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DudeTron
Registered: 10/24/09
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What does this look like to you guys?
#381730 - 03/11/10 05:55 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Just wondering if you guys could help me figure this one out...
I've can't tell if I've got toxic levels of something or deficient...
This girl has been fed about once a week, with 1/4 and 1/8th strength flowering nutes (tiger bloom), a little superthrive and big bloom. Everything always buffered to 6.5.
Flushed two days ago, and it helped a little, but it's still progressing.
She's day 28 into flower.
from the bottom up:
Thanks for any help guys.
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DudeTron
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Re: What does this look like to you guys? [Re: dutc2006]
#382374 - 03/12/10 05:23 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks guys... N actually never occured to me, I just expect once I flip the lights I'm done with N which is silly... I think that's a really good call. I'll probably flush again and replace with light strength grow and bloom.
I've always found that when my soil runs out of its inherent goodies, that I'm always in trouble and can never figure it out.... Maybe it's cause they always run out in flower and I neglect the N so hard!
Yeah I could probably chill on the superthrive a bit too... I hadn't thought of any bad things it could do yet, but not being able to flush it would be enough for me to tone it down. I currently use 1 drop per gal in everything I do, but might just stick to transplants etc, like you mentioned Dutc.
And finally the problem on the upper leaves had been apparent for about a week and a half, and seems to be correcting itself for whatever reason...
Thanks guys, I've got a plan now which is the greatest part about being able to ask dudes for help around here. I'm not just going to be experimenting with my girls ya know?
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DudeTron
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Re: What does this look like to you guys? [Re: dutc2006]
#382709 - 03/12/10 07:23 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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For some reason during this grow I did manage to get some roots poking through the surface... I think it's cause I used jiffy pellets maybe?
Anyway, I added an inch or so to these plants like you mentioned... I agree it feels good like you're giving them a fresh dose of whatever goodies the ocean forest has to offer... Also it got me thinking about dry material top feeding like some people do, watering through a layer of nutes.. I think it's mostly an organic approach though, which is also starting to sound like a good option.
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DudeTron
Registered: 10/24/09
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Re: What does this look like to you guys? [Re: Buddy Guy]
#382831 - 03/12/10 11:22 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Those pictures are all of the same plant...
Thanks for the magnesium vote... I was thinking along the same lines... It seems like my grows so far have all had general Fe, K, magnesium problems. From what I understand these nutes are interrelated. I've tried to fix a similar problem on my other plant with epsom salts and it didn't do anything so I was really open to the N def idea.
At any rate, I flushed and topped off with a low dose of my grow nutes (FF grow big) which does contain Fe and magnesium anyway... I'm a little apprehensive about foliar feeding in general and especially at this stage of bud, but if it gets too much worse (which it still is as of 12 hours from the flush and feed) I'll have to consider it.
So any general ideas as to how I keep going wrong at this stage of the game? All my water is PH balanced, I feed rather lightly with high quality nutes, use fresh quality soil, with a pot-up right before flipping to 12/12... How do these problems happen? Admittedly I could probably flush more often and probably should every 3-4 weeks regardless how my plants look... but still, any words of wisdom?
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DudeTron
Registered: 10/24/09
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Last seen: 11 years, 19 days
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That's a good idea about the test kit... I have seen them around the hardware stores for cheap... They always look a little cheap though too.
Another thing is she's only had about 3 feedings since 12/12, and never more than 1/4 strength... Is it at all possible she's starving for P-K?
I dunno man... She is still getting worse though. I flushed again yesterday and used a little cal-mag, and after the full day cycle I still am not seeing her problem slow down... I was actually thinking it might be time for some real diagnostic equipment... PH, TDS, EC, whatever cause after this I'm really stumped man.
Gotta thank you guys for stickin around and helpin out... I'll get some more pics soon too I'm thinkin.
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DudeTron
Registered: 10/24/09
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Last seen: 11 years, 19 days
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Okay.. so, since I've got your guys attention and you're helpin me so much, here's exactly what she's been fed since flower...
Flipped 12/12 on 2/15
Grow Big Tiger bloom Big bloom
2/28 0 1/2 tsp 1 tbl 3/4 0 1/4 tsp 1 tbl 3/9 0 1/4 tsp 1 tbl Flushed 3/12 1/4 tsp 0 0 Flushed, added Molasses 3/14 0 1/8 tsp 0 Flushed, also 1/2 tsp Cal-mag (1/2 strength)
There may have been a feeding prior to 2/28....
Okay so I know I'm gonna get a little shit for this, but she's in a 1 gallon pot... Hence the frequent feedings, every other watering. When I flush, I usually run 2 gallons of ph balanced water through it, followed by 1 gallon of the light nutrient mix....
Here's something fucking insane I noticed though while I was looking through my notes. I keep track of how many drops of PH buffer juice I use for whatever reason... And while thinking about it, I remember noticing on my label that my PH buffers read 0-0-9.... I've brought this up before and nobody knew what I was talking about and had never heard of such a thing, but I'm starting to wonder if this could be part of my K problem.
Is this shit the culprit after all? Note however that the recommended 1/2 tsp would easily swing the PH like 6 points... I only use 4-12 drops at a time per gallon... And the censor is just cause this stuff is bottled a little TOO locally for advertisement....
Thanks again dudes... I'm about to hit the sack cause I just worked a fuckin 13 hour day... (at least I'm working eh?)
Edited by DudeTron (03/17/10 08:26 PM)
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DudeTron
Registered: 10/24/09
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Last seen: 11 years, 19 days
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Okay.. so I guess I'm going to try a 5 gallon flush. My previous flushes were 3 gal however...
So what would be a good 'light, complete nutrient mix' to flush with? Just the tiger bloom and big bloom maybe?
Would it be worth it for me to go get some clearex or something at this point? Actually, damn I think I might get some anyway now that it popped into my head.
By the way, looking at my feeding schedule again, it really does seem a little excessive... Since I'm using too small of a pot for this plant and watering every 2 days, does that mean I should probably chill a little on the "every other watering" rule and only feed every 3rd watering or more?
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DudeTron
Registered: 10/24/09
Posts: 407
Last seen: 11 years, 19 days
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Right on, I'll definitely be picking some up this friday.
So if you think every 3 days would be fine, why am I having so many problems feeding every 4 or 5 at 1/4 strength?
Man, if a final mega flush + clearex doesn't work I'm going to bomb her with max nutes...
Then if that doesn't work I'm going to fork over for some more sophisticated diagnosis tools.... What kind of meter should I look into for soil? Currently using the GH dropper kit. The only nice thing about it is I'm familiar enough with it I can see a color and know how many drops of PH buffer to add for what I want.
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DudeTron
Registered: 10/24/09
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Last seen: 11 years, 19 days
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Re: What does this look like to you guys? [Re: Fick]
#390240 - 03/26/10 04:16 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Dude... sad story.
I think I was underfeeding her... she was a pretty big girl to be on 1/4 and 1/2 strength doses. When i fed heavily the problems slowed quite a bit...
Sad part is she hermied on me like a cunt... it was pretty bad. Chopped her down last night. I think (wonder/hope) she hermied in part due to this problem she had, and being in such a small container...
Case closed, the shitty way...
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