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 Dephect
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 1000w in a 2x4 space? 
#522260 - 02/02/11 02:31 AM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hello.
I currently have a 600w HPS. I want some bigger nugs. Do you think a 1000w will run well in a 2x4 set up or should I try and get a 4x4.
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Shroomofdoom
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Re: 1000w in a 2x4 space? [Re: Dephect]
#522296 - 02/02/11 09:29 AM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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If you can keep temps down then you shouldnt have a problem puttin a 1000w in there.
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Re: 1000w in a 2x4 space? [Re: Dephect]
#522315 - 02/02/11 11:30 AM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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Why not just add another 600 watt HPS to the room you have?
It would be more lums than a 1000 watter as well as better light spread across the top of the plants. 
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Re: 1000w in a 2x4 space? [Re: Stoneth]
#522340 - 02/02/11 12:38 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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1000 watts give bigger nugs
do it.
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Re: 1000w in a 2x4 space? [Re: impgl]
#522347 - 02/02/11 12:50 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
impgl said:
1000 watts give bigger nugs
do it.
/thread
Two times 600 watts is greater than one 1000 watt, sorry it's just a fact.
That's 1200 watts which should yield much better, than just one 1000 watts.
It's simple math if you think about it.
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Re: 1000w in a 2x4 space? [Re: Stoneth]
#522360 - 02/02/11 01:25 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
stoney.69 said:
Quote:
impgl said:
1000 watts give bigger nugs
do it.
/thread
Two times 600 watts is greater than one 1000 watt, sorry it's just a fact.
That's 1200 watts which should yield much better, than just one 1000 watts.
It's simple math if you think about it.
bigger nugs not bigger yields (though in past experience for me 1000> 2 x 600 as far as yields). besides, you ever try fitting 2 hoods in a 2 x 4? I have
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Re: 1000w in a 2x4 space? [Re: impgl]
#522370 - 02/02/11 01:48 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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impgl said:
Quote:
stoney.69 said:
Quote:
impgl said:
1000 watts give bigger nugs
do it.
/thread
Two times 600 watts is greater than one 1000 watt, sorry it's just a fact.
That's 1200 watts which should yield much better, than just one 1000 watts.
It's simple math if you think about it.
bigger nugs not bigger yields (though in past experience for me 1000> 2 x 600 as far as yields). besides, you ever try fitting 2 hoods in a 2 x 4? I have
Yes I actually have two huds in a 2.5 by 2.5 room now.
In fact all my flower rooms have two lights in them. Mainly to allow me a monthly harvest, instead of bi monthly.
He would have 150 watts per square foot with two 600 watt lights, that is going to produce some large and very dense bud. A 1000 light in 8 square foot is only 125 watt per square foot. Not to mention one 1000 watt light without a light rail it won't be able to spread the light out to evenly across the top of the plants meaning the plants on the outer edges won't benfit as well as those under the light.
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Re: 1000w in a 2x4 space? [Re: Stoneth]
#522408 - 02/02/11 03:56 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks for all your help everyone. I know 2 x 600w is more efficient then 1 x 1000w..
If I went the Dual 600 route. I would be getting a Electronic Dual 600w Ballast. I don't know if I can run a 240v though in my unit currently and I don't even think they make a 120v version, if not I would probably just buy another 600w Xtrasun Magnetic Ballast. I would also be getting a dual bulb hood like a Hydrofarm Growzilla so the power is more focused, 2x4 is not that much space to cover.. Just need to make sure it runs two HPS bulbs and not just 1 HPS and 1 MH.
I have been told so much that I will be giving the plants too much light for that space but I call bogus, that was the real reason for asking. I wont be giving them too much light and cause chlorosis in the leaves? I really want some donkey dick colas and I need to up the wattage (and nutes?) to achieve that.
1200w > 2'7"x4'7"x6'7" space? Not too much light? Will give me large colas instead of over saturating my plant with light?
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Re: 1000w in a 2x4 space? [Re: Dephect]
#522416 - 02/02/11 04:11 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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Too much light? I don't think that's possible.
