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New home, new 10'x24' grow room. 4kw Flower, 1kw veg
    #617639 - 04/11/12 11:25 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Hey guys!! After a few months in absence, I'm back with a huge new project to take on! Since I left, I've gotten a full round of girls flowered. My wife and I were VERY happy with the results, but we're sure there's room for improvement. We got a .3 GpW ratio. A little over 2 pounds from 3000 watts of HPS. Definitely a good start for us, but I want to be pulling at least twice that from our second harvest. I'll be starting with 2000 watts, and then increasing to 4000 (maybe more if we can come up with the extra lights).

The room we've got to work with is a carport attached  to the end of our double wide mobile home. I framed in the open end and boarded it up. Had to add a soffit to one side of the building to lock in the light leaks. I'm gonna leave the ceiling open, mainly because framing that in would be an additional 10 sheets of plywood, and I'm already gonna have to buy a few more to finish the walls (I had 18 sheets of 1/2 inch already, so I just need 3 or 4 more). There's also the fact that a few of the rafters, while still structuraly sound, they're too rotted to drill anything into them. I'll just use the makeshift "A"-frame and 10' 4x4 beam I already have.

I'm going to seperate it into 2 different rooms. An 8'x10' section for the veg room, and twice that (16'x10') for the flower room. I'm ALMOST done with the remodel now. I still have to replace the crappy holey door with a heavy security door. Then its on to finishing sealing up all the little light leaks. I've already used 2 cans of expanding foam sealant, and I'm hoping it'll only take one more can. I used a panda film wall to separate the two rooms. I'll be using velcro to make two doors in the panda film. One door will be used on a daily basis, the other will only be used when its time to bring plants out to trim and dry.

Well, I think that's all the ramblings I have for now. I'll have some pics to post soon. Really very excited about this!!! I'm hoping to get things into flower in the next 9 days...


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Re: New home, new 10'x24' grow room. 2kw to start... [Re: KaptKid]
    #618418 - 04/15/12 09:36 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Here ya go guys. Got some pictures taken and uploaded. Here ya guys go!

Here's the door. Snapped one of the door being replaced and one of it as it sits now. I still need to put 2x4's all the way around the frame, but that can wait for the time being.


Here's the front, a few days ago before I got the last panel up.


As you step in the door, the veg room is right there. You can see the wall of b\w poly I installed on the left, and the 8" fresh air intake that will be going through it on the top right.


Here you can see the 6" exhaust fan above the door, along with my medical patient paperwork next to it. There will be a tube going from there to the flower room to exhaust the hot air from that room (it'll need it the most, since it'll be starting with 4,000 watts).


Here's a better shot of the 8" cool air intake. I've just got it hanging down above the plants right now. Once we get the flower room fired up, it'll get slid through the panda film to cool that room.


Here's the flower room. I've actually got a real door separating the two. I had an extra one laying around, and it happened to fit just right! I still need to put up a second side of panda film, but that'll happen sooner or later. lol. Our partner has a bunch of scraps and spare pieces, so it'll get put up soon.


Here's the last pic for the night. Got a shot of my ghetto-fabulous shelves to hold the carbon filter and the ballasts. I wanted to keep them off the ground so I had as much floor space for plants as possible. Plus I'd rather not have cords on the floor where someone could possibly trip on them and damage plants or equipment with a fall.




So that's it guys! I'm super stoked for this grow. I've been working towards this exact thing for years now! We're gonna run soil for the first harvest or two (our partner has several girls that are ready to flower immediately), and then phase it out, replacing it with our hydro system. In the next couple of days, we'll be cutting some clones to start our first hydro run. I'll start a grow log to track the progress once we get the 4kw room lit up and running.


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Re: New home, new 10'x24' grow room. 2kw to start... [Re: Farmer Joe]
    #618478 - 04/16/12 10:10 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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very spacious room you've got there :thumbup:

what you runnin for strains?




thanks man! I've got 160. Sq feet in the flower room I can work with! To start with, we're gonna have Maui, Tragic winter (a cross between purple trainwreck and white frost), Afgooey and then Master Kush.


