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 Herbal
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 UPDATED 5-14! (new 250w HPS/MH) : First Flowers - Indica bagseed *DELETED* 
#404474 - 04/21/10 12:45 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: First plants (2) : Germinated 3-15-10, under 104 cfl watts, 4" jiffy pots etc. *DELETED* [Re: Herbal]
#404476 - 04/21/10 12:49 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: First plants (2) : Germinated 3-15-10, under 104 cfl watts, 4" jiffy pots etc. [Re: Herbal]
#404501 - 04/21/10 05:42 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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The wrinkling is natural. Some strains have deeper folds on the leaf ridges than others. They look real nice! It's nice to see a noob get a great start on your first plants. Keep it up! 
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Re: First plants (2) : Germinated 3-15-10, under 104 cfl watts, 4" jiffy pots etc. [Re: DrGreenThumb]
#404541 - 04/21/10 08:35 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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The wrinkling is natural. Some strains have deeper folds on the leaf ridges than others. They look real nice! It's nice to see a noob get a great start on your first plants. Keep it up!
Yeah they look textbook so far just keep on keeping on. Nice touch for your first grow. 
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Re: First plants (2) : Germinated 3-15-10, under 104 cfl watts, 4" jiffy pots etc. [Re: Herbal]
#404561 - 04/21/10 10:06 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Looking great, Herbal!  I used to hang around the mush cult forums but, I've also just recently gotten started in this hobby; and it's AWESOME!!
It's obvious that you've done your homework. Good job there. In comparison, personally I've had to do much more research for this hobby than for fungi fun but, that's mostly just because the Shroomery is so kick ass and has it pretty much all laid out for you over there.
I'm sure I'll enjoy keeping up with your journal. 
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Re: First plants (2) : Good Bagseed, Germinated 3-15-10 under 104 CFL watts, 4 *DELETED* [Re: Herbal]
#406090 - 04/24/10 02:23 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: First plants (2) : Good Bagseed, Germinated 3-15-10 under 104 CFL watts, 4 [Re: Herbal]
#406483 - 04/25/10 12:59 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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So i think i have a hunch to the saggy plant, i think i am watering her too much, i am almost positive. Can over watering make a plant droop? She looks nice and dark and healthy just the fan leaves are sagging and blocking light from hitting the inner shoots.
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 Re: First plants (2) : Good Bagseed, Germinated 3-15-10 under 104 CFL watts, 4 [Re: Herbal]
#406764 - 04/26/10 04:24 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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I love the bagseed grows...you just never know what you're going to get!
And look at those broad leaves. Damn! Indica-dominant, it looks like. Looking forward to the budz.
I wish you good luck Herbal on your first grow! I'll try to help out with my limited experience, but nothing too over the top, that I don't know.
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And check out that reflector! Very nice man, very professional. I bet it gets some good cooling.
Here's To your First Grow Herbal!  
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Re: First plants (2) : Good Bagseed, Germinated 3-15-10 under 104 CFL watts, 4 [Re: Herbal]
#406826 - 04/26/10 09:42 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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So i think i have a hunch to the saggy plant, i think i am watering her too much, i am almost positive. Can over watering make a plant droop?
How often are you watering? The droopy plant you posted actually looks thirsty judging from the dryness of the soil.
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Re: First plants (2) : Good Bagseed, Germinated 3-15-10 under 104 CFL watts, 4 [Re: TrueHerbCrystal]
#406861 - 04/26/10 11:15 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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what up Herbal
The drooping looks like over-watering to me. Your soil doesn't appear sopping wet though. If it is definitely on the wet side try letting your surface soil dry out before feeding her again, like the top inch of soil. Other than that, the little kid is looking damn good!
I wouldn't discard any leaves at this stage of growth. Actually you shouldn't have to prune any of her leaves unless you are simply assisting her in removing diseased or burnt leaves, or topping to create multiple main colas. You may notice in the future that the plant will drop some fan leaves off the main stalk or other leaves that are just not getting enough light to be anymore use to her. So she extracts any usable nutrients from them and they fall off or you can pluck them off for her.
