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 phrostbyte
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 Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds)  [Re: magick81]
#596232 - 11/08/11 08:42 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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magick81 said:
It's probably a combination of the pot upgrade, and the upgrade to coco, but I cannot believe how they are doing now! The stems are starting to get thicker, I will probably start training soon. If planning to scrog should I bother with LST? Since they basically are the same thing anyways. When should I add the screen?
The smell is getting stronger so I'll be buying my carbon filter tomorrow (still cant smell it at the exhaust vent, but its better safe than sorry)
Here's some porn for you. Unfortunately, I mixed some of the plants up so they now have new numbers. This is number 3 (previously number 1) the tallest sativa looking one. I think she's my fave lol
the sick crispy plant. Nute overload lols. Must be more sensitive than the others as they all get watered the same. Other have very slight curling which I don't think is a problem.
I'm thinking I should flush this one with plain PH'ed water. Or maybe a weaker nute solution?
Should I wait for it to dry up first? It doesn't matter when you flush does it?
From your pics it looks like they have heat stress... If you look the leaves are curling inward around the edges.... Otherwise It seems a bit yellow tinted but doesn't really look all that bad... Your light is to close your your temps are too high.... More airflow and or raise the lights to lower your temps....
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magick81
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: phrostbyte]
#596258 - 11/09/11 02:10 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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I raised my lights the other day, but after reading your post decided to raise it a little more.
We have had some stinking hot days lately, although summer is due in a month so i guess thats normal. Tomorrow's payday. I was going to buy a carbon filter, but the smell is still ok. I check my exhaust everyday and I still can't smell them through the exhaust. I think I will buy a cooltube instead, and just get the carbon filter next week.
When summer does hit, I may look at getting an aircon for that room, although due to the cost of power today, I would like to avoid it if i can.
Cheers
MagickZX
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Edited by magick81 (11/09/11 02:12 AM)
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
#596317 - 11/09/11 04:17 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yea no need to be running a carbon filter yet...
Keep it up!
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phrostbyte
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
#596353 - 11/09/11 08:44 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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magick81 said:
I raised my lights the other day, but after reading your post decided to raise it a little more.
We have had some stinking hot days lately, although summer is due in a month so i guess thats normal. Tomorrow's payday. I was going to buy a carbon filter, but the smell is still ok. I check my exhaust everyday and I still can't smell them through the exhaust. I think I will buy a cooltube instead, and just get the carbon filter next week.
When summer does hit, I may look at getting an aircon for that room, although due to the cost of power today, I would like to avoid it if i can.
Cheers
MagickZX
The cooltube is a really good idea if you live in a place where its warm... I wish summer was just around the corner here... Winter is just around the corner for me 
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magick81
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: phrostbyte]
#596405 - 11/10/11 06:29 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Got my cooltube today, as well as a water pump to put in my tub that i store my water/nute solution when i have leftovers.
Anyways, I need some help with the cooltube.
Both ends are open. Should I Attach ducting to both ends? Or can I put a cap over one end and punch a few holes in it?
Also, there are all these parts that I have no idea what they are lol.
Pics below
The Cooltube
A couple weird looking round brackets and some screws, nuts and washers. Have no idea where the brackets go or what their for, can't find any screw holes that line up???
These look like a couple reflector wings, but again, I have no idea where they go 
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1. Fighting 2. Fleeing 3. Feeding and ...4. Mating
My Current Grow. Killing Fields & Heavy Duty Fruity!!!
My Grow Journal. First Grow EVER!!!!
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
#596447 - 11/10/11 10:44 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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What you need to do:
1. Connect ducting to one side of your cool tube
2. Connect your fan to the ducting with a metal bracket that can be tightened with a Flathead screwdriver.
****(the fan can be inside the ten or out side of the tent)*****
3. Attach another piece of ducting to the fan so that the air being pulled out of the tent can be transferred to another room or out a window.
Cooltube setup:
1. The brackets might be fore hanging the cooltube? Are there any hooks on the top to hang it?
2. Use the screws/washers/bolts you have with the round brackets to install the reflector wings by screwing them into the top of the light where there are two sets of parallel holes.
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
#596465 - 11/10/11 12:54 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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magick81 said:
A couple weird looking round brackets and some screws, nuts and washers. Have no idea where the brackets go or what their for, can't find any screw holes that line up???
