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How to Make Dry Ice Extraction Hash Discussion. Help Needed!
    #621720 - 05/07/12 09:13 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Supposedly the fastest way to make hash. The best way? That depends on where your priorities are. Dry ice method definitely has some pro's and con's over other extraction methods so here's the breakdown.



Dry Ice is solidified CO2 (the gas we exhale and plants inhale.) It's a super cold substance that "evaporates" (technically sublimates) away into the air as it transforms from a solid to a gas. The fact that it's super cold and converts directly to gas are the clear advantages in the extraction process.

Start with an extraction bag. Most bags will work fine, however; some bags with a PVC coating will flake and chip after a few uses. In this photo we see our lovely assistant using a 5 gallon 200 micron bag.



Micron size can range anywhere from 70-240. In my experience it wasn't worth the time running it through anything below 120 microns. After several extractions we (my team of testers) found 160-220 to be ideal for making a good quantity of good quality hash.



Add your plant material (leafs-buds-stems) and a small amount of crushed up dry ice. Be careful when smashing up your dry ice and read all the safety warning on the dry ice bag before use. Most people add WAY too much dry ice their first time. A loose rule of thumb we found was about 1/2 lbs of dry ice for an OZ of material: More if wet bud - less if super dry leafs. Seal that bag shut to ensure no particles of dry ice or plant matter contaminate your hash.

Now for the fun part. This requires a video demo.

direct link to video for those without flash

As you can see in the video the technique is pretty simple. Shake the bag over a smooth surface for 30-90 seconds. The first shaking (which we will call "runs") will be the highest quality and will be sticky and golden. Gather this first golden stuff by scrapping it with a plastic card.

Repeat the process anywhere from 2-6 times. How many runs you can do depends on the material used and if it's wet or dry. The greener hash you get in the final runs are typically used for cooking. Decarbed a little before baking and mix right into any batter. Sugar cookies and brownies work well and should give you a nice buzz.

The golden hash - I'll let you figure out what that's good for :smile: So what's everyone's experience with dry ice been some far? What do you think?

Edited by compucrap (05/07/12 09:16 AM)

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Re: How to Make Dry Ice Extraction Hash Discussion. Help Needed! [Re: compucrap]
    #622214 - 05/11/12 02:21 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I prefer to use  a water extraction.  I found I got better quality with it.


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Re: How to Make Dry Ice Extraction Hash Discussion. Help Needed! [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #624624 - 05/26/12 08:40 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Anyone know where one can find dry ice in the UK?

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Re: How to Make Dry Ice Extraction Hash Discussion. Help Needed! [Re: compucrap]
    #624650 - 05/26/12 12:35 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Not sure about the UK, but it's usually at grocery stores.


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Re: How to Make Dry Ice Extraction Hash Discussion. Help Needed! [Re: compucrap]
    #626495 - 06/07/12 03:13 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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Sexay :whacker:


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Re: How to Make Dry Ice Extraction Hash Discussion. Help Needed! [Re: sidetwist]
    #626593 - 06/08/12 10:49 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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Sexay :whacker:




HAHA. thanks for the compliment. You should be happy to know that she'll be starting in the next video. Shes my demo girl

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Re: How to Make Dry Ice Extraction Hash Discussion. Help Needed! [Re: compucrap]
    #626622 - 06/08/12 05:09 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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compucrap said:
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Sexay :whacker:




HAHA. thanks for the compliment. You should be happy to know that she'll be starting in the next video. Shes my demo girl




Oh man, haha admit that you chose her so that the guys think
"Oh yeah man, she can shake my bag too :africaface:"

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Re: How to Make Dry Ice Extraction Hash Discussion. Help Needed! [Re: sidetwist]
    #626734 - 06/09/12 10:22 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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compucrap said:








Sexay :whacker:




HAHA. thanks for the compliment. You should be happy to know that she'll be starting in the next video. Shes my demo girl




Oh man, haha admit that you chose her so that the guys think
"Oh yeah man, she can shake my bag too :africaface:"





HAHAHA.... I admit nothing :smile: Shes extremely talented and therefor extremely qualified at bag shaking!