As far as over-kill. I don't believe there is such a term in this hobby. LoL! With 12- 26w CFLs you are looking at a total of about 19,000 Lumens. They say to have a minimum of 2,000-3,000 lumens per sq.ft. and your area doesn't look any bigger than 4 sq.ft. so 19,000 lum/4 sq.ft. = 4,750 lumens per sq.ft. This is my guess of course but you can do the math after you figure out the footprint dimensions of your grow area, then divide your total output of lumens but that number. I got the figure 19,000 because a typical 26w daylight cfl has a lumen output of 1,600,give or take. So its not overkill but it will definitely get the job done. The only change I would make(IMO) is to leave the 6 cfl's overhead an relocate the other 6 bulbs horizontal to her. This will give more light penetration to all part of the plants instead of just the higher bud-sites. This is a must if you are trying to achieve a bushier plant with CFL's. If you want a short & bushy plant keep the cfl's overhead within a couple inches and place the side bulbs slightly futher away so the side shoots reach out to the light. Once they get past the above fan leaves or branches blocking light from above, then move the cfls closer so she can fill out. I found this to be easier if you continually keep the branch horizontal with twist ties or whichever training wire you may have. If the fan leaves are sagging over new growth then don't drown her with water and they'll pirk up. LoL! Then those new side bulbs should have no issue hitting those shady areas, right?
If it makes it easier for ya I can post some example pix of my setup to show you how I achieved this. Plants under CFL's dont stretch if done right. I will find out soon if they can in fact produce "dense bud" like an HPS system. Apparently it's not possible but I'm gunna find out for myself.
Nothing is "impossible".
Will be following your thread for sure bro! Good luck with your grow!
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Re: First plants (2) : Good Bagseed, Germinated 3-15-10 under 104 CFL watts, 4 [Re: Herbal]
#407125 - 04/26/10 04:54 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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WOW!! Now THAT's a DIY lighting setup to win my heart!! Haha, now I feel motivated to get off my ass and build a decent reflector, myself.
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Re: First plants (2) : Good Bagseed, Germinated 3-15-10 under 104 CFL watts, 4 [Re: Crusty Ass Bastard]
#407378 - 04/26/10 10:29 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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THC-
Yeah these plants both look indica dominant, One of the smokes was really head sigh so i don't know, i guess it could still be indica. Thanks for the compliments and help offer.
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I was watering everyday, just not much, just so the soil was loose and light but moist. Last night i really watered her, we'll see if it helps or gets worse.
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I actually held back from watering for a couple of days and it seemed to worsen so i just watered her pretty well and we'll see what happens. Yeah i kind of figured not to prune etc. but i wasn't sure, some of the inner leafs look kind of weak that's why i asked. And Thanks for all the tips and compliments, one of them about the lights hanging is a great idea, i think i seen it on a grow before, so i'll try that when i get everything setup. You can post some pics if you want, it always help seeing other people's setups, a community of tried and proven ideas always helps.
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Thanks bro  It was pretty easy, and pretty cheap. I think the 2x6 i had laying around, the particle board was like $3.00, 2-pack of strips was $8, eye screws were another $1, rope and extension cord i also had laying around. $12 minus bulbs.
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Re: First plants (2) : Good Bagseed, Germinated 3-15-10 under 104 CFL watts, 4 [Re: Herbal]
#407496 - 04/27/10 07:41 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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I was watering everyday, just not much, just so the soil was loose and light but moist. Last night i really watered her, we'll see if it helps or gets worse.
Yeah try to make sure you water until there is run-off from the bottom of your pots. Roots like going down for water as opposed to up which they will do if you're only watering lightly on top. Then instead of watering every day you should be able to go 3-4 days or until the soil has almost completely dried out again (pick up the pots and gauge the weight).
