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 BigBudz
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 Re: LED light  [Re: dmtcorey] 1
#533721 - 03/06/11 03:23 AM (14 years, 28 days ago) |
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Here is plenty of them to buy. Almost all the distrubters here on eBay order them from china in bulk. I bought ones from different suppliers and they all sorta worked the same. Here I search for 3W led's.
http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=3w+led+grow&_sacat=0&_odkw=300w+led+grow&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313
I looked at the cheapest one from http://myworld.ebay.com/ledstores/?_trksid=p4340.l2559 and it looks legit. Unless you find one used, or start your own business from China, that is the best LED light you are going to get for your money today.
Hard to invest, since every 6 months they make something better. But mostly they have stuck with 3W led's and 4+ bands as the cutting edge of LED Grow Lights on the market. Bridgelux are the cheapest LED's and CREE are the best. I used a combo one just like the one this guy is selling and it was amazing for either flowering alone, veg alone or in combo with HPS in flowering was super awesome!
The prices now are even cheaper then they were 6 months ago. It will get cheaper in another 6 months but damn those 4+ Spectrum LED lights have UVB LED's which kill mold and are awesome for plants. Those LED's alone are worth it in any flowering room, period.
The simple and very cheap led's that are only 2 band can work for veg, Red and Blue but you might as well go for a 4 or + more band unit. I had a 120W unit from eBay that had 1 watt led's and it seemed to do pretty good in a 2x5 area, even though 2 of them would have been better. The 120W unit is almost as powerful as a 400W MH for veg. I'd say plants respond better to a 120W LED 4 Band Unit vs. a 400W MH.
For flowering I never got to try just LED's, I used a mix of HPS and LED. The unit I had was crazy futurist, but cost a premium at the time. Had at least 8 spectrums. Right now is half the cost of 6 months ago. By 2012 I think LED's might just be cheaper then HPS or MH for even 1 bulb cycle. I mean right now it's about $1 a W.
Only thing about LED's is they are slightly tricky. Make sure you ask the supplier what the W draw and output total is of the unit. Once some crappy company said it was a 600W LED unit, when the draw was only 300W and output was only 300W. Regardless the actual number, I find the real world output in comparison to MH and HPS is roughy 2.5 X W of the LED Output. If you get that much LED instead of HPS or MH I'm positive it will walk all over them if you plants are trees.
With the 3W led's light penetration goes at least 2-3 feet. At time goes on, it makes no sense to buy at least MH lights as LED is essentially superior to them considering plant height isn't ridiculous. Even with ED Rosenthal says LED's are the future; indirectly of course. He states that UVB lights provide many benefits to cannabis plants. Ironically they are only found in LED lights to my knowledge. http://mjgrowers.com/book_what_exper1.htm http://www.420magazine.com/forums/cabinet-closet-grow-room-setup/79209-uvb-light-whats-real-story.html
Infrared LED's are the same thing as a UVB LED. Where Eye protection if possible.
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Edited by BigBudz (03/06/11 03:29 AM)
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 phychotron
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 LED light
#528239 - 02/17/11 04:42 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm looking to get an LED light system in order to save money on the electricity bill, I was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction as for selecting something worth while. Somewhere less than $200 would be nice.
I've never grown, but looking to get about three plants. Thanks
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Stoneth
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Search ebay for 120 watt grow lights, you should be able to find a nice one fairly easy.
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Re: LED light [Re: Stoneth]
#528264 - 02/17/11 05:32 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Stoneth
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I love my LED, it's only a three band but does great.
As for replacing a 600 I don't know about that.
I can match my 400 HPS yields tho with out problems.
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phychotron
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What's the deal with the direction, 90º on that one i posted. would you recomend that light? i'm drawn to the made/engineered in usa aspect
also, what about 1w vs 3w led's?
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Stoneth
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Higher wattage the better penetration you'll get.
I haven't played with a 5 band yet, tho it should do better than my three band setup.
That light is made by the same company as mine so I guess it'd be a legit unit.
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phychotron
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So if I had that light for example, what could I expect in yield? how many plants would that sustain in soil?
