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What is the problem with these babies ?
    #630398 - 07/04/12 06:48 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Hi guys, i need some help with the experts here to diagnose what seems to be the problem with my plants.

I'm confused with the problem as being Nutrient Burn.. OR Nitrogen deficiency *looks like it in the diagnose guide*


Symptoms are leaves turning yellow and dry-ish... and eventually whole leaves turns yellow and drops off.. younger lower leaves are turning yellow and drops off too..

I've stopped all kind of nutrients and have been flushing them with RO Distilled water *cost me huge amount of $$$* for the past 3 days.

These are the photos to my  grow.. any help will be very grateful!





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Re: What is the problem with these babies ? [Re: brainsOplenty]
    #630414 - 07/04/12 08:08 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Soil Growers:
1. Are you growing from seed or clones?
- They are from variety of seeds ranging from BF Vanilla Kush to DP Purple Haze #1 ... and many other free seeds that comes with the purchase.  not from clones.

2. How old are your plants?
- They are 5 weeks from the day it was planted to soil.

3. How tall are your plants?
- There are different types ... the tallest being 35cm , shortest being just under 15cm (from top soil)

4. What size containers are they planted in?
- These are plastic containers available with bottom holes to regulate excess water . measures 25x25x25cm

5. What is your soil mix?
- This is a question im unable to answer. It is the most expensive (and the best available in my country, Indonesia) which uses 100% organic compost materials. Sold by sacks.

6. How often do you water and what type of water do you use?
- Watered using pH 7.0 Reverse Osmosis distilled water purchased by the gallons, once every day (for the small pot) and once every other day (for the bigger pot)

7. What is the pH of your water?
- pH 7.0 Straight distilled.


8. What kind of fertilizer do you use and what is its NPK ratio?
- Please see image below for my NPK and fertilizer content.

9. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything?
- I do spray with the RO water to mist the leaves...

10. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights")
- Currently im still using a single 400w HPS watt , but i do have another one installed and ready to light it up .. but i did not see the requirement to...

11. How close are your lights to the plants?
- its about 30cm away.. not too hot for my hands. and it is air conditioned cooled. Temps are 30-31deg celcious... depens on the weather..

12. What size is your grow space in square feet?
- Plenty of space..  its a 3x4 meters grow (10x13 ft room)


13. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space?
- Temperature varies from 30-31 deg C (88 deg F) and 60-65% humidity..

14. What is the pH of the soil?
- Soil ph is about 7.2-7.4 .. i know this is a bit too high.. but i've tried Sulphuric acid (battery acid) , lemon, ph Down for aquarium.. but the ph climbs back to normal !

15. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space?
- The grow room have been very sterile.. there are no rooms and even gaps for any fuckers to come in.

16. How much experience do you have growing?
- I do have a previous experience (successful) using hyrdrophonics.. but this is my first time using soil . I'm unable to get my hands on good nutes for hydro in my country. Hence, i have to make do with whatever i have here to sustain the growth..

Any help is greatly appreciated!





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Re: What is the problem with these babies ? [Re: the man]
    #631457 - 07/12/12 07:09 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Hello guys! Thank you for all the replies.. as recommended by hawksapprentice and orison319 .. i did both flushing with 3x the amount of the container and changing the pH of my water feeding to 6.5~6.7 average for the past week and i DO get results!!

Here are some pics of my those that Recuperate well ... why im saying that they are recuperating is that these are the ones that is growing new leaves without any yellowing discolouration or any sort of yellowing


















Here is one that is NOT doing too good.. i have mixed feelings whether to scrap this one out...






Temperature is at...




I forgot which ones are which in these photos, but they are a mix of DP Purple #1, Vanilla Kush, BigBud and Liberty Haze ..

and finally,

Does the leaves that is yellow and or sick.. is going to turn back to green or are they going to drop off ? because im not seeing any sign that they are going to return to green...

Since this is a stunted growth , does this affect the lifespan for these cannabis in my growing calendar before turning to flowering mode ?

How long does it take for these sick plants to go back to its 'normal' state ?