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Re: First plants (2) : Good Bagseed, Germinated 3-15-10 under 104 CFL watts, 4 [Re: Crusty Ass Bastard]
#408092 - 04/28/10 12:16 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well 206,
You nailed it. When the plants started to droop I figured I was over watering so I let them sit for a couple of days and they were getting worse and worse. So when I watered them I watered them enough that water came through the bottom. I woke up the next day to two REALLY healthy looking plants with several inches of growth, maybe 4 or 5, (Not exaggerating) and fan leaves sitting horizontal, so I'm one happy camper right now! Thanks!
I will have an update soon with pics, I moved the plants to their new location with a couple new lights for side lighting.
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Re: First plants (2) : Good Bagseed, Germinated 3-15-10 under 104 CFL watts, 4 *DELETED* [Re: Herbal]
#408169 - 04/28/10 01:58 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: First plants (2) : Good Bagseed, Germinated 3-15-10 under 104 CFL watts, 4 [Re: Herbal]
#408203 - 04/28/10 02:29 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Herbal said:I have a dumb question if you guys don't mind, Should I start the LST on the taller plant? I plan to do a scrog with the both of them if possible but my smaller plant just likes to sit low and wide, not sure why this is. That comes to my second question, Is there anything i should do to stretch her out lighting wise or just let her do her own thing?
They both appear to be afghan/indica dominant which is why the shorter one is so bushy. You certainly don't want to give it less light to encourage stretching. I would recommend pruning the bottom 1-2 nodes which will spur more vertical growth on that one and at the same time LST or top the taller plant to get them more evened out for scrog. The problem you face is what happens once your scrog is up and running and one of them turns out to be male? Probably better to wait until next go around when you have clones from a known fem or fem seeds just my two cents.
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Re: First plants (2) : Good Bagseed, Germinated 3-15-10 under 104 CFL watts, 4 [Re: Herbal]
#408241 - 04/28/10 03:10 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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With just two plants, why not try your hand at LST? It'll serve all the same functions of a screen and, for me at least, has been much less time consuming than having to work under a screen.
Don't get me wrong, I want to try a ScrOG grow again myself but it'll definitely be with clones and I would want at least 4 or 5 plants to justify the screen. Any less and LST is your best friend, in my humble and very limited experience.
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Re: First plants (2) : Good Bagseed, Germinated 3-15-10 under 104 CFL watts, 4 [Re: 13eetleJuice]
#408521 - 04/28/10 09:11 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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206-
I think i will prune the bottom couple sets, the only problem i see doing so is on the second from bottom node there is a really nice healthy shoot starting and where the base starts at the stem there is a fan leaf coming off, should i prune the whole shoot or just the fan leaf and the bottom node? About the scrogg, I didn't really think of it like that, I guess I am dealing with bagseed  , and I'm sure pulling a male from a scrog is a pain in the ass.
Beetle-
The LST is a much better idea than scrog at this point, especially if I snag a male. I was going to just use some yarn, I don't want to cut or damage her with too thin of string. (I ended up using a fucking shoelace!)
One quick question I have that I forgot to ask and couldn't find in the forums was, Does smell have anything to do with sex? The tall plant is really starting to smell, well, really skunky.
And thanks for the ideas guys.
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Re: First plants (2) : Good Bagseed, Germinated 3-15-10 under 104 CFL watts, 4 [Re: Herbal]
#408663 - 04/29/10 07:53 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think i will prune the bottom couple sets, the only problem i see doing so is on the second from bottom node there is a really nice healthy shoot starting and where the base starts at the stem there is a fan leaf coming off, should i prune the whole shoot or just the fan leaf and the bottom node? About the scrogg, I didn't really think of it like that, I guess I am dealing with bagseed , and I'm sure pulling a male from a scrog is a pain in the ass.