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Stoneth
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Quote:
phychotron said:
So if I had that light for example, what could I expect in yield? how many plants would that sustain in soil?
To many viables to say honestly.
It'd greatly depend on strain and grower ability.
But a good grower, who knows his/her strain could easily do 1 to 3 grams per watt.
I wouldn't use that unit in an area over 6 square feet with high expectation either, less of course less would be better.
In my experience, experience is the largest key to yields.
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dmtcorey
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Re: LED light [Re: Stoneth]
#528479 - 02/18/11 07:02 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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how many watts is you led light that compares to 400w hps if you dont mind me asking?
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Re: LED light [Re: dmtcorey]
#528520 - 02/18/11 08:45 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's a 120 watt, tri-band 7-1-1, red, blue, orange.
One watt leds.
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dmtcorey
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Re: LED light [Re: Stoneth]
#528747 - 02/19/11 04:04 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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...really ,how is the rate of growth , is the veg time slower with the led ,or is the veg time the same as a hid lamp? does the 120 watt led cover the same sq footage as the 400watt hid?
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Stoneth
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Re: LED light [Re: dmtcorey]
#528815 - 02/19/11 07:15 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I noticed during veg growth the limb spacing was closer, making a tighter looking bush. Other than that not much difference in the two systems.
As far as coverage goes, I wouldn't go beyond 6 square foot for either system. So I guess the anwer you're looking for is yes.
I'm currently letting a friend use it, along side of a 400 HPS in a 2.5 x 2.5 x 5 foot space, he has just started week 5, day 29 of slowering and this is what it looks like.
       
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dmtcorey
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Re: LED light [Re: Stoneth]
#528869 - 02/19/11 08:53 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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that looks good , i was thinking of getting one to try unstead of getting my hid !i was a little sceptical at first! being new to the market i wanted to see them proove them selve before forking out the cash , but thats nice to see ,thanks for the pics to man!
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Re: LED light [Re: dmtcorey]
#528879 - 02/19/11 09:25 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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why do LED's have to be so freakin expensive?!
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phychotron
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They are not that expensive, about $200 for a 120w light that is roughly equivalent to a 400w hps. I'd say that's a good price for not having to swap out bulbs or pay for the extra wattage. If it produces one ounce in its life time it pays for itself.
I was looking at a switchable hps/mh lamp that was maybe $20 less but did not come with the bulb.
Another thing that appeals to me is the lack of heat. I'm sure HID's are perfectly safe and all, but i'd rather not risk burning down the apartment. Oh, and this is just a stand alone light that will quickly be ready to be thrown in a box in a jam, without having to let it cool.
on order:
light contains 112 x 1 watt LEDs, red/blue/orange/white 19:3:3:3 ratio
Precision blue & white LEDs from Bridgelux USA (growth)
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phychotron
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The light I ordered was out of stock.. any comments on this light?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290533637583&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
from the graph's i've seen it looks like chlorafil a needs those violet colors as well as red. this is one of the few that has those extra wavelenght's, but i'm wondering if i should also suppliment it with maybe some panels or something like that.
obviously more light is better, but does anyone know if those 14w led panels are worth a damn?
like this for example...
http://cgi.ebay.com/225-LED-Quad-Band-Full-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Grow-Light-/110650635888?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c34ab670
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Stoneth
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Those 14w panels are jokes, they'd only be good for side lighting in my personal opinion.
That other unit looks like a nice setup, tho.
One of the biggest points to check for is wattage per bulb, you want at least 1 watt per bulb, tho I'd prefer more.
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Re: LED light [Re: Stoneth]
#530561 - 02/25/11 12:53 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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watts per bulb is why i went with the blackstar. it uses the 3w led.
and yea, i was thinking about maybe supplementing that blackstar with two of those panels, but never as main lighting. $67 for two doesn't seem too bad of a deal, but the 14w aspect really leaves me skeptical. I think it might be better to just save up for another blackstar in the long run.
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dmtcorey
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ha,just got my hydro bill the other day ,$540,looks like ill be looking into one of these lights ,540s fukn bull shit ,crazy ~
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