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Re: New home, new 10'x24' grow room. 2kw to start... [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #618496 - 04/16/12 11:52 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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what I would do for that space!  G.L!!




Man, I hear ya! The best part is I'm only paying $500 a month plus half the electric bill. The whole house only costs $1000 a month, and our partner is paying half of the bills (for 40% of the crop).

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Tragic winter (a cross between purple trainwreck and white frost).





Oh fuck me that sounds good.

So much want.




I know, right?? Its our partner's strain, and he's REALLY protective of it... I'm excited to see how it comes out.


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Re: New home, new 10'x24' grow room. 2kw to start... [Re: bmac420]
    #618535 - 04/16/12 01:57 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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what I would do for that space!  G.L!!




Man, I hear ya! The best part is I'm only paying $500 a month plus half the electric bill. The whole house only costs $1000 a month, and our partner is paying half of the bills (for 40% of the crop).



how many you plan to grow?




Well, we have a maximum of 45 plants we can have, but I doubt we'll have that many. Right now, we've got a large Maui in a 5 gallon pot, a Tragic Winter in a 2.5 gallon pot, and 10 Afgooeys in small 6" square. Pots in a 1'x3' flood table we've got. These will all go into flower on Friday, along with a few more large afgooeys in 5 gallon pots our partner is gonna bring up tonight or tomorrow.  Today we just cut 15 new clones off the Tragic Winter, and we're gonna pop a femmed Master Kush seed here in the next week for the next cycle.

So, we'll have 30 for now, half in veg and half in flower. And once we start to finish up the first round, we'll cut MK clones...


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Re: New home, new 10'x24' grow room. 2kw to start... [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #618543 - 04/16/12 02:07 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Tank333 said:
Tragic winter (a cross between purple trainwreck and white frost).





Oh fuck me that sounds good.

So much want.




I know, right?? Its our partner's strain, and he's REALLY protective of it... I'm excited to see how it comes out.






I hate it when growers are "protective" of genetics.  It's fucking stupid.




Yea, I agree. There's a lot about this guy's practices that I don't agree with, but honestly, I'm using him for the $$. 12 months, then we'll split ways,  and it'll be all our profit instead of sharing it with him... But then, it is his very first strain he bred...


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Re: New home, new 10'x24' grow room. 2kw to start... [Re: Tank333]
    #618580 - 04/16/12 05:07 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Yea, he should... But he's not really the most kharmically balanced person ever. He's always happy to find a new patient that doesn't know that the avarage price for an ounce of indoor in Seattle is around $175. He hates getting less than 250 an o... that just doesn't set well with me, you know?


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Re: New home, new 10'x24' grow room. 2kw to start... [Re: shagdawg420]
    #618595 - 04/16/12 07:21 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Yea, that's why I'm trying to figure out how to get some to my sister. She's in a college town in Oklahoma. Non medical states always have high prices! Lol

Such is the problem of growing in a medical state. Its the price you pay for comparative safety, I suppose. Lol


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Re: New home, new 10'x24' grow room. 2kw to start... [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #619842 - 04/23/12 10:28 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Hey guys! Time for an update... sorry its been so long. This weekend has been so busy. Saturday morning my wife's water broke, and so I've been sitting in the hospital since. Labor's going really long. We're at about 50 hours now, and things are looging fine. No signs of infection, no stress on the baby ye. She's just taking FOREVER to get completely effaced and dialated.

So, here's some pictures of our other girls!

This is the tray of clones we cut last week on Tuesday. I'm REALLY hoping they'll be okay, because I haven't been able to really check em for 2 days now. These girls are all Tragic Winter clones.


And here's a few shots of the other 4 girls in the flower room. Man, I just hope I can get home before they start wilting. I've got my dad at home turning the lights on and off, but he's just too old a fogie to mix up nutes for me and get thigs watered.




