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 Pandor
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 Seedlings. Cause for concern? *DELETED* 
#513967 - 01/15/11 12:14 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Pandor
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Re: Seedlings. Cause for concern? [Re: Pandor]
#513968 - 01/15/11 12:22 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Just saw Coda's post.
Top 2 are hempy style. Bottom is coco/peat/verm/pearlite.
I just started using General Hydroponics flora.
This is my first time growing.
They are under T5. 24 hr light.
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maryanne3087
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Re: Seedlings. Cause for concern? [Re: Pandor]
#514189 - 01/16/11 02:33 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Those pictures are pretty bad man.
The bottom one looks crusty but I can't even tell.
The ones that are shooting up straight in #1 and #2 look fine, unless I'm missing something.
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Re: Seedlings. Cause for concern? [Re: maryanne3087]
#514201 - 01/16/11 04:21 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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how far from the lights are they?
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Pandor
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Re: Seedlings. Cause for concern? [Re: jkell]
#514298 - 01/16/11 01:31 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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maryanne3087 said:
Those pictures are pretty bad man.
The bottom one looks crusty but I can't even tell.
The ones that are shooting up straight in #1 and #2 look fine, unless I'm missing something.
I thought the first ones leaves were pointing up too far if that's no big deal, that's a relief.
What's wrong with the crusty one? I have others looking like that now too. What do I do?
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how far from the lights are they?
They are 1 ft from the florescent lamp.
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Re: Seedlings. Cause for concern? [Re: Pandor]
#514303 - 01/16/11 01:38 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Soil Growers:
1. Are you growing from seed or clones?
2. How old are your plants?
3. How tall are your plants?
4. What size containers are they planted in?
5. What is your soil mix?
6. How often do you water and what type of water do you use?
7. What is the pH of your water?
8. What kind of fertilizer do you use and what is its NPK ratio?
9. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything?
10. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights")
11. How close are your lights to the plants?
12. What size is your grow space in square feet?
13. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space?
14. What is the pH of the soil?
15. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space?
16. How much experience do you have growing?
Fill this out please?
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Pandor
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Re: Seedlings. Cause for concern? [Re: muse42]
#514317 - 01/16/11 01:54 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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1. Are you growing from seed or clones?
feminized seeds from greenhouse
2. How old are your plants?
2 weeks
3. How tall are your plants?
an inch or so
4. What size containers are they planted in?
solo cups
5. What is your soil mix?
the white ones are hempy style. the dark one is a coco/peat with some pearlite and vermiculite added
6. How often do you water and what type of water do you use?
They were just transplanted. I watered/fed them when they were transplanted 2 days ago. Then I watered the coco/peat ones the very next day because they seemed dry. The hempy styles I just watered last night, that was 2 nights after transplant
7. What is the pH of your water? 6
8. What kind of fertilizer do you use and what is its NPK ratio?
Followed directions on bottle. one quarter of each per gallon for seedlings
9. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything?no
10. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights")
T5 flourescent
11. How close are your lights to the plants?1 ft
12. What size is your grow space in square feet? 4x4 tent
13. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space?
temp is 75. not sure about humidity.
14. What is the pH of the soil? not using soil
15. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space? no never
16. How much experience do you have growing? very little
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Re: Seedlings. Cause for concern? [Re: Pandor]
#514320 - 01/16/11 02:01 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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6. How often do you water and what type of water do you use?
They were just transplanted. I watered/fed them when they were transplanted 2 days ago. Then I watered the coco/peat ones the very next day because they seemed dry. The hempy styles I just watered last night, that was 2 nights after transplant
I have never grown either way you describe, but I still think you way be overwatering.
Also, you never said what type of water you are using.
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8. What kind of fertilizer do you use and what is its NPK ratio?
Followed directions on bottle. one quarter of each per gallon for seedlings
Quarter of what per gallon? You may be feeding them to much?
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Pandor
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Re: Seedlings. Cause for concern? [Re: muse42]
#514322 - 01/16/11 02:02 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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sorry. one quarter teaspoon per gallon
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Pandor
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Re: Seedlings. Cause for concern? [Re: Pandor]
#514380 - 01/16/11 05:15 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Here's a close up of each of the 10 seedlings. Some look OK. Others look really bad to me and I'm worried. The worse ones are at the end.
         