These look like a couple reflector wings, but again, I have no idea where they go
it looks like you put the brackets on the cooltube as i cannot see holes other than to attach the reflectors in the brackets i would assume they sorta snap on over the top of the tube, then use the 4 screws,nuts and washers to attach the wings to the brackets... you can probably assembly the reflector wings to the brackets first and then snap it over the cooltube, didn't they give u instructions?? LOL
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magick81
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
#596507 - 11/10/11 09:18 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks Mushroomman420 & HempMaster.
Got it all hooked up in less than half an hour. Unfortunately, I was being a hero and told my wife "I don't need to turn the fan off, only an idiot would stick his hand up the fan".
And here is the result, lololol
Being a centrifugal fan, I'm surprised that I didn't break my finger!
I turned the fan off and continued hooking up the new light system with one and a half hands lol, my wife looking at me and shaking her head, lols
Anyways, its all done now, and I will remember to never do anything like that again
On a happier note, I picked up my first attitude order from the post pffice today 
10 Heavy Duty Fruity seeds by T.H. Seeds
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In the human brain, the hypothalamus controls the four f's:
1. Fighting 2. Fleeing 3. Feeding and ...4. Mating
My Current Grow. Killing Fields & Heavy Duty Fruity!!!
My Grow Journal. First Grow EVER!!!!
Edited by magick81 (11/10/11 09:20 PM)
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magick81
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
#596512 - 11/10/11 09:29 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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In the human brain, the hypothalamus controls the four f's:
1. Fighting 2. Fleeing 3. Feeding and ...4. Mating
My Current Grow. Killing Fields & Heavy Duty Fruity!!!
My Grow Journal. First Grow EVER!!!!
Edited by magick81 (11/10/11 09:38 PM)
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magick81
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
#596516 - 11/10/11 09:48 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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I also purchased a Carbon Filter.
Box says Genuine Mountain Air. Cost me $190.
Anyways, opened the box when i got home, the thing looks massive lol
I told him I had 400w lights and a 150mm centrifugal and this is the one he chose for me. Was he just trying to sell me the most expensive model he could? Because he is usually pretty good, giving me discounts and shit.
Anyways, he said this would last me at least 3 yrs which is a good thing.
I've got my exhaust going to the window. Can I connect it at that end? Or will it have to go in somewhere inside the tent?
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In the human brain, the hypothalamus controls the four f's:
1. Fighting 2. Fleeing 3. Feeding and ...4. Mating
My Current Grow. Killing Fields & Heavy Duty Fruity!!!
My Grow Journal. First Grow EVER!!!!
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
#596518 - 11/10/11 09:55 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Inside the tent as close to the top as possible.
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magick81
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: Stoneth]
#596520 - 11/10/11 10:40 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ok thanks.
I have an extra piece of ducting that came with the wall vent I had. It was only 1ft long, bu i kept it anyway knowing it would come in handy lol.
Now I'm wondering which end of the fan it should be connected to, the intake or the exhaust.
Is it pushing the air through the carbon filter, or pulling the air through. I remember reading one way was better than the other but i cannot find it, lol
Anyways, I just watered them after letting the coco dry out.
Fed with 5.6PH, 1.5EC nute solution.
They are growing so fast and really do seem to like the coco
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In the human brain, the hypothalamus controls the four f's:
1. Fighting 2. Fleeing 3. Feeding and ...4. Mating
My Current Grow. Killing Fields & Heavy Duty Fruity!!!
My Grow Journal. First Grow EVER!!!!
Edited by magick81 (11/10/11 10:47 PM)
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
#596523 - 11/10/11 11:47 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Filter goes on the intake side of the fan.
They are made to pull thru, not push.
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
#596531 - 11/11/11 01:06 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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magick81 said:
Don't forget to pull the blue film from the reflector if you didn't already. It will melt.
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magick81
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: phrostbyte]
#596533 - 11/11/11 01:49 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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yep thanks. I pulled it off after reading your post. I changed things around a little though. I put the ducting on the other side so its closer to the fan and i don't have any sharp bends in the ducting. So I'll have to remove the ducting when i wanna change the bulb. Other end is left open. I will probably have a go at installing the carbon filter after the weekend, hopefully my left hand will be more usable then, lol
I am wondering if I should:
a) Connect this monster carbon filter between my cooltube and centrifugal fan?
or
b) Put another piece of ducting on the other side of the cooltube going out of the tent. And connecting the carbon filter to another fan (one i'll obviously have to buy, omg i cant believe how much much over my grow budget i am, lols)
 
After hooking up an extra 3meters of ducting and the cooltube, the air pressure out the exhaust feels lower. Maybe its just in my head, but im thinking maybe this fan isn't powerful enough to hook both products up to it....
