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Re: PC or Mac [Re: dfernandez90]
    #57041 - 06/13/08 05:27 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Mac for home desktop, FreeBSD for personal and work servers.

I'm a Unix tech by trade, the Mac lets me talk natively to all the machines @ work (BSD & HP-UX) with no extra software.

I wasn't a Mac fan until they integrated the BSD shit with OS X and added all the purty eye candy. Having a user-friendly desktop with good application support AND a solid Unix back-end was a fucking godsend for a lot of us *n?x nerds.


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Re: PC or Mac [Re: beatyou]
    #61131 - 06/19/08 10:16 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

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Macfag reporting in here. slackophage pretty much summed up why. web developer by trade

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I wasn't a Mac fan until they integrated the BSD shit with OS X and added all the purty eye candy. Having a user-friendly desktop with good application support AND a solid Unix back-end was a fucking godsend for a lot of us *n?x nerds.




macs are popular among the hipper yuppie crowd, but I really prefer it for technical reasons. i have a mac mini.




Mini's are :awesome:. Love mine, even though it is an old G4 model. Once it's past it's usability, it'll make a great dedicated iTunes server.


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Re: PC or Mac [Re: beatyou]
    #61194 - 06/19/08 11:20 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

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why not? are you gunna h4x0r me.




Because you're wrong.

OS X is built on a Mach kernel, from the old NeXT stuff. The Unix features are in a layer, not the actual kernel. :lecture:


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Re: PC or Mac [Re: beatyou]
    #61229 - 06/19/08 11:49 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Semantics are important in technical discussions.

Didn't mean to come across like a dick, just a pet peeve of mine when people throw out the "It's built on Unix so that makes it more stable!".

Hell, to be really pedantic (Free/Net/Open)BSD isn't even Unix. :nerd:


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Re: PC or Mac [Re: beatyou]
    #61245 - 06/19/08 12:08 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Closest they can claim is "Unix-Like", this snippet from NetBSD's site sums it up well:

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About the UNIX trademark
If something looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, what is it?

The answer, of course, depends on whether or not the name `duck' is a trademark! If it is, then the closest that something can get, without permission of the owner of the trademark, is `duck-like.'

`UNIX' is a trademark of The Open Group, and NetBSD has not been branded with that trademark. Therefore, NetBSD is not UNIX. We refer to it as `UNIX-like' or `UN*X-like.'





OS X is a fucking awesome mix of the Mach and BSD stuff. But the BSD layer doesn't really make it as stable as a lot of people tout, since most of that code is in the Mach side of things.

The BSD layer more allows OS X to leverage existing *nix functionality. Some stability comes from here (pthreads, file system drivers, etc), but mostly it opened the door for the metric shit-ton of *nix apps to be compatible, the Unix-like security it inherited wasn't bad either.

I'm done being a nerd now, shouldn't be using my brain this much away from work!


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