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Re: Seedlings. Cause for concern? [Re: Pandor]
#514391 - 01/16/11 05:49 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Have the roots made it out of the original plugs yet?
They look overwatered to me, and maybe a combination of that and other factors is causing your conditions.
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Pandor
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Re: Seedlings. Cause for concern? [Re: muse42]
#514402 - 01/16/11 06:15 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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There were little white roots trying to poke out all around them when I transplanted. I guess all I can do now is wait.
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Re: Seedlings. Cause for concern? [Re: Pandor]
#514410 - 01/16/11 07:07 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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I would start to stop nutes and hit them with some reg distilled water for a little while. See if that clears it up.
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maryanne3087
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Re: Seedlings. Cause for concern? [Re: Shroomofdoom]
#514470 - 01/17/11 12:28 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sorry for not responding promtly, busy with some stuff I can't ignore unfortunately.
It looks crusty to me, but the picture isn't clear at all, your first set of leaves and cotyledons pointing up isn't an issue unless you're ocd and just don't want to see it. It happens a lot when you start seeds under HID when it's 90F outside, I'd be more worried about the medium drying out, then you'll really have problems.
If you actually burn your seedlings with heat or nutrients you need to back off. If you see either back off on both light and nutrients.
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Re: Seedlings. Cause for concern? [Re: maryanne3087]
#514508 - 01/17/11 05:06 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'd get them a little closer to those flouro's too, cut that distance in about half.
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Pandor
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Re: Seedlings. Cause for concern? [Re: jkell]
#516149 - 01/20/11 12:57 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Update on the seedlings. Separated them by strain. I really wish I had just done all coco. Kicking myself.
S Lemon Haze
  
S Kush
White Rhino
  
Church
  
I wanted to be ambitious and try hempy style. Not good for a first time. I was told as much. Wish I had listened.
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Re: Seedlings. Cause for concern? [Re: Pandor]
#516627 - 01/21/11 09:02 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ah, I don't agree with that! Hempy is a good way to get into growing. I have, however, found that I'm not liking perlite as my medium any more. I just bought a big ass bag of coco to try for my next run. I think that when using pure perlite the evaporation rate is too high and too much salt gets left behind.
It's been my experience that when the leaves get thick, leathery, and ridgey like that, you have too much salt in your rootzone and your plants are on their way to being burned.
BTW when I start seedlings in a hempy cup, I give the first two waterings at three days apart with just plain pH balanced water. Then the second week I add in 1/4 strength dose nutes (or try to not go over 250-350 PPM) and switch to every other day if I feel like its needed. But usually on the second week I feed every three too unless the plants show signs of being hungry.
IMO you fed them too soon and the tiny root system couldn't handle the excess food in your medium.
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Re: Seedlings. Cause for concern? [Re: coda]
#518056 - 01/24/11 12:15 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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So it's been 9 days since my original post. I've been doing as I was told and watering with just RO water.
All of my coco plants are looking great. Didn't bother with pictures of those. Stuck with the hempys since I'm concerned with them.
SL Haze. Both of these look scary to me. Especially the first one.
 
W Rhino. Smaller. Weak. some yellowing.
 
And Church. One looks fantastic. Actually the best looker in the bunch. But the other one looks just as sickly as all the other hempy style cups.
 
What should I do? Especially with that first droopy one?
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Re: Seedlings. Cause for concern? [Re: Pandor]
#518252 - 01/24/11 06:25 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Looking at the those leaves on the hempy plants I'd say you're dealing with a nutrient overload at this point. Thick ridged leaves like that is usually indicative of high salt levels. I've had it happen to me a lot with the sprouts, part of the reason I'm moving away from the perlite and into the coco myself.
I dunno, possibly a daily watering of some plain pH balanced water for a little bit might help loosen up some of the extra nutes hanging around the roots. If the water was used up or evaporated before the nutrients were used, then they get left in the medium. If the salts left in the medium are blocking the uptake of other nutrients and/or water then your plants are going to stunt and suffer like they are now.
Perhaps even a tiny flush would be worth it at this point.
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Re: Seedlings. Cause for concern? [Re: coda]
#518289 - 01/24/11 07:12 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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I was watering every other day with the RO water. PH 6.
So I guess I will water them everyday.
Can you elaborate on the "tiny flush"?
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