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In the human brain, the hypothalamus controls the four f's:
1. Fighting 2. Fleeing 3. Feeding and ...4. Mating
My Current Grow. Killing Fields & Heavy Duty Fruity!!!
My Grow Journal. First Grow EVER!!!!
Edited by magick81 (11/11/11 02:02 AM)
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
#596538 - 11/11/11 06:44 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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magick81 said:
yep thanks. I pulled it off after reading your post. I changed things around a little though. I put the ducting on the other side so its closer to the fan and i don't have any sharp bends in the ducting. So I'll have to remove the ducting when i wanna change the bulb. Other end is left open. I will probably have a go at installing the carbon filter after the weekend, hopefully my left hand will be more usable then, lol
I am wondering if I should:
a) Connect this monster carbon filter between my cooltube and centrifugal fan?
the carbon filter has to be at the start of the exhaust, So run some ducting from the carbon filter to one end of the cool tube then just keep it the way u already have it. so the air gets pulled through the filter, then cooltube, then vented out.
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magick81
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
#596539 - 11/11/11 07:20 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks HempMaster,
I was dreading the cost of another fan, lols
I'll probably put it up some time this week. I'm just wondering how the hell I'm gonna suspend it. Its a big heavy bastard! Some more yoyo's maybe?
After that I can say that my growroom is truly finished. Probably get a magnetic ballast when budget allows. Maybe even upgrade the lights before flower. Is my cooltube big enough for a 600w do you think? I dont wanna have to buy another one lol
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In the human brain, the hypothalamus controls the four f's:
1. Fighting 2. Fleeing 3. Feeding and ...4. Mating
My Current Grow. Killing Fields & Heavy Duty Fruity!!!
My Grow Journal. First Grow EVER!!!!
Edited by magick81 (11/11/11 07:23 AM)
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HempMaster
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
#596556 - 11/11/11 09:19 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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magick81 said:
Thanks HempMaster,
I was dreading the cost of another fan, lols
I'll probably put it up some time this week. I'm just wondering how the hell I'm gonna suspend it. Its a big heavy bastard! Some more yoyo's maybe?
After that I can say that my growroom is truly finished. Probably get a magnetic ballast when budget allows. Maybe even upgrade the lights before flower. Is my cooltube big enough for a 600w do you think? I dont wanna have to buy another one lol
I use nylon straps to hold my filter up, but any good rope will do. As for a new ballast, get a lumatek digital, or one similar, that way u can use both MH and HPS bulbs, as u will notice much faster vedge growth with a MH bulb. the 600w bulbs aren't a whole lot bigger so u should be fine with u'r current cool tube, though i would look into it just to be sure.
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
#596644 - 11/11/11 06:31 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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I use bungee cords told hold up my carbon filter.... there a few bucks each
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magick81
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: phrostbyte]
#596672 - 11/12/11 05:26 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Another photo update.
The plants have been in coco for 1 week tomorrow. There are 2 plants that I am thinking of culling (plants 2 & 5). 1 more on the border and 2 that I think are doing well (plant 1 & 3).
So here they are.
Plant 1
Plant 2
Plant 3
Plant 4
Plant 5
Plants 2 and 5 are looking all twisted, so I think i will cull them if they dont get any better by flowering.
Checked my temps today as it was another hot one. To my dismay, temps were still reaching 31oC. I think that maybe there are too many vents open (this tent has intake vents all over it!) I might try closing some up to try and get a proper air flow going on in there (God bless duct tape) and leave only 1 or 2 open.
Till I get that done, I have raised the lights a little, as i think thats why the plants are all twisting.
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In the human brain, the hypothalamus controls the four f's:
1. Fighting 2. Fleeing 3. Feeding and ...4. Mating
My Current Grow. Killing Fields & Heavy Duty Fruity!!!
My Grow Journal. First Grow EVER!!!!
Edited by magick81 (11/12/11 05:35 AM)
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