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 slackophage
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Registered: 04/21/08
Posts: 891
Loc: Tacompton, WA
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Mac for home desktop, FreeBSD for personal and work servers.
I'm a Unix tech by trade, the Mac lets me talk natively to all the machines @ work (BSD & HP-UX) with no extra software.
I wasn't a Mac fan until they integrated the BSD shit with OS X and added all the purty eye candy. Having a user-friendly desktop with good application support AND a solid Unix back-end was a fucking godsend for a lot of us *n?x nerds.
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slackophage
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Loc: Tacompton, WA
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 Re: PC or Mac  [Re: beatyou]
#61131 - 06/19/08 10:16 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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beatyou said:
Macfag reporting in here. slackophage pretty much summed up why. web developer by trade
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I wasn't a Mac fan until they integrated the BSD shit with OS X and added all the purty eye candy. Having a user-friendly desktop with good application support AND a solid Unix back-end was a fucking godsend for a lot of us *n?x nerds.
macs are popular among the hipper yuppie crowd, but I really prefer it for technical reasons. i have a mac mini.
Mini's are  . Love mine, even though it is an old G4 model. Once it's past it's usability, it'll make a great dedicated iTunes server.
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slackophage
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Registered: 04/21/08
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Loc: Tacompton, WA
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Re: PC or Mac [Re: beatyou]
#61194 - 06/19/08 11:20 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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beatyou said:
why not? are you gunna h4x0r me.
Because you're wrong.
OS X is built on a Mach kernel, from the old NeXT stuff. The Unix features are in a layer, not the actual kernel. 
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slackophage
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Loc: Tacompton, WA
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Re: PC or Mac [Re: beatyou]
#61229 - 06/19/08 11:49 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Semantics are important in technical discussions.
Didn't mean to come across like a dick, just a pet peeve of mine when people throw out the "It's built on Unix so that makes it more stable!".
Hell, to be really pedantic (Free/Net/Open)BSD isn't even Unix. 
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slackophage
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Re: PC or Mac [Re: beatyou]
#61245 - 06/19/08 12:08 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Closest they can claim is "Unix-Like", this snippet from NetBSD's site sums it up well:
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About the UNIX trademark
If something looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, what is it?
The answer, of course, depends on whether or not the name `duck' is a trademark! If it is, then the closest that something can get, without permission of the owner of the trademark, is `duck-like.'
`UNIX' is a trademark of The Open Group, and NetBSD has not been branded with that trademark. Therefore, NetBSD is not UNIX. We refer to it as `UNIX-like' or `UN*X-like.'
OS X is a fucking awesome mix of the Mach and BSD stuff. But the BSD layer doesn't really make it as stable as a lot of people tout, since most of that code is in the Mach side of things.
The BSD layer more allows OS X to leverage existing *nix functionality. Some stability comes from here (pthreads, file system drivers, etc), but mostly it opened the door for the metric shit-ton of *nix apps to be compatible, the Unix-like security it inherited wasn't bad either.
I'm done being a nerd now, shouldn't be using my brain this much away from work!
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