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Ingrimus said:
Is smell a concern in your house?
Do you have plans for a carbon filter?

Flat white paint, or that white or silver rollout with the black backing (tip of my tongue but i'm sure almost everyone else here could name it for you) (Mylar?)

What're you doing for lighting? and venting any heat caused by that lighting

Hydro or soil or what?

Got timers? not shitty timers?

Are you going to have a constant grow going in there? (plans to segment a seperate mother/clone room and/or curing area?)

How many plants?

Got nutes?

Also watch the double posting =P mr. grow room design copypasta to cultivation

I'm talking with a cat crawling all over me for food, so I can't really think atm, but if you answer those questions I'll be happy to help you out if I can.

oh, C02? (probably not but figured I'd ask)

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Ingrimus said:
1-3 dank plants can reek up your house pretty good =P trust me.
Those Air sponge things you can get at the supermarket work pretty good if you're not super concerned (parents/roommates don't really care, just people at your house everyday)

I've actually been using one of these per grow (when the top gets dry I just cut an x into it, then when the x dries flip em over) when I have 1 or two plants going, just cause I'm too lazy to run another extension cord or install another socket for my fan/carbon filter) and its fine for me with my window cracked and an overhead fan on low
to each their own.

If you really need smell protection then you should invest in making yourself a carbon filter and output vent/fan for your closet, there's lots and lots of great teks on making one on the cheap.

If you're planning on growing after this but still want something with some oomph you might consider a new gen LED light panel or two, I've never used one but have friends that have great success with them (read up on them before you just go buy though; different spectrums and such)

Otherwise go with a cheap HPS/MH combo pack or CFLs, HPS and MH are pretty heavy duty on the electric bill though (as opposed to led and CFL at least) but if your space calls for it (and you install proper venting) they are the classic choices and could end up less then running 20+ CFLs.
but for 1-3 plants I'd just get a bunch of CFLs and splitters or a few LED panels, but that(the CFLs)'s what I'm using now so I'm probably bias

I personally dig soil. (get it? ha ha)
It's just so nice to smoke something grown out of dirt you've inspected and know is rich and flavourful; but a well flushed hydro is nothing I'd ever turn down; so it's up to you, have you looked into bubble buckets? dead easy and works awesome.

Make yourself a note to self:
Look up bubble bucket teks.

Timers you need unless you just want a mother or are growing autoflowering plants, and even then they're better to have then to have not.

You can get flat white paint for cheap, but I got my mylar pretty cheap too so check around.

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RasJeph said:
I just wanted to say, pretty sweet popcorn maker.

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Now you wouldn't be saying I'm full of hot air would you?
Just kidding, I know wouldn't you want to make some pot-corn in that with some nice greenbutter? movie night at prods!
compact fluorescent lightbulbs are what you want (if you decide to go with CFLs, HPS is (IMO) the best all around "power light" but requires ballast and heat venting.

get your light, whatever you choose to use (High pressure sodium (good all around), Metal Halide (good flowerer) Compact fluorescent lights (cheap and decently efficent).
Get seeds
Get paper towel
Get 2 plates
wet paper towels and squeeze out, fold in half with seeds in between
place on plate
place plate on top of plate
add a few drops of water or better yet a mist from a spray bottle
put in warmish dark place
wait 2 days, check seeds
sprouted? no? then:
wait another day, check seeds
repeat
Your seed(s) sprouted?
Get pot(s)
Get rocks
Line rocks 1-2 inches deep along bottom of pot for drainage
Get soil (potting soil or moisure control makes a good mix to lighten up heavy soils)
Put soil in pot, don't compact, but don't worry about keeping it super fluffy.
make indent about half an inch deep in desired planting spot
place seed sprout side up
cover loosely with dirt
mist lightly or add a few drops of water
put under 18 or 24 hour light
wait
sprouts popped the soil? yes?
18on/6off light cycle
water (with regular water) when soil is starting to get lighter (in colour as well as weight, mostly colour)
You can also get a broken piece of terra cotta and shove it in your pot, it'll darken and lighten according to soil moisture
soil should be moist but not soaking wet
wait 3-8+ weeks, or until you feel your plant to be strong enough to support the growth you crave, start watering with a VERY diluted 20.20.20 plant food (maybe 15ml to a gallon) keep doing this until 2-4 weeks before harvest.
switch light cycle to 12on/12off
Sex them
weed out the males (kill/transplant FAR away/etc.)
keep them on 12/12
wait
wait
wait
get a 30x or better microscope/magnifying glass/jewelers loupe (cheap at radio shack or jewelers supply store)
wait
wait
wait
wait
wait
wait
dont forget to wait
switch water to pure water 2-4 weeks before harvest (you can add a little bit of blackstrap molasses to the water to make your buds sweeter if you wish)
cut down when trichomes are mostly cloudy and amber has just started to present itself
Trichome Chart