You want to cut the entire node off each side as close to the stalk as possible, starting at the bottom with the cotyledon. Also you will want to start LST on the other one really soon because the earlier you start the easier it is.
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One quick question I have that I forgot to ask and couldn't find in the forums was, Does smell have anything to do with sex? The tall plant is really starting to smell, well, really skunky.
Males can reek just as much during veg if its a stinky strain. Wait until 2~ weeks into 12/12 or until you see pre-flowers.
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Re: First plants (2) : Good Bagseed, Germinated 3-15-10 under 104 CFL watts, 4 [Re: Crusty Ass Bastard]
#408969 - 04/29/10 06:40 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well 206, I'm rollin with what you say, you're grow logs are to dream for so I have been going for it. I trimmed the bottom 2 nodes from my bush and tied my tall bitch down, seems like in 24 hours she has fully recovered and made an Z kind of shape. My question with LST is do I rotate the way I pull and pull her the opposite way now or keep her to one side? I cannot find any LST how-to's besides the overview which doesn't go into too much detail of how to do it.
http://www.growery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/239250#239250
I will try to snap a few pics and upload them tonight if I have time.
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Re: First plants (2) : Good Bagseed, Germinated 3-15-10 under 104 CFL watts, 4 [Re: Herbal]
#409083 - 04/29/10 09:49 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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I first used a shoe lace, then bought some actual plant tie downs from home-depot. I was really careful not to pin or tie down actual plant growth, and to move all the growing shoots towards the top, hopefully this is the correct thing to do.
  
I also spotted what I imagine is a pre-flower, hopefully not a male but they are so small it's really hard to tell right now.
Also if you notice on this picture, this is the plant I trimmed, I left the top half of that node, should I clip it off as well? All I removed from it were a fan leaf on each side that were starting to wilt.
Anyway tell me what you think about the LST and if it's done correctly and if you think that's a pre-flower.
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Re: First plants (2) : Good Bagseed, Germinated 3-15-10 under 104 CFL watts, 4 [Re: Herbal]
#411405 - 05/04/10 12:12 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hell yeah! I'm loving all these shroomery people trying their hand at Cannabis! That's exactly the background I come from so it's great to see other people exploring
Looks to me like you might be overwatering just slightly but they're looking great
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Re: First plants (2) : Good Bagseed, Germinated 3-15-10 under 104 CFL watts, 4 [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#411421 - 05/04/10 01:23 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Short and sweet, One male, One Female... I will post a full update tomorrow.
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Re: First plants (2) : Good Bagseed, Germinated 3-15-10 under 104 CFL watts, 4 [Re: Herbal]
#412173 - 05/04/10 10:23 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Okay big update, and I'm HIGH AS FUCK. So I had one plant really taking well to some LST, started going every which way I intended it to with no problems. Things started showing up what I thought to be preflowers, but really couldn't be for sure, shit this still is my first attempt at cannabis. From what I could tell, they started looking more male by the day. This kept me so distracted from the other plant that I would continue to check on the healthier plant, the plant that was doing so well at training but was scaring me of a male more by the day.
 
Finally when I checked my other plant closely behind inside vegetation I noticed the longer looking pods with 1/2" hairs coming out, some with two. So frantically knowing I had a female, and still 80% sure I had a male, I couldn't risk it, I killed the plant.
 
  
So like I said earlier, my male was the healthier plant. This plant has some problems going on that I kind of am stumped on what to do. First things first, It's short, really short. The new node shoots stick close to the stem and the fan leafs are fucking HUGE, almost a dinner plate. Second some leafs have burn hole looking spots almost an acid, rotting look to them, and the leafs are almost wavy like if you stretched out a shirt, it wouldn't look symmetrical. Any help at this point is GREATLY appreciated. I try to read as much as I can a day and I am always on here, but it's hard absorbing it all in 
   
  
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 Re: First plants (2) : Good Bagseed, Germinated 3-15-10 under 104 CFL watts, 4 [Re: Herbal]
#412248 - 05/05/10 12:09 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Looks pretty good, but a few things:
When growing with MGMC soil you will hardly ever have to water, and almost certainly won't have to add fertilizer, making veg cycle pretty effortless. HOWEVER, the downside is toxic nitrogen levels during flower, coupled with pH problems. Your plants are starting to show the first signs of nutrient burn. The stunted vertical growth is probably due to low pH since MG is peat based.
