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 dfernandez90
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 PC or Mac 
#57037 - 06/13/08 05:22 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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You heard me. What do you use? Personally, being the hip youngster I am and trying to stay up to date with my hip young peers, I use a Mac. What is your opinion on both, experience using either, or do you just have a hard cock for Linux. Whatever the case may be.
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wowitch420
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i use a PC but mac is cooler. I see tons of beautiful people using them at coffee shops all over downtown austin
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slackophage
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Mac for home desktop, FreeBSD for personal and work servers.
I'm a Unix tech by trade, the Mac lets me talk natively to all the machines @ work (BSD & HP-UX) with no extra software.
I wasn't a Mac fan until they integrated the BSD shit with OS X and added all the purty eye candy. Having a user-friendly desktop with good application support AND a solid Unix back-end was a fucking godsend for a lot of us *n?x nerds.
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andyistic
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That choice Linux makes no sense being on that poll.
Why did you include it?
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dfernandez90
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 Re: PC or Mac [Re: andyistic]
#57065 - 06/13/08 06:34 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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I figured someone would give me shit for not adding it.
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 godspeedyou
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Mac. Chicka chicka yeah.
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beatyou
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Macfag reporting in here. slackophage pretty much summed up why. web developer by trade
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I wasn't a Mac fan until they integrated the BSD shit with OS X and added all the purty eye candy. Having a user-friendly desktop with good application support AND a solid Unix back-end was a fucking godsend for a lot of us *n?x nerds.
macs are popular among the hipper yuppie crowd, but I really prefer it for technical reasons. i have a mac mini.
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slackophage
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Re: PC or Mac [Re: beatyou]
#61131 - 06/19/08 10:16 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
beatyou said:
Macfag reporting in here. slackophage pretty much summed up why. web developer by trade
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I wasn't a Mac fan until they integrated the BSD shit with OS X and added all the purty eye candy. Having a user-friendly desktop with good application support AND a solid Unix back-end was a fucking godsend for a lot of us *n?x nerds.
macs are popular among the hipper yuppie crowd, but I really prefer it for technical reasons. i have a mac mini.
Mini's are  . Love mine, even though it is an old G4 model. Once it's past it's usability, it'll make a great dedicated iTunes server.
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still beLIEve
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i might think about grabbin one for a next comp
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niteowl said:
See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.
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beatyou
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I highly suggest it, a mac mini is a great computer for about 800 base price. I got an extra gb of ram, cause the stock one only has 1. I run a Windows XP virtual machine, photoshop, lots of other apps and never experience lag issues. As long as I reboot once a week or so. My XP virtual machine actuallys runs FASTER than I have ever seen XP run on its own hardware. 
There is a rumor of a Mac mini redesign, making it even smaller and more powerful in the next year or so.
http://www.apple.com/macmini/
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Edited by beatyou (06/19/08 10:27 AM)
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still beLIEve
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Re: PC or Mac [Re: beatyou]
#61145 - 06/19/08 10:30 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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i like that one
ive just been with pc for so long
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niteowl said:
See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.
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MistaUNGA
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i use a pc, am not a big mac fan, and probably will not switch to mac (unless i get a laptop).
i have built my last 3 pcs, usually with good success. sometimes have some hardware issues, and i know they're pretty much absent with mac 
i have become so accustomed to the windows os that learning a new os at this point would be very irritating. plus all the best games are on pc, and mac gots no gamez for the l33t h4x0rz r0flmaoslol
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If everyone could do mushroom, yes, it would be a wonderful world. This will never be, only some can do mushrooms. It is the responsibility of those of us who see the world most clearly to pass the clarity on to those who cannot bare to wear our lenses.
Madtowntripper said:Or just give her a cloroform soaked rag and tell her it's ether!
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Re: PC or Mac [Re: MistaUNGA]
#61169 - 06/19/08 11:02 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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PC anyday.
Macs are good for people who know nothing about computer hardware/software. Either than that your paying for an linux box with overpriced hardware.
Building a PC is the way to go. XP runs uber fast on any hardware 2006 or newer.
I must admit Mac laptops are nice, very well built and run cool.
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andyistic
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Re: PC or Mac [Re: zippo420]
#61170 - 06/19/08 11:03 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's really stupid calling Intel machines "PC's" when in fact, all home computers are PC's.