More light equals more bud.
But are you sure light is your issue?
Nutes and genetics play a large roll in finish product.
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Re: 1000w in a 2x4 space? [Re: Stoneth]
#522554 - 02/02/11 11:55 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks just needed to know if it was too much light for that amount of space. Just clarifying what I have been told is wrong so I will either now buy a 1000w Ballast or another 600w.
I still need to work on my nutes yes, I need a recirculating hydro system or I might try a organic SOG soon.
Higher wattage = bigger yield. As long as the higher wattage is not too much for my space I am good to go. I am getting some heavy yielding strains and I want to get the most out of my plants.
Edited by Dephect (02/03/11 12:00 AM)
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Re: 1000w in a 2x4 space? [Re: Dephect]
#529689 - 02/22/11 08:21 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Two 600w lamps would be more efficient than one 1200w lamp, if such a lamp existed. This is because the light between the two 600w lamps overlap leading to more lumens (a brighter light) within that area. Theoretically, the single 1200w lamp would be able to cover more of an area, but with two 600w lamps they can be places close together creating that overlap we desire. And the brighter light or otherwise said, more lumens focused on the plant leads to growing big buds. Get it? Something like this is mention in the Marijuana Grower's Bible. 
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Re: 1000w in a 2x4 space? [Re: encryptor]
#529808 - 02/23/11 01:49 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah I knew that tid bit of information before I made this thread.
Thanks though.
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Re: 1000w in a 2x4 space? [Re: Dephect]
#529878 - 02/23/11 10:19 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well if you're looking for bigger NUGS rather than just increased yield then go with the 1KW. the 600's will yield more overall I would expect (depending on your growing style) but obviously the high penetrational intensity of the 1000W bulb will help fill your buds out way more
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As long as you have a cool tube or something like that =), 1000W would work. Otherwise it's going be too hot. Sounds like you got some tall plants or something? I would possible scrog in a tent, pretty easy.
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Re: 1000w in a 2x4 space? [Re: BigBudz]
#530318 - 02/24/11 02:20 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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My wife and I were discussing things, and this thread gave me the idea of putting two 1k watt cool tubes in a 4x4 tent, and she thinks it would be impossible to keep the heat down. Would a 425 cfm fan pulling air through both tubes be able to cool both lights enough to keep the temps where they should be? There will be another small oscillating fan inside the tent for circulation as well...
Also, if I had two tubes that had 25x31 inch hoods, and a 4x4 tent, would it be okay to let the edges of the hoods push out on the sides of the tent, or would that be too big a fire hazard?
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Re: 1000w in a 2x4 space? [Re: Tank333]
#530322 - 02/24/11 02:23 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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hahaha fuck no dude. That fan will wither and die.
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Tank333
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What size fan would be needed to cool say, 2 600 watt tubes in the same space?
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Re: 1000w in a 2x4 space? [Re: Tank333]
#530325 - 02/24/11 02:32 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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it depends on how far you're pulling. A 6" vortex (about 450cfm) would be fine if you're just pulling the length of the tent and that's it. Now if you're pulling 10-15 feet of ducting then you'll need to step it up. also depends on how many turns the ducting has to make
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Tank333
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well, in order to fit in the tent, they'd have to be side-by-side. So if I can work it right, one 90 and one 180 turn?
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Re: 1000w in a 2x4 space? [Re: Tank333]
#530522 - 02/24/11 11:47 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have a 265 cfm fan drawing heat from the 600w (Daystar AC Hood) now and I can tell you that there will need to be some good ventilation to properly cool what I want to achieve. I am not going to do it quite yet. I definitely need to see how the summer goes and if I move because it gets too hot up here. I also did this last run without a carbon filter, which made my place stink up during peak weeks of flowering.
I am looking for huge colas and increased yield. Should I go with the 2x600w then or 1000w? Keep in mind Harry if I am running 2x600w I am going to be running them in a Growzilla hood which houses 2 sockets.
Edited by Dephect (02/24/11 11:49 PM)
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