I'm not sure if I'm qualified to hand out advice, but I think your girl is begging for you to let up on N so she can suck up some P at a higher pH. With that said, there are many avenues you can take.. the obvious ones being ride it out or flush. Now if it was up to me, I'd just carefully throw her (dirty rootball and all) in a bucket with 100% chunky perlite, and water with some guano, etc. Sounds odd, but I've done it with great success.
Other than that, it is good practice to cut right down to the stalk when you trim, for example, lower fan leaves. Leaving dead stuff on or around a plant attracts pests, plus slows recovery. Also, when I LST, I literally just hang big glass beads from branches I want to weigh down for new shoots. A fan makes the dangling beads sway, giving the branch a good workout.
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Re: First plants (2) : Good Bagseed, Germinated 3-15-10 under 104 CFL watts, 4 [Re: Squints]
#412874 - 05/06/10 01:55 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Finally when I checked my other plant closely behind inside vegetation I noticed the longer looking pods with 1/2" hairs coming out, some with two. So frantically knowing I had a female, and still 80% sure I had a male, I couldn't risk it, I killed the plant.
Honestly bro I would have waited a little longer before discarding that one. By looking at the first 2 pics i was giving it a 50/50 chance Next time maybe wait till they look something like this:
My oldest female I am currently vegging had 2 pistillate pre-flowers before having actual pistils emerge from the pre-flowers a few nodes down the road. A couple of them looked very similar to this photo you took here:
https://files.growery.org/files/g10-18/303142198-IMG_3824.jpg]
IDK. I'd hate to say it but I think you jumped the gun on that one. But I'd see what the rest of the team says before you get too bummed out about it.
On the more positive side of things, Im lovin your introduction of SIDE lighting. You will notice a difference soon if you haven't already. To utilize that CFL thats dangling, why not throw a y-splitter there as well like you did with the head fixture? And to get even better penetration make a couple cheap reflectors that you can literally just duct tape them on like the one I made here:
LoL! I thought I already had an example pic to show you but apparently I didn't so I just pulled a Martha Stewart and slapped one together to show you what im talking about. lol =D Anyway, you get the picture.. it's simple and effective.
Good Luck my friend!
Everythings looking good so far!
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Also, when I LST, I literally just hang big glass beads from branches I want to weigh down for new shoots. A fan makes the dangling beads sway, giving the branch a good workout.
Hey squints thats actually pretty hilarious you say that cause I was just going to try out string and lead fishing weights, you know, the clam style ones that you can just clamp on and off. How do you prefer this method compared to the tie down approach?
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Re: First plants (2) : Good Bagseed, Germinated 3-15-10 under 104 CFL watts, 4 [Re: GANJA_FAHMA]
#413333 - 05/06/10 11:57 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Shit just got real 
Today i found a 250w HPS\MH (according to the guy)HydroFarm light with built in ballast and came with 2 bulbs all for $70. I figured I couldn't beat $70 for a single kind of light setup anyway. Shit I paid more for my CFL's, and I still needed to buy the right spectrum to switch now that I'm approaching flowering.
My question to you guys is, do any of you know exactly what model this is? And if not, what would happen if you swapped bulbs on something that doesn't match? The guy said they work together but I just want to make sure, these bulbs look dangerous as fuck and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't like my house in ash form. I looked around and it doesn't have a model number, or name. Online the lights I found from HydroFarm don't have much detail to what models they are or what they can do. Any help finding out what it is or what hazards fucking up might cause will be greatly appreciated.