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Phriend
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Re: PC or Mac [Re: andyistic]
#61171 - 06/19/08 11:07 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lately I've been real personal with my computer
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beatyou
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Re: PC or Mac [Re: zippo420]
#61172 - 06/19/08 11:09 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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not true. i do web development and design and linux server administration. i know a lot more about computer hardware/software than you. Just about every media professional who knows their shit, whether it be video editor, 3D designer, graphic designer, all use Macs. It improved my workflow tremendously. I used to use PCs, and work on Macs now because I can get shit done much faster.
OSX is built on unix, making it naturally more stable than Windows, especially this Windows Vista crap, a total joke....
This debate could go on forever, but I'll participate, cause I know I'm right. 
Most of the folks who bash Macs have never used them, or are afraid of learning anything new. Or they are "gamers" or afraid of conforming to some "hip" trend they are too cool for. in reality, it's just a superior machine, nothing else.
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Re: PC or Mac [Re: Phriend]
#61181 - 06/19/08 11:11 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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I love my MacMini... it rocks.
Macs FTW!
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andyistic
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Re: PC or Mac [Re: beatyou]
#61183 - 06/19/08 11:12 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
beatyou said:
I know a lot more about computer hardware/software than you.
You really shouldn't be making statements like that. 
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beatyou
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Re: PC or Mac [Re: andyistic]
#61184 - 06/19/08 11:15 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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why not? are you gunna h4x0r me.
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MistaUNGA
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Re: PC or Mac [Re: andyistic]
#61186 - 06/19/08 11:16 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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mine's an AMD! 
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ExplosiveMango said:
If everyone could do mushroom, yes, it would be a wonderful world. This will never be, only some can do mushrooms. It is the responsibility of those of us who see the world most clearly to pass the clarity on to those who cannot bare to wear our lenses.
Madtowntripper said:Or just give her a cloroform soaked rag and tell her it's ether!
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MistaUNGA
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Re: PC or Mac [Re: beatyou]
#61189 - 06/19/08 11:17 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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yeah for a lot of video/audio/photo editing type stuff i know mac is the way to go. but i don't do any of that stuff. i just use it for the net, music, and games. and i need the games. so i just can't use a mac. if they sucessfully ported all of my favorite games to mac, i would consider it. until then, windows platform games still hold the market.
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ExplosiveMango said:
If everyone could do mushroom, yes, it would be a wonderful world. This will never be, only some can do mushrooms. It is the responsibility of those of us who see the world most clearly to pass the clarity on to those who cannot bare to wear our lenses.
Madtowntripper said:Or just give her a cloroform soaked rag and tell her it's ether!
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Re: PC or Mac [Re: MistaUNGA]
#61190 - 06/19/08 11:17 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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I used to be AMD only when I built my own PCs, but lately their chips have been lagging behind Intel pretty bad. They used to be the most bang for the buck, but not anymore.
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andyistic
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Re: PC or Mac [Re: beatyou]
#61192 - 06/19/08 11:20 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've always gone with Intel, even if they are much more expensive.
I never had a problem with their CPU's, other than becoming obsolete so fast.
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beatyou
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Re: PC or Mac [Re: MistaUNGA]
#61193 - 06/19/08 11:20 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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True, once Mac has a significant market share, which is growing by the day. Every game will have a Mac port. Right now, most game developers just don't make Mac ports, because of it's relatively low market share.
Check out the Mac Pro. Comes with dual quad core out of the box, a total of 8 active processors. Not cheap by any means, but worth it if you are a serious power user and actually use it for work.
http://www.apple.com/macpro/
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slackophage
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Re: PC or Mac [Re: beatyou]
#61194 - 06/19/08 11:20 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
beatyou said:
why not? are you gunna h4x0r me.
Because you're wrong.
OS X is built on a Mach kernel, from the old NeXT stuff. The Unix features are in a layer, not the actual kernel. 
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still beLIEve
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nice
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niteowl said:
See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.
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beatyou
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Mac OSX is a unix based OS, the fact it uses Mach as a microkernel does not change this fact.
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Edited by beatyou (06/19/08 11:47 AM)
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slackophage
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Re: PC or Mac [Re: beatyou]
#61229 - 06/19/08 11:49 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Semantics are important in technical discussions.
