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 Chronica
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 2x2 Closet Box 
#3763 - 04/20/08 10:13 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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What kind of grow should I use for a 2'x2'x3.5' grow box. It might be possible to have a couple cfls with two flouros for veg. But If I cant use a seperate room what would you recommend for a 250 watt hps in this box?
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ecto
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Re: 2x2 Closet Box [Re: Chronica]
#3843 - 04/20/08 10:19 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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thats a pretty tight space. hps is going to bake it.
if you use one be sure to vent like crazy but you should really use a bigger space...
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Chronica
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Re: 2x2 Closet Box [Re: ecto]
#4552 - 04/21/08 05:49 AM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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It could be possible to add onto it. it would have to stay a 2ft width. I could maybe make it something like 4'x2'x3.5'. It would have an exhaust, intake, and a fan blowing over the plants. I know this is a small room, but if it stayed 2x2x3.5 what would you reccomend to go inside of it, a few plants scrogged. Or try for sog? Also, what kind of area can the 250 watt cover?
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Re: 2x2 Closet Box [Re: Chronica]
#4743 - 04/21/08 08:40 AM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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probably only have room enough for scrOG. and i wouldnt worry about light penetration at the size of your cab.
just be careful. this still sounds to me like a fire hazard.
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 Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: 2x2 Closet Box [Re: ecto]
#4747 - 04/21/08 08:42 AM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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right now I have a 250w HPS in an area less than 2x2. With my fan ventilating at 95CFM I've never seen the temp above 85. Works great so far provided you don't want to have more than 1 plant going at a time.
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ecto
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while im sure its possible to grow more than 1 in such a small place i dont see SOG as a feasible method. i still say if you want max yield screen a couple/few plants. you'll maximize that small space.
at any rate good luck and be careful.
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ecto
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Re: 2x2 Closet Box [Re: ecto]
#4755 - 04/21/08 08:52 AM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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ugh still early. read that as you could do more than one...
*rubs eyes and yawns*...
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Re: 2x2 Closet Box [Re: ecto]
#4944 - 04/21/08 11:59 AM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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A 2x2 space is four square feet. I would make a small bubbler/dwc and scrog four smaller plants. With a 250HPS and an even 2x2 canopy, you could see decent yields once you got it locked in.
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Edited by ganjahero (04/21/08 11:59 AM)
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Chronica
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Re: 2x2 Closet Box [Re: ganjahero]
#4957 - 04/21/08 12:16 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
ganjahero said:
A 2x2 space is four square feet. I would make a small bubbler/dwc and scrog four smaller plants. With a 250HPS and an even 2x2 canopy, you could see decent yields once you got it locked in.
Im thinking of making another room for veg. If I were to compare the bigger harvests of scrog compared to consistant smaller ones doing an sog. Whats the difference you think in yield vs time? Id prefer to run an sog, it just seems like it yields alot better for the time you put in.
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Re: 2x2 Closet Box [Re: Chronica]
#4983 - 04/21/08 12:35 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Chronica said:
Im thinking of making another room for veg. If I were to compare the bigger harvests of scrog compared to consistant smaller ones doing an sog. Whats the difference you think in yield vs time? Id prefer to run an sog, it just seems like it yields alot better for the time you put in.
you're going to need more space to do a sog. since you are stretched for space scrog will better suit you. even just plain topping will give you better results in a limited space.
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ganjahero
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Re: 2x2 Closet Box [Re: Chronica]
#4985 - 04/21/08 12:37 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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In a space that small a scrog is going to be more efficient than a sog. The more even a canopy the better the light is used and not wasted on empty space. Even light penetration across the top of the whole canopy is going to give you many small colas instead of a few big ones with gaps between them, meaning light lost.
The only way I could see a sog working in that space is putting four plants per square foot. You could get sixteen very small plants or you could scrog four. A sog would most likely be quicker because you wouldnt veg very long but a scrog is more efficient and will only take a few weeks more. I believe with that setup a scrog will yield more.
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And I still think of it as a basic staple in life, along with beer and ice and grapefruits -
and millions of Americans agree with me." - HST
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Re: 2x2 Closet Box [Re: ganjahero]
#4987 - 04/21/08 12:44 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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I did nothing but LST on my plant, and with the right discipline my baby has 8 main colas right now and tons of side shoots. Screening may have been a viable option, but I think my method was far less time consuming.
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ecto
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it's very close to the same sort of idea really.
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Chronica
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Re: 2x2 Closet Box [Re: ganjahero]
#5017 - 04/21/08 12:55 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
ganjahero said:
In a space that small a scrog is going to be more efficient than a sog. The more even a canopy the better the light is used and not wasted on empty space. Even light penetration across the top of the whole canopy is going to give you many small colas instead of a few big ones with gaps between them, meaning light lost.
The only way I could see a sog working in that space is putting four plants per square foot. You could get sixteen very small plants or you could scrog four. A sog would most likely be quicker because you wouldnt veg very long but a scrog is more efficient and will only take a few weeks more. I believe with that setup a scrog will yield more.
thanks for the input. The thing I dont like about scrog is restarting from seed and taking all the time to get bigger plants. While SoG seems like it would keep you harvesting.
Although i could do something like a scrog in there and have a seperate room with 2- 25 watt cfls and two tube flouros. And take cuttings off the mothers before I start flowering to have in the veg room to regrow plants while the mothers flower. Does this sound like the best way maybe?
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ganjahero
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Re: 2x2 Closet Box [Re: Chronica]
#5036 - 04/21/08 01:00 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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Just keep one mother and take clones from her a month before harvest and root it and veg. Then when you harvest you will have rooted vegged clones to put into flower. Then a month before you harvest those, take more clones from your mother and continue the cycle indefinitely.
You can keep a single mother plant alive for years if you maintain it properly.
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And I still think of it as a basic staple in life, along with beer and ice and grapefruits -
and millions of Americans agree with me." - HST
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Chronica
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Re: 2x2 Closet Box [Re: ganjahero]
#5053 - 04/21/08 01:07 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
ganjahero said:
Just keep one mother and take clones from her a month before harvest and root it and veg. Then when you harvest you will have rooted vegged clones to put into flower. Then a month before you harvest those, take more clones from your mother and continue the cycle indefinitely.
You can keep a single mother plant alive for years if you maintain it properly.
I take the clones before the mother preflowers correct?
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ganjahero
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Re: 2x2 Closet Box [Re: Chronica]
#5076 - 04/21/08 01:13 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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As long as the mother is kept under 18-24hrs of light it should never flower. It may show preflowers after a few months though.
The best way to do it is plant some seeds, grow them out for 6-8 weeks under 24hr light. After 6-8 weeks, clone each plant and flower out the clones. Once they show sex, discard the males and either grow out the clones of the females and choose which to keep as a mother by the final product or choose the best looking one, or however you want to choose, to be the mother. Then continuously clone her and keep the cycle going.
By doing this, you only have to buy seeds once and you can keep the genes for generations. When you think its time for new genes, plant some more seeds and choose a different mother.
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"I have always loved marijuana. It has been a source of joy and comfort to me for many years.
And I still think of it as a basic staple in life, along with beer and ice and grapefruits -
and millions of Americans agree with me." - HST
Edited by ganjahero (04/21/08 01:15 PM)
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