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 rodfarva
Registered: 04/20/08
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 Re: Building LED Grow Lights - Need your help!  [Re: geokills]
#317605 - 11/17/09 08:48 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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geokills said:
I am interested. In fact, late this past week I received a working 300w prototype built to my own specifications from a manufacturer in China, at about half the cost that comparable US suppliers are asking. It took me about four months, as the first shipment arrived defective. I returned it and the second shipment was also defective - I opened up the unit and found that the one of the voltage converter boards had a broken part likely from impact during shipping. So the third time around, I requested double-boxing and also changed my requested light ratio after researching more on the subject.
I was hoping to already have real world results by this time, but due to all the extra shipping delays I'm only now going to be able to start testing the array in the greenhouse, and since the Thanksgiving holiday is coming up, I may not even get to start that leg of this project until December. We'll see how it goes... I probably won't have a good idea of its relative efficiency with respect to conventional HID light sources for several more months but I finally have my feet wet and I'm getting excited to see what these guys can do! I plan to order a couple more smaller (~150w) arrays with slight variations in the LED wavelength ratios in efforts to determine the most productive combination.
The system itself is pretty straightforward. The LED's are mounted into an aluminum heat sink, with one voltage converter feeding 48 1 watt LED's. Fans are mounted behind the heat sink to dissipate the thermal build up and the whole shabang is placed inside steel housing. I'd wager your best bet on finding relatively inexpensive LED's is to go straight to the factories that produce them in Szhenchen, China.
Could you elaborate on the prices you paid or expect to pay and kind of walk us through how you went about ordering from communists?
How do the panels you ordered, or plan too, theoretically compare with whats commercially available (like 90w ufo light etc?)
What would your applications be for each size/type panel your looking at?
Peace
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rodfarva
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Re: Building LED Grow Lights - Need your help! [Re: Azyle00]
#317851 - 11/18/09 02:33 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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my background is limited at this point, but what im interested in is getting involved in the MM business, as the laws become more defined (michigan.) Where are you at in Cali?
I am friends with a family that has operated a grenhaus and ponics/indoor-gro retail outlet for 20 years. They would in no way right now be interested in co-financing a 20' but times are changing, and the demand for this type of product will produce a boom town out of detroit, trust me.
Their original idea was to grow the pot at their well known place. I thankfully was able to squash that idea this week, pointing out that it would be a good way to get their whole family robed and/or murdered. A grow is still being considered, but now in a safer manor with lots of clever precautions (poison darts, knockout gas, robotic sales people etc...)
My investment potential today is pretty good, but if i dont make a move within a year i wont ever.
Keep us updated on your situation and shit.
My longterm goal is to create a company that would specialize in equipping some zero or low carbon operations.
Home grows will be everywhere in michigan (moreso) and my concept is, combined with the right natural light sources and methods of efficiency, an indoor grow can cheap and effective for personal use. I know im not talking about anything new, but i have some creative ideas all pretty much centered around high efficiency lights.
Talk usually is pointed to high yield covert grows, which i admit i like to talk about the most, however based on the trend that people will have plants in the same place they live for personal use demands simple solutions.
You know, progress to that end will create the most profit anyways. I think the first step is to sell a package that promises all the "tomatoes" you would ever need personally out of a 4x6 area, and less than $100 in new equipment. Not hard to do, but most people wont venture into the world of sitting down and learning- then applying knowledge. Come to the store, get your tomato growing supplies and expert advice. my twist will be that i will create a store that people wont feel any anti-pot dogma- and create a legitimate community of people that will be a referral base. None of this will go over well if you ask people in michigan to spend $500 on a hobby that could be legally questionable. thats my part- im not an expert in anything about growing, but i can sell some chia pet, style shit that will actually work to alot of people here.
once the community of responsible users is mainstream, we will be able to sell plants eventually, and seeds, and even open a dispensary if our movement became powerful enough.
I know all you cali people are prolly laughing at this, but in michigan were at square one and need to push the envelope and follow your example. And maybeeeeee ill make some money without the threat of arrest 
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rodfarva
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Re: Building LED Grow Lights - Need your help! [Re: Magash]
#318546 - 11/19/09 02:48 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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If its going to get better, i think we need to try new ideas out, and perfect using LED's with their current limitations. For people who dont grow weed to make $, i see most of the setups people want to discuss as being entirely to expensive. Maintenance and safety issues make low power LED's attractive to me and many others.
sooner or later a compact self contained led rig that can grow bud should be under $100 (mediocre results.)
I know a lot of people that would buy that.
Thats not to say a combined LED/other light source for $1000 wouldn't be a bad idea either if you want the quality plants and baseball bat sized colas.
Many of the people i hear from that say LED's are bad have never had to pay for their own electricity. If someone reading this doesnt know, i want to point some things out.
In 10 years my electric bill has tripled in price. I can only see it costing more in the future also.
Also in big grows people could reduce their footprint by combining LED panels to lower electric costs and attention associated with the cost.
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rodfarva
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Re: Building LED Grow Lights - Need your help! [Re: Magash]
#318622 - 11/19/09 04:15 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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How are they growing if they don't pay for their electricity?
I dont know anyone who grows weed indoors and hasn't been stealing electricity the whole time... 
The rest of those statements were predicated on a more ideal situation in the future.
Wiring LED's by hobbyists is what brought the current products to the market.
The shit people reading this site (and the blue site) get into is amazing. There are people here capable of innovating. Im not sure if i remember right, but wernt you the guy that colonied pound brick of marijuana with cube myc.?
So, anyways... people like playing with growing. Im interested in LED's, but my next grow might (prolly) be low w HID. I give you props, your the guy to ask if your goal is growing a quality crop + volume. Im not really interested in either. The shittyist bag i can grow poorly is better than most of the weed on the streets in my city.
Its not like cali out here, people who have a lot of weed are selling it. Id'e like that to change i suppose.
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