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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #591696 - 10/11/11 10:40 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Yes, I did notice that when I first planted the seeds, the soil was full to the rim, and now it is so much lower.
So I filled the pots back up to around the rim again.
Also, yesterday I noticed all the plants were showing signs of growing their 2nd set of leaves! Exciting, lol

I broke out the good digicam to try and take some macro shots.
Im not a very good photographer, lol, so it may be a little hard to see. Its real obvious if you zoom in a little though



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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #591697 - 10/11/11 10:46 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)




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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #591698 - 10/11/11 11:15 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I do a lot of photography, try increasing your f stop so that you have depth of field. Also focus a little further in on the plant.

Great grow, can't wait to see what comes of this. Also kinda racing you to see how our plants compare as we grow them.


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: wire5]
    #591928 - 10/13/11 12:17 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Tried to get some better pics of the new leaf sites today.
Wire5, I have no idea what that means, lol, I've just got a point-n-shoot camera



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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #591930 - 10/13/11 12:24 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Sorry, when you said fancy camera I got excited and started spouting camera talk.

Basically it means make the hole on the end of the lens (the iris) smaller so it has a higher depth of field (more stuff will be in focus, but requires more light).

My plants look like they are almost exactly on par with yours. What day are you at?

Cant wait to see how they compare side by side. How long do you intend to veg for?


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I've been working with power tools since I was 8, my dad is an electrical engineer who owned a 280 gal fish tank, and I studied biology with a specialty in genetics. Getting dirty comes naturally. I think my parents inadvertently trained me to be a weed grower.

See what you think on my first try.

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #591933 - 10/13/11 12:43 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Lols, I said it like that, since all my posts up unto now were taken with my iphone. I find it easier to upload and share pics on the iphone via photobucket app. Although I've got a Olympus fe4030 which takes much better pics.

Sorry, I have no idea how many days they are at, lol
Are you counting days from when germination started? Or when they sprouted? Dropped seed pods? First one broke soil on October 2nd so I guess that would put them at day 11?

I'm probably gonna veg for 1 month once they are put under the lights in the tent, picking up my tent tomorrow :laugh:


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #591961 - 10/13/11 07:12 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

well those pics came out well man!

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: Pernicious]
    #591965 - 10/13/11 07:57 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks Pernicious :laugh:
I love my Olympus. Got it last year for $89 on sale, down from $196. HALF PRICE! Couldn't believe my luck! Prices stayed down so looks like I got it as the prices fell, making way for the newer models :smile:
Got it to take macro shots of my reptiles, though it hasnt gotten much use lately.

I love good photography, and would love to get into the hobby if I could just afford the equipment lol


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My Grow Journal. First Grow EVER!!!!

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #591982 - 10/13/11 10:36 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Ahh, what kind of camera exactly? Power shot (or is that cannons LOL)

Regardless for a point and shot you have some really nice clarity.

On your shoot mode type wheel do you see something that just says "A"?


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I've been working with power tools since I was 8, my dad is an electrical engineer who owned a 280 gal fish tank, and I studied biology with a specialty in genetics. Getting dirty comes naturally. I think my parents inadvertently trained me to be a weed grower.

See what you think on my first try.

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: wire5]
    #591996 - 10/13/11 11:22 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Nope, no "A" on it.
Here's a link to some info on my camera model
http://www.digitalcamerawarehouse.com.au/prod2109.htm
Scroll down to the bottom past all the bs for the specs


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My Current Grow. Killing Fields & Heavy Duty Fruity!!!
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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #592097 - 10/13/11 10:51 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Just picked up my grow tent. Yippee!
It's all finally starting to come together :laugh:

I was able to find a 4x4 mylar tent that is:
a) cheap. Got it for $139
b) Close by. Freight company wanted $45 due to its size and weight. Chucked it in a taxi instead and only cost me $15 and doesn't take 2 working days to deliver, haha, Cheerin! (If I got it posted I wouldn't see it till monday at the absolute earliest)

So its Win/Win!

Anyways, opened it up and saw all the pieces and thought "Fuck it!" I can't be buggered to do it today. I'll get my mate over, order some pizza, get some beers and make a night of it, lol

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #592103 - 10/13/11 11:19 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

The lens is a little slow for how wide it is. But otherwise not bad. I bet there is an aperture priority mode... Might be admitably a bitch to set up.

Can't wait to see the tent. I thought the same thing about B+W poly and putting the tarp up, and getting the damn foxfarm. I might just go with farfield.


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I've been working with power tools since I was 8, my dad is an electrical engineer who owned a 280 gal fish tank, and I studied biology with a specialty in genetics. Getting dirty comes naturally. I think my parents inadvertently trained me to be a weed grower.

See what you think on my first try.

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #592118 - 10/14/11 12:42 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Well its heaps easy to use, with alot of auto-features although I like to turn most of em off unless i know what they do lol
What I was looking for was something that took good macro shots.
And this is what the guy gave me for in my price range. Mind you he was no camera expert. He was a salesman at JB Hifi lol, so he probably had no idea either lol

Just a quick question: When should I start thinking about transplanting to bigger pots. Because the ones they're in are pretty small.
I plan to add 1 part perlite and 3 parts soil.

