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Re: how long is too long is a good question, how far can you stretch cannabis longevity? [Re: Iamasmoker] #48719 - 06/02/08 07:40 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)
no, you wouldn't want that either. A plant that goes from flowering to veg will be stressed out. Also, you don't want your plants reverting to veg after it's started producing buds either. It's still early june, if you're looking to increase your yield you still have enough time to taker a bunch of clones and root them. Your clones won't grow as big as your mother plant will, but, they will flower and increase your yield.
Re: how long is too long is a good question, how far can you stretch cannabis longevity? [Re: Sirius] #48834 - 06/02/08 11:36 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)
Quote: I'm not experienced or more than generally familiar with hydroponics, but I think the answer you're looking for has to do with aeration.
Yes, oxygen is essential to healthy and productive roots. Most hydroponic systems still allow for a period of dryness. Flood and drain tables work that way. They flood the tray with water for the plants to use, then after a period of time has passed the water is drained out allowing the roots to breath and dry out. Soiless mixtures still have a period of 1-3 days between waterings allowing the medium and roots to dry.
I think the only exception to the rule i can think of would be a DWC setup, but even then i don't think the entire rootmass is submerged underwater.
Quote: but your saying if the branch your cloning had flowered it'd be stressed out as well, huh?
In the early stages of flowering you're still able to take clones without too much stress on it. If you attempt to take clone a branch that already has buds on it, you'll be putting the clone through a lot of stress.
Re: how long is too long is a good question, how far can you stretch cannabis longevity? [Re: TheMantis] #48999 - 06/02/08 02:37 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)
Quote: That shouldn't matter right now. It's just barely June.
i understand that, i was just pointing the fact out.
Quote: If you take a clone from a flowering plant, will it really be less successful than a clone from a vegging plant. Have you seen the difference in the outcome?
Again i'll reiterate, taking clones from a flowering plant which has only been on 12/12 for 2 weeks or less (2 weeks is usually around the time your buds begin to form) you should be ok.
Now, to answer your question, yes, taking a clone from a plant that's flowering can be less successful then a clone that's taken from a plant in the veg state. Simply put the clone from the veg plant will have the right chemicals/hormones needed for the veg state.
A clone taken from a flowering plant will have to go through more to get back into the vegetative state. First it has to being switching back to the vegetative state by producing the proper chemicals/hormones, then it has to grow roots and begin producing new vegetative growth. So, knowing that, the farther along in flowering you take the clone the harder it's going to be to get it to root and grow again.
I'll also note that it's not an uncommon practice to take clones from a flowering plant. People force sex their plants and then take clones from the females, so it's not an impossible feat. But compared to taking clones from a plant in veg it's more difficult and stressful (for the plant).
Quote: Have you seen the difference in the outcome?
Personally? No, i never take my clones from a flowering plant. However i've read a lot of grow journals and threads where people have. Results vary, i'd say the most common problem was not getting them to root with the next being slow/stunted growth for a while. In some severe, or experimental, cases the end result is usually a plant that turns hermie on you.