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 81renaissance
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 Re: Pot that wont stay lit.  [Re: iam23]
#589953 - 10/02/11 06:43 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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soooo...not organic at all.
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 Magash
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Re: Pot that wont stay lit. [Re: 81renaissance]
#589972 - 10/02/11 09:03 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Or grow organically and don't flush at all 
First off this isn't true. Organic or not the plants need to be flushed of nutrients.
Then again I use to be into organics and use to hype them here and at the Shroomery then ran a little test and pretty much proved it's a bunch of hype.
I originally posted this 2 years ago when I did the test.
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Ok, I have been growing since the mid 80’s and the entire time I’ve heard how organic bud is better tasting and such. I always felt that this was true just cause when you listen to why it is suppose to be better then buds grown with synthetics or chemical nutrients it seems to make sense. Then I saw this show called bullshit with Penn and Teller and the subject was organic food. I saw the test that they did and I just had to do em with buds.
Well the test was done at 3 different clubs and with a group of growers in Mendocino County. The strain used was Granddaddy Purple.
People were allowed to try free samples of organic grown and buds grown with General Hydroponics nutrients. Flora Nova and Kool Blooms.
Now the samples
2 plates of buds with labels showing but the buds switched. Organic buds in the hydro plate and hydro buds in the organic plate. 2 plates with no labels and the buds were in the right plate. Then for fun (he he he ) two sets of plates one with organic buds in both plates and one with hydro buds in both plates.
The results.
Buds in the right plate but no labels showing 73% of people picked the hydro buds as better tasting and smoking buds.
Buds in the plates with the labels showing but with the buds switched 87% picked the organic side with the hydro buds in the plate. (Even so far as going and saying they can taste the soil then getting very pissed when shown the bud they picked)
Then the same buds divided into two and put into labeled plates. So what I mean here is buds from the same plant put into two plates with different labels to see if anybody would notice. In both sets of plates 87% of people again picked the Organic as better tasting in both sets even though it was the same bud divided into two plates. I heard comments on how the organic tasted “earthy cleaner, less salty, and one who insisted that the organic buds burnt better then got pissed when told he picked hydro in every instance.
Both sets of buds were flushed for one week before harvesting.
Conclusion is that properly grown hydro buds seems to be as good in every way as organic buds.
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Re: Pot that wont stay lit. [Re: Magash]
#589976 - 10/02/11 09:14 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks for setting that straight
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Re: Pot that wont stay lit. [Re: ninja cat 09]
#589979 - 10/02/11 09:28 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Actually, now that I think about it, those tests only prove that hydro is better tasting than organically grown stuff.
The only thing that I have tasted that is hydroponically grown was a tomato, that being said it tasted noticeably better than an organic tomato, that being said, what you posted doesn't prove or disprove that organically grown cannabis needs or could benefit from a flush.
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Re: Pot that wont stay lit. [Re: ninja cat 09]
#589984 - 10/02/11 10:00 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Genetics nowdays a true organic grow would still yield well, provided your soil was good. Originally everything on the market was grown wild and for the most part organic.
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Magash
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Re: Pot that wont stay lit. [Re: ninja cat 09] 1
#589986 - 10/02/11 10:11 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Actually it does not prove that hydro taste better or that organic taste better what it proves is that people are led to believe that organic taste better. No matter what bud was in the plates marked organic people liked those better.
As far as the flush that is just plain common sense. The plant can't tell the difference between organic nutrients or hydro ones. Overload the plants with either nutrient and the results are the same. Bud that burns black and won't stay lit as well. I've tested this many times over the years (been growing under lights since 1985 and have a garden at this time that consists of 64000 watts of flowering alone)
The plant can't tell the difference between the nutrients and neither can anybody smoking it. Properly grown bud wither hydro or organic is exactly the same.
The reason hydroponic plants grow faster is not because of the nutrients, it's because of the method of delivery.
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Re: Pot that wont stay lit. [Re: Magash]
#590069 - 10/03/11 02:42 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Pot that wont stay lit. [Re: ninja cat 09]
#590104 - 10/03/11 05:21 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hydroponics yield more, faster, but well established organic plants produce as much it just takes longer. As far as taste, never been able to discern a difference. Some strains do have better bouquet than others, but most people prefer variety, if its available.
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Re: Pot that wont stay lit. [Re: iam23]
#590546 - 10/05/11 03:14 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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I just found out why it doesnt burn so well. The high THC content, one toke and its time to lay down.
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Re: Pot that wont stay lit. [Re: iam23]
#590547 - 10/05/11 03:19 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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iam23 said:
I just found out why it doesnt burn so well. The high THC content, one toke and its time to lay down.
That must be it.
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Re: Pot that wont stay lit. [Re: maryanne3087]
#590550 - 10/05/11 03:27 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeh, this person is a progro, I havent shared it with anyone to get an opinion but I rolled a small joint and had to keep lighting it 3 tokes and I laid down it was better than pinconning paralyzer, not many people have heard of the PP, its an old strain that is indigent to Pinconning.
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Re: Pot that wont stay lit. [Re: iam23]
#590561 - 10/05/11 03:39 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Do you mean to say indigenous(local to) rather than indigent(lacking, poor, etc)?
So this pot is so strong it won't burn, kind of ironic as that's how we tend to enjoy our pot. 
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Re: Pot that wont stay lit. [Re: maryanne3087]
#590576 - 10/05/11 04:21 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeh, I flunked college cause I couldnt smell. Yes, indigenous to Pinconning MI. I met the guy that bred the strain decades ago, its still around, but finding it is another story, Im almost tempted to call him, hopefully he's still alive, and find out if I could get seed or clones. If you come across any growers from Pinconning, you might be able to find seed or clones.
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Re: Pot that wont stay lit. [Re: maryanne3087]
#590578 - 10/05/11 04:23 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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maryanne3087 said:
Do you mean to say indigenous(local to) rather than indigent(lacking, poor, etc)?
So this pot is so strong it won't burn, kind of ironic as that's how we tend to enjoy our pot.
Its as if the lighter just vapes it, needless to say I didnt return it and ask for something else.lol
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Re: Pot that wont stay lit. [Re: maryanne3087]
#590583 - 10/05/11 04:44 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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maryanne3087 said:
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iam23 said:
I just found out why it doesnt burn so well. The high THC content, one toke and its time to lay down.
That must be it.
Actually, I was so puzzled by the fact it didnt burn that I didnt realize how good it is. Its so bomb Ive had to quit smoking it. Im down to one or two puffs later in the evening, ya know how it is.
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Re: Pot that wont stay lit. [Re: maryanne3087]
#590628 - 10/05/11 06:23 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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maryanne3087 said:
Do you mean to say indigenous(local to) rather than indigent(lacking, poor, etc)?
So this pot is so strong it won't burn, kind of ironic as that's how we tend to enjoy our pot.
I bet it's one of those bad ass auto-flowers his friends keep in veg and take clones from.
I feel safe to say this guy is full of shit, and wouldn't take a damn thing he says seriously.
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Re: Pot that wont stay lit. [Re: Stoneth]
#590634 - 10/05/11 06:34 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Redneck potheads? What happened to all the Peace, Love, Pot, Hippy friends and crash pads, attitude. Oh, I forgot its big business now and part of the status quo. Adios amigos, the feeling is mutual. Let your elevated conciousness be your guide. Peace! uh, thats what it was all about to begin with. Happy trails Dilli!
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