Thinking about also swapping soil for something finer, as a few people have commented that my soil looks "chunky" lols, any tips on what I should be looking for? If there are any aussies out there, some brand names that are available locally would be good.
Also, what size pot do you guys recommend I transplant into so I won't have to transplant them again? Something to last the rest of their lives.

On another note, not looking forward to putting this tent up, lols, so many pieces lol....


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: wire5]
    #592120 - 10/14/11 12:54 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Finally got the tent together :laugh:
Centrifugal fan sits perfectly into one of the exhaust ports on the roof.

Whats the best way to hang my lights? I got about 3 meters of hanging chain but haven't got a tool to cut it, lol
Can I get a light hanging kit from the hydro shop?


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #592507 - 10/17/11 02:26 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Got my tent all setup :laugh:
Hung the lights with chains and keyrings lol, at a height of 4ft
Got my 150mm centrifugal fan over one of the exhausts in the roof, covered the other roof exhaust up.
Only thing is the bloody exhaust is loud! Tomorrow, I am gonna run some ducting from the exhaust to the ceiling, hopefully that should make it much quieter and keep the room a little cooler.
I got the tent sitting at 2-3 degrees celcius above the room temp.


Gonna chuck my plants in tomorrow after I finish ducting the exhaust into the roof :smile: Hoping to see a growth spurt after I do, as they are only getting around 14hours of sunlight per day at the moment.

Glad its all coming together finally :laugh:


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #592526 - 10/17/11 10:12 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

magick81 said:
Got my tent all setup :laugh:
Hung the lights with chains and keyrings lol, at a height of 4ft
Got my 150mm centrifugal fan over one of the exhausts in the roof, covered the other roof exhaust up.
Only thing is the bloody exhaust is loud! Tomorrow, I am gonna run some ducting from the exhaust to the ceiling, hopefully that should make it much quieter and keep the room a little cooler.
I got the tent sitting at 2-3 degrees celcius above the room temp.


Gonna chuck my plants in tomorrow after I finish ducting the exhaust into the roof :smile: Hoping to see a growth spurt after I do, as they are only getting around 14hours of sunlight per day at the moment.

Glad its all coming together finally :laugh:




Nice work man, lookin good! Is you ballast digital or magnetic? since u really should use a MH to vedge the plants with and most digital ballast i've seen run both HPS and MH bulbs... also if your using a 400w bulb it shouldn't be higher than about 15-20 inchs from the plant, less if temps aren't an issue. your should get yourself a pair of these light hangers, i got some they work great makes adjusting the height real easy, this link is a canadian hydro store, but i'm sure you can find them in any decent hydro shop local to you. http://www.progressive-growth.com/proddetail.php?prod=sunlift


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #592610 - 10/17/11 09:04 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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also if your using a 400w bulb it shouldn't be higher than about 15-20 inchs from the plant,





recommended distance from the plant on a 400w hps or mh is 4 ft because of the heat it gives out.

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should get yourself a pair of these light hangers





These are a great idea!  I like these ones better though.

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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: phrostbyte]
    #592619 - 10/17/11 09:50 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

phrostbyte said:
Quote:

HempMaster said:
also if your using a 400w bulb it shouldn't be higher than about 15-20 inchs from the plant,





recommended distance from the plant on a 400w hps or mh is 4 ft because of the heat it gives out.

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HempMaster said:
should get yourself a pair of these light hangers





These are a great idea!  I like these ones better though.




Well that may be the recommended distance, doesn't mean its right LOL you can put your hand 6 inch's away from a 400w and not get too hot. i will say i'm using an air cooled refelctor, but when i did my first tent grow i had 2 non air cooled 400w hps bulbs and they where never higher than 20 inchs from the tops of the plants. and with proper air movement your babies won't get burned. I found the only real problem was the ambient temp in my tent.(which had nothing to do with distance to your plants) thats why i went to a 1000w air cooled. right now my 1000w dual arc bulb is 1 1/2 feet from my plants and they are more than happy, but again its in a air cooled refelctor... 

I saw those hangers at my local grow store along with the ones i bought, i liked the ones i got better as they don't require more than one hand to adjust the refectors height, those you listed need to be manually set, the ones i listed are spring loaded. But thats a matter of prefrence, they both do the job and yours are cheaper lol


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: HempMaster]
    #592633 - 10/17/11 11:23 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I got myself a set of yoyo's to hang my lights from. I love how easy they are to adjust. Just lower or raise the lights. Like magick! :laugh:

Anyways, I've got them about 20 inches from the tops of my plants. Gonna keep a close eye on it and monitor temps. What should be the max temp at the plants level? I set a temp probe between 2 pots so the probe is sticking up in the air. It's at 29 degrees celcius at the moment, although I'm keeping an eye on it in case it goes much higher.

So whats the max temp I should get at plant level?


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Re: Indoor 400w HPS Soil - Chemdog (Greenhouse seeds) [Re: magick81]
    #592634 - 10/17/11 11:24 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)



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In the human brain, the hypothalamus controls the four f's:
1. Fighting 2. Fleeing 3. Feeding and ...4. Mating


My Current Grow. Killing Fields & Heavy Duty Fruity!!!
My Grow Journal. First Grow EVER!!!!

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