd go magnetic. My two cents.
My nigga.
I've seen it in Jorge's book that 600's are better than 1000 watters. Can get more lumen per watt productions because of how much closer you can get the lights. Not that lumens mean more weight, yadda yadda
-------------------- Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
-niteowl
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: Grow Light Options Discussion [Re: Stoneth]
#646122 - 11/15/12 11:40 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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I understood, just commenting on what the reality of the situation was.
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-niteowl
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: Grow Light Options Discussion [Re: sidetwist]
#646143 - 11/16/12 01:58 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Why don't we do a comparison man. You get the same amount of watts in CFL, I'll equal it in HID form. Let's see who get's a better yield and quality.....
Yes CFL's can work. But Jorge was comparing 600 watt to 1000 watt.
-------------------- Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
-niteowl
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: Grow Light Options Discussion [Re: sidetwist]
#646147 - 11/16/12 02:59 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Exactly, Jorge was not talking about using CFL's. He's using HID. YOu can't even compare the two.
-------------------- Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
-niteowl
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: Grow Light Options Discussion [Re: sidetwist]
#646184 - 11/16/12 12:04 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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-------------------- Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
-niteowl
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