Didn't mean to come across like a dick, just a pet peeve of mine when people throw out the "It's built on Unix so that makes it more stable!".
Hell, to be really pedantic (Free/Net/Open)BSD isn't even Unix. 
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beatyou
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From a purist point of view, you are right. Most of those are hybrids of Unix? Including Mac OSX
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andyistic
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My PC was built on a hard-wood table, so that makes it more stable!
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dfernandez90
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Re: PC or Mac [Re: beatyou]
#61238 - 06/19/08 11:54 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
beatyou said:
True, once Mac has a significant market share, which is growing by the day. Every game will have a Mac port. Right now, most game developers just don't make Mac ports, because of it's relatively low market share.
Check out the Mac Pro. Comes with dual quad core out of the box, a total of 8 active processors. Not cheap by any means, but worth it if you are a serious power user and actually use it for work.
http://www.apple.com/macpro/
What I use. Best computer I have ever owned. As stupid as the commercials are they have a point, Macs are plain and simple more user friendly.
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beatyou
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Yea i hate the mac vs pc commercials. they seem to be working though haha
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slackophage
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Re: PC or Mac [Re: beatyou]
#61245 - 06/19/08 12:08 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Closest they can claim is "Unix-Like", this snippet from NetBSD's site sums it up well:
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About the UNIX trademark
If something looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, what is it?
The answer, of course, depends on whether or not the name `duck' is a trademark! If it is, then the closest that something can get, without permission of the owner of the trademark, is `duck-like.'
`UNIX' is a trademark of The Open Group, and NetBSD has not been branded with that trademark. Therefore, NetBSD is not UNIX. We refer to it as `UNIX-like' or `UN*X-like.'
OS X is a fucking awesome mix of the Mach and BSD stuff. But the BSD layer doesn't really make it as stable as a lot of people tout, since most of that code is in the Mach side of things.
The BSD layer more allows OS X to leverage existing *nix functionality. Some stability comes from here (pthreads, file system drivers, etc), but mostly it opened the door for the metric shit-ton of *nix apps to be compatible, the Unix-like security it inherited wasn't bad either.
I'm done being a nerd now, shouldn't be using my brain this much away from work!
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I hate when people use stability as a reason a Mac is better than a windows box.
My windows machine has been running without a problem since I built it.
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Re: PC or Mac [Re: beatyou]
#61294 - 06/19/08 12:45 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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"My XP virtual machine actuallys runs FASTER than I have ever seen XP run on its own hardware." XP doesn't have its own hardware. Lol.
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beatyou
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Re: PC or Mac [Re: oxalic32]
#61319 - 06/19/08 01:14 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Meant a box that just runs XP. 
VMware Fusion ftw
I like running VMware on Linux servers as well. A real cost cutter. Get a quad core server, and dedicated each proc. to it's own VM. Great stuffs.
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Edited by beatyou (06/19/08 01:24 PM)
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oxalic32
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Re: PC or Mac [Re: beatyou]
#61384 - 06/19/08 02:26 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thats my point. If XP had its own hardware things would be entirely different. Or if Mac had real compatibility like PCs do.
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m.faust
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Re: PC or Mac [Re: oxalic32]
#61396 - 06/19/08 02:39 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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I bought a Mac book at the same time my friend get his new PC. Since January 2007, I never had a slow in my Mac and my friend already formated his PC twice and it's still slow. I'm doing 2d graphic and the best thing I bought ever it was my Mac !
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beatyou
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Re: PC or Mac [Re: oxalic32]
#61402 - 06/19/08 03:07 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
oxalic32 said:
Thats my point. If XP had its own hardware things would be entirely different. Or if Mac had real compatibility like PCs do.
I've never had a compatibility issue. I've plugged all sorts of weird devices into my mac and they have worked. Even some funky bluetooth headphones a buddy had me try, my bluetooth phone works perfect too, hardly use it though. just to transfer pics.
And as far as software goes, that's where Mac really excels. There is a Mac equivalent for any piece of Windows software, usually much better and probably open source.
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Re: PC or Mac [Re: beatyou]
#61762 - 06/19/08 08:51 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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iMac 20" now. 2ghz duo/2gb/500gb/x1800. gonna buy a 24" really soon.
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