you can cut off fan and other large leaves before or after hanging for a few days, your bud will dry slower with them on but will leach out more icky stuff (this is good) due to the slower drying process
hang to dry for 2-7 days in a cool dryish (not bone dry arizona desert dry, but not humid either) dark area
when bud tips become crispy trim off all the leaves you don't want on your buds (always trim the tips of the leaves off, even if you're making shakey bud, the tips make the smoke harsh) place in brown paper bag with strips of newspaper or unbleached paper; roll top shut and keep in bag for 3-7 days (open every day for moisture and air exchange, try and keep the buds from touching with strips of paper, watch out for mold!)
manicure buds to their final glory; if you haven't already (patience, only way to do this)
you can strip the buds off the stems at this point if you so choose; i enjoy breaking it right off the stem to smoke, but that's just for personal preference, I notice no difference in potency/taste/smell/look
place in airtight jar(s)(don't crowd the buds in) in a dark cool place; open them 1-2 times a day to exchange the air and release the moisture. (adding some lime or other citrus peel (grapefruit yum) to your jars is one way to refresh it if you've overdried your bud, or just a nice way to add a little flavour and sweetness.)
after 2 weeks or so in the jars your buds should be ready to smoke!

Take your leftover stems and make stem tea or butter
same with the shake, or smoke it if it's crystally and you need something to smoke as the rest cures (dries in like 3 days in a dark place with mild draft, 1-2 with a 60w light shining on it (it'll be harsher and greener tasting, but I bong my shake when I smoke it so I don't even notice)

There ya go.

Fill in the blanks as for smell (get a few air fresheners, smokestop spray, air sponges, an air purifier and ionizer, or just a cracked open window, whatever works for you)

Nothing about C02, if you really want to use it just go buy yourself a bottle, or grow large amounts of mushrooms around the plant.

throw dirt in compost, mix it up with other compost.
rinse (pot) and repeat.
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pot-fit!

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TheProdigy said:
so can u tell me what i need to buy? i look on amazon for cfl and light bulbs came up so i typed cfl panel and nothing came up.


and how would i set it up? i have no experience with wiring.

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this is a splitter, you can find ones that split to 3, but they're rare where i am.


That's the nice thing about CFLs is that they work on a standard socket I run 3+ sockets with multiple splitters plugged into a heavy duty powerbar (splitters are 660w max so I can run 28 23w bulbs or 50 13w bulbs off a single socket (but I don't))

Simply because you have no experience with wiring I cannot advise you to use a HPS or MH light as they both require heavier duty wiring then a simple socket; look it up and go for it just be careful and shut your house power off first =P

For CFLs:
get a hook & clip and hang your sockets by their cords or a support line (with attached splitters and bulbs) above your plants, allowing you to adjust your light hight as necessary with the hook and clip (might need to put in a few eyehooks or something, your job's to figure that part out)
plug in, enjoy.

As for light setup I use 3 splitters to a light like so 
       
                  | <-- socket
                /  \ <-- splitter with 1 light bulb
              /\    /\ <-- splitter with 2 light bulbs

same as other side with 3 bulbs to a side for a total of 6 bulbs per socket.  (or 8850 lumens per socket)

You need:
Seeds
Pots with saucer to catch excess water.
Soil (good compost and/or potting and/or moisture control soil)
Rock or gravel
20.20.20 water soluble fertilizer or your choice of fertilizer
Paper towels
2 Plates
Air fresheners
Heavy duty timer (worth the extra cash instead of regular duty)
Mylar/white posterboard/tinfoil even (for containing, directing, and keeping the light on your plants)
30x or better magnification device
trimming scissors
latex or non-latex surgical gloves (helps keep the resin off your fingers during harvest)
(For CFL lighting):
Sockets
Bulbs
Heavy duty Powerbar
Heavy duty Extension cord

Don't know if I'm forgetting anything

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Ingrimus said:
Damn sir, I haven't even written out this much information for myself.
About anything
Ever.

Y'all owe me grow log pics

Made me feel like I was helping someone out *sniff* ITS SO BEAUTIFUL

let us know how it goes or if you have questions.

if you have a budget let us know.
so do I ;D

The splitters are about 4-5 bucks each and the bulbs are WAY WAY WAY less expensive in the bigger packages
Sockets are about the same price
Wiring and plugs are cheap, but with no experience you might just want to buy pre-assembled sockets with plugs, might cost you 2-3 bucks more each

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Thank you so much for all the help, for the record it was not in vein.. i sat here with a note pad and took notes haha. having said that i have a few final questions

Where did you buy your sockets/bulbs? just a home depot or a lowes?

Do I need a specific size splitter/socket for the 23watt CFL's for everything to work together?

How many gallons should the pot be? not sure how big i should get

Will the mylar seal the closet or is there something that i need to do?

I dont know what compost/potting/moisture control soil's are or what the benefits are of each, which do u think i should use? can i get it at a home depot?

How do i check for woodbugs in the soil? a place will sell u soil with bugs in it!?!?

How much water should i give the plant and how often? (I know when to switch to the 20.20.20 water, no worries there)

So by the diagram u tried to draw describing your lighting i take it your lights are staggered? cuz you plug a splitter into a splitter right?

Lastly, is there any way you could post some pictures of your set up? like how high you keep your lights, what hooks you use to hold them, how far apart you keep the plants etc.


p.s.
Do I remember you saying something about being able to determine male/female plants b4 you put them in a pot? ill read through and see if i can find what i mean.


EDIT: found it

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(optional: peat/compost/newspaper pots to grow seedlings and sex them in before planting (pot and all) in your big pot)

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