So, that's what I've got guys. Its kind of a small update, but I've been pretty busy with everything else the past couple days. Haha!!


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Re: New home, new 10'x24' grow room. 2kw to start... [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #619876 - 04/23/12 03:34 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Yea, I hope so too. When I left on Saturday, they were pretty well soaked still, so I'm hoping they'll be okay. My dad was at the house flipping the lights for me, and he was supposed to check on them this morning. I guess I'll find out when I get home if he remembered... lol


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Re: New home, new 10'x24' grow room. 2kw to start... [Re: bmac420]
    #619909 - 04/23/12 05:42 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Congrats on the newborn man!  Hope pops took care of ya while you were out!



Yea, me too man. I'll be really frustrated if I come home to a second batch of fucked off clones. The whole reason we're flowering the afgooey clones we had is because when I got laid off about a month ago, I forgot to check on them for 4 days straight. They all got hella stunted and they still haven't recovered. Lol


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Re: New home, new 10'x24' grow room. 2kw to start... [Re: Tank333]
    #621900 - 05/08/12 10:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

So, I'm having problems with heat... we've got a total of 5kw now, 4 HPS in flower and 1 MH in veg going 24/7.  The lights are on from 9pm to 9am, but its still getting too hot in there. Last night it was getting up into the high eighties and low nineties.

I'm gonna try running a tube of outside air through the veg room and into the flower room.unfortunately,  the back wall of the veg room is the only place I feel comfortable putting holes in, since its facing the back of my property.


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Re: New home, new 10'x24' grow room. 2kw to start... [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #621960 - 05/09/12 10:48 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Wait, do you not have fresh air intake already? What's the CFM rating for your fan and how many feet of ducting is it pulling through?




I've had passive intake the whole time, its not 100% sealed up around the edges, so fresh air would come in under the walls from outside. But, when I lit up the 1k in the veg room (I had the 4' T-8 light in there before), it just made the whole place too hot.

I've got a 6" inline fan with a 425 CFM rating blowing hot air out. I don't have it hooked up to the carbon scrubber yet because the smell is still pretty faint. I also added a 125 CFM inline booster fan that's attached to one of the hoods, to pull fresh air in from the intake hole.

Its pretty ghetto at the moment, but last night the temps didn't get above 81. As for the length of tubing, there's 8' across the veg room, 9' from the barrier to the end of the last hood. 3.5' between the two rows, and another 7' from the end of the row to the front where the last hood vents into the room. So I would call it 28' of tubing, total, with 3 ~25° curves, and 2 90° curves.

I'll add some pictures soon...

And here's the pics!

On the end of the far hood you can see the booster fan attached to the hood.


Here's a shot of the veg room with the tube going across it.


This is my little 1'x3' flood table SOG. They're doing pretty well, considering everything they went through...


And this is just a random shot of the girls in flower.

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Re: New home, new 10'x24' grow room. 2kw to start... [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #622051 - 05/09/12 11:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yea, you're very right, Harry. My ventilation is woefully inadequate... But I just don't have a larger fan to use at the moment, and I'm broker than broke...

I'm going to appeal to our partner for more equipment, but that's like pulling teeth from a vampire, so I doubt it'll go anywhere... he'll probably give me a couple of floor fans or some oscillators that he's already got, but he probably won't fork out for a good fan...

On top of THAT, we're running out of three of our nutes, and that's gonna be another $45 each to replace those... Oh, and did I mention my dad broke his $80 bluelab temp/ph meter when he was watching the plants for me?

I'm hoping he'll have enough product to just do a bridge loan until harvest, and we pay him back 1.25x what he put out for it... IF he'll give us a qp, I'll give him 5 when we harvest out of my portion. That seems fair to me at least...