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Re: What is the problem with these babies ? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #633314 - 07/31/12 08:00 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Hi guys, i've flushed these babies with 5.1ph Water last thursday (previously soil was 7.3+ph) .. im at lost here.. there doesnt seem to be a change in , and maybe its going from bad to worse!  All me leaves are lime green.. the bottom leaves are yellowish in colour.. some are spotted .. and the list goes on.. you can view them with the images below..


This time , i do believe that there must be something to do with the fertilizers.. i mean.. these are all deficiencies.. i'm going with multiple deficiencies (judging by the nutrient guide in the sticky post) ...


Should I do an experimentation by applying stronger nutrients ? (mixed with 6.5ph water ?) I'm really confused now.

There are 2 pots that show some kind of improvement .. the top leaves are dark green - which i think is a good sign - although the bottom sections are yellowing and/or withering (crispy dry) ..

And also , will these be any problem with the light ? since im using HPS (400w) x2 for 15 pot of plant .. distance is about 24inch approximately.. its on air-conditioned sealed room .

Any advise guys ? I'm fucking desperate now :frown:

















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Re: What is the problem with these babies ? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #633561 - 08/02/12 06:56 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Maestro: Ermm.. i'm using Reverse Osmosis distilled water bought from convenience store .. yes.. I only water 'around' the areas of the roots .. not through the whole soil area ... Is that wrong ?

Well, i assume that since they are still young, the roots won't spread out just yet... once they develop at least some height, i'll start to water them evenly and more... im using too huge of a container right now :frown:

hawksapprentice: I believe so.. i'm adding fertilizers as we speak, 2.5grams per litre... the recommended dosage (From the packaging) the ph of diluted nutrients in the water is around pH6.1 .. its tinted slightly blue.. here is some photos of it..

i'm crossing my finger that everything will go as planned.





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Re: What is the problem with these babies ? [Re: digitalsinz]
    #633815 - 08/04/12 03:07 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

digitalsinz said:
Maestro: Ermm.. i'm using Reverse Osmosis distilled water bought from convenience store .. yes.. I only water 'around' the areas of the roots .. not through the whole soil area ... Is that wrong ?

Well, i assume that since they are still young, the roots won't spread out just yet... once they develop at least some height, i'll start to water them evenly and more... im using too huge of a container right now :frown:

hawksapprentice: I believe so.. i'm adding fertilizers as we speak, 2.5grams per litre... the recommended dosage (From the packaging) the ph of diluted nutrients in the water is around pH6.1 .. its tinted slightly blue.. here is some photos of it..

i'm crossing my finger that everything will go as planned.









well if you only water certain areas , then roots will only grow in those areas. if anything, you should water around the stem, so the roots reach out.

theyre not that young btw. if they're as tall and as wide as the pots, the roots (should) have already spread to every side of the pot.


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Re: What is the problem with these babies ? [Re: digitalsinz]
    #634387 - 08/10/12 03:58 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Hi again guys! I'm seeing quite a bit of improvemenet these past few days.. even though its not 'that' great..

Here are some pics taken that copes well with the flushes and the nutrients..  I was wondering is it possible that the nutrient dose is too litte ? (its 2.5grams for every litre) should i increase the dosage ? to lets say ... 3 grams for every liter ? ..

There are some pots that is showing little or not improvemenet for the works that ive done... leaves are still yellowing.. and not really looking good... pics are bellow too

I've nurtured 3 Barneys farm LSD babies.. and they are starting to turn yellow too... at such an early age! i've previously flushed with the same pH 5.1 .. and added nutrients 2 days later.. but its not coping very well i might say.. shall i increase nutrients ?


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PICS OF PLANTS THAT IS NOT DOING TOO GOOD
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PICS OF NEW BABY PLANTS TURNING YELLOW
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Re: What is the problem with these babies ? [Re: sidetwist]
    #636371 - 09/03/12 07:05 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Guys. i  encounter another problem.. what is wrong with  the photos ? is this becaue of lack of Potassion ? because judging from the marijuana problems guide,  this DEFINITELY looks like lack of potassium... should i switch to 10-55-10 now ? or should i stick to 20-20-20 ?


Please advise !






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