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Re: How to Make Dry Ice Extraction Hash Discussion. Help Needed! [Re: compucrap]
    #626735 - 06/09/12 10:37 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

HAHAHA seems so :awelol: kidding... but she's cute.


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Re: How to Make Dry Ice Extraction Hash Discussion. Help Needed! [Re: sidetwist]
    #627870 - 06/15/12 10:34 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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HAHAHA seems so :awelol: kidding... but she's cute.




Lol. Thanks for the compliments - She is quite flattered. She aspires to be one of the great "stoner girls" someday. Trying to think of a good nickname for her though... Maybe Marylin MonDope? naahhh that's no good.

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Re: How to Make Dry Ice Extraction Hash Discussion. Help Needed! [Re: compucrap]
    #628937 - 06/22/12 10:23 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Got the first user review video submitted. Looks like Ninja is a master of the hash arts.


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Re: How to Make Dry Ice Extraction Hash Discussion. Help Needed! [Re: compucrap]
    #629710 - 06/28/12 04:31 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

i dont think this method gives very good hash. yes its easy but there is a whole lot of plant matter like crappy import hash, and essentially is what your doing(banging buds on a screen). he started with 10 grams of stems and leaves and seeds and it looks like he got at least 3-4 grams of hash. if someone makes full melt using only dry ice ill be a believer. for super wicked buds id say max yield of high quality full melt type is going to be 14-15% prob closer to 10%.

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Re: How to Make Dry Ice Extraction Hash Discussion. Help Needed! [Re: the man]
    #637463 - 09/15/12 11:02 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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i dont think this method gives very good hash. yes its easy but there is a whole lot of plant matter like crappy import hash, and essentially is what your doing(banging buds on a screen). he started with 10 grams of stems and leaves and seeds and it looks like he got at least 3-4 grams of hash. if someone makes full melt using only dry ice ill be a believer. for super wicked buds id say max yield of high quality full melt type is going to be 14-15% prob closer to 10%. 




Very good point. We made up a 150 micron bag to see if it improved quality - It sure did! Went ahead and started producing a 150 micron bag for those looking for a little cleaner powder. What's the smallest practical screen size everyones found so far?
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Re: How to Make Dry Ice Extraction Hash Discussion. Help Needed! [Re: compucrap]
    #637473 - 09/15/12 04:26 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

72.....But the dry ice hash sucks.....I much prefer to use the bags how they're meant to be used.


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Re: How to Make Dry Ice Extraction Hash Discussion. Help Needed! [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #637658 - 09/18/12 03:38 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I am interested what differences you found hawk? does it make fullmelt? or just a dryer more plant matter rich product?

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Re: How to Make Dry Ice Extraction Hash Discussion. Help Needed! [Re: the man]
    #637703 - 09/18/12 01:57 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

True bubble hash, made with ice water extraction, gave me full melt bubble halsh.  This Dry Ice just gives too much plant material.


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Re: How to Make Dry Ice Extraction Hash Discussion. Help Needed! [Re: the man]
    #637716 - 09/18/12 03:49 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

ok coo. as long as you tried it and confirmed. kinda what i thought woul happen.

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Re: How to Make Dry Ice Extraction Hash Discussion. Help Needed! [Re: the man]
    #637922 - 09/21/12 10:14 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Any theory as too why the traditional ice water method yields purer hash? Is the water acting as an additional filtering component?

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Re: How to Make Dry Ice Extraction Hash Discussion. Help Needed! [Re: compucrap]
    #637943 - 09/21/12 08:59 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

no not acting like a filter, but its not busting up and freezing/breaking up plant matter :smile:

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Re: How to Make Dry Ice Extraction Hash Discussion. Help Needed! [Re: the man]
    #638049 - 09/23/12 10:07 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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no not acting like a filter, but its not busting up and freezing/breaking up plant matter :smile:




I see what your saying - gentler is the way to go?

I had heard that it's possible to just freeze your clippings overnight and then shake them (with no dry ice added) in the bag - sort of a twist on the classic hand sifting approach. I'd imagine that'd produce purer hash with less veg - plus no dry ice required.

I'll give it a try in the next couple days and see how it works. Anyone try this method?

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