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Re: New home, new 10'x24' grow room. 2kw to start... [Re: Tank333]
    #623867 - 05/21/12 11:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

So... going through the girls tonight, I found some nanners on the Tragic Winter girl... :frown: out she came and into the closet for 2 days of light depravation.



Then I called my partner to let him know that the girl's comin' out early, and guess what he said?? "OH, go ahead and leave her in there! She won't give the other girls seeds!"


Really man?!?!?!


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Re: New home, new 10'x24' grow room. 2kw to start... [Re: Tank333]
    #624310 - 05/24/12 07:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Gah, I'm so fucking pissed at my partner right now. I've been trimming this damn plant off and on all day, and I just keep getting more and more frustrated at it as I find seed after seed in her...

As soon as this cycle of his genetics are through my system, I'm never touching his plants again! I just put 2 of my Master Kush seeds into a wet paper towel, and we're gonna see how quick I can get a batch of clones off em...


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Re: New home, new 10'x24' grow room. 2kw to start... [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #624327 - 05/24/12 08:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Bummer.




Hey, its what happens when I trust other people too much...


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Re: New home, new 10'x24' grow room. 2kw to start... [Re: Farmer Joe]
    #624404 - 05/25/12 07:28 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I hope so too!


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Re: New home, new 10'x24' grow room. 2kw to start... [Re: Tank333]
    #625589 - 06/01/12 10:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

So, I've decided I need to do some remodeling in the grow room to account for the need for air conditioning. My landlord won't let me permanently modify the existing structures (everything has been installed with screws so he can take it down), so I have to do a little bit of MacGuyvering to make things work...

My dad gave me two AC units so I'm going to get them installed right away to work on my heat problems...

I'm going to scoot my girls to the far end of the flower room and put up a wall to make the flower room a bit smaller, 10x10 instead of 10x16. Having a small room in between the veg room and the flower room will give me space to keep spare equipment, the chest freezer chiller and the rez's out of the way of the plants. I'll also be able to vent the larger of the two AC units into this space, and vent the heat from that room out the side (I can just remove  the temporary board I put up as a wall, and that'll let things vent outside).

The second, smaller AC unit will go in the veg room. There's a window hole in the wall that I just covered up with plywood. I can simply cut out a hole, stick it in and seal it up. I'll have that done by the end of the day tomorrow. I'll try and remember to snap some before and after pics to post for ya...

I still have to get the condenser coil from my dad so I can make the DIY chiller. My aunt and uncle went to their shed to try and find it for me (it's a 4 hour drive and they were going that way anyways), but all they could find was a small coil of 3/8" copper tubing. No where near enough for my 50 gallon rez. It might work for the small 1'x3' flood table I have though, so I'm keeping it. That little thing only has a 5 gallon rez, so I figure it wouldn't be as tough to keep cool as a 50 gallon one...


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Re: New home, new 10'x24' grow room. 2kw to start... [Re: Tim]
    #627033 - 06/11/12 12:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

So,  things are going well, I suppose. I'm pulling the first of the 4 large girls and trimming her now... its a bit early still,  but she's gotta pay rent on the 1st, so she's gotta come out and get chopped up...

I'm a bit undecided as to whether or not I'm going to build the third room in there now though. After installing just the single 5000 BTU AC unit,  it's dropped temps in there considerably... Like right now, its sunny and warm out, and the lights have been off for 2 and a half hours... its 71 degrees in the flower room,  and it'll probably get a bit warmer as the day goes on...

I know I need to put the 12,000 btu unit in there, I'm just trying to figure out the best way to do so... As soon as I get this girl stripped naked, I'll throw together a diagram of how the place is laid out, and see what people think I should do...

For now, here's a few pics... I threw together some scrog's for the girls in veg, I just gotta string them.


The 6 girls that were in 2.5 gallon pots got transplanted into 5 gallon pots. Give em a few days to recover, and they're going into the flower room to replace the girls that are coming out.


Here's the Maui that's getting stripped today. We started on her last night, but didn't get too far. My goal is to finish her by 4:20...


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