 
 
This is the box from the HPS bulb, not sure if you can say if would work but I don't really understand these bulbs and ballasts yet.
  
Thanks squints for stopping by, the beads thing is cool, i like that idea, I wouldn't have thought of that for a while. And thanks for the tip on flushing, I was reading the cannabis grow bible from jorge and read something about lack of K I think it was would cause a lot of the spotting I am having. So I'm planning a big flush on friday and switching nutes/250w hps light/12-12 to see what starts to happen.
Thanks for all the great tips also Ghanja, that reflector with the windshield mylar is a great idea, I think I will use it if I still need sidelight after the 250w HPS. I'm not sure I will thought, what do you think?
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Re: First plants (2) : Good Bagseed, Germinated 3-15-10 under 104 CFL watts, 4 [Re: GANJA_FAHMA]
#413340 - 05/07/10 12:17 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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How do you prefer this method compared to the tie down approach?
I like it better in most cases because there is no fussing with tying, buttoning, fastening, etc, plus the extra range of motion makes trimming/inspecting easier. I've used 50, and 100 gram weights as well. However, when a plant gets big enough its best to stick to ties and stakes, because I've had branches snap from too much weight, and wind especially outdoors.
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Re: First plants (2) : Good Bagseed, Germinated 3-15-10 under 104 CFL watts, 4 [Re: Squints]
#413343 - 05/07/10 12:23 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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The light doesn't tell the story, It's the bulb that does.
http://www.eyelighting.com/tb/HPS/HPSSUA/EQS-N-52-78-62443.pdf
The bulb is smart enough to convert, that's fucking amazing. Guess I'm good to go
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Re: First plants (2) : Good Bagseed, Germinated 3-15-10 under 104 CFL watts, 4 [Re: Herbal]
#413364 - 05/07/10 02:23 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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With the area you are working in I think the 250w hps will be enough light for sure and you probably wont need the cfl's on the side unless your grow area is not light tight, if its not then you may want to use them to substitute any light that will be lost. And nothing should burn down as long as that ballast is rated for the bulb its operating. Nice find my friend!
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Re: First plants (2) : Good Bagseed, Germinated 3-15-10 under 104 CFL watts, 4 [Re: Herbal]
#413385 - 05/07/10 08:23 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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WOW! Nice find! 250w fixture w/ HPS & MH bulbs included for $70!?!?!?!? Ahhhhh!!!!!  
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Re: First plants (2) : Good Bagseed, Germinated 3-15-10 under 104 CFL watts, 4 [Re: 13eetleJuice]
#413937 - 05/08/10 01:20 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Indeed, our grows are looking the same more and more as time goes by, just sucks because I am still waiting to flower. good luck
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Re: First plants (2) : Good Bagseed, Germinated 3-15-10 under 104 CFL watts, 4 [Re: creep 1nc]
#413985 - 05/08/10 02:35 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's what i was thinking too Ghanja with this light, actually I was almost thinking it was overkill and wish I had 4 plants in the same area. Everything has been good with the light so far, it's blinding bright, I actually think I fucked up my eyes for a while, lol. I still need to dump some flat white paint on the walls in the room I am growing since its bare brick, and some mylar probably wouldn't hurt either.
I know Beetle! That's what I thought when I seen the ad, in the ad it only said MH and I still thought it was worth it. When I showed up the guy said he bought a HPS bulb also for $85 that will work on it as well and felt like it was a steal. So far I'm really happy with the light output (25,000 Initial 22,500 Mean).
I have a question for you guys, I have introduced the plant into 12/12, and the 2100k temp spectrum, I am also in the middle of flushing, so far I have put through 3 gallons of water in 12 hours and only plan to do one more gallon.
So the question is... What nutes do I switch to? I know the NPK needs to switch to higher P-K and less N but what about second string nutes? I have found a local grocery store that carries foxfarm (I know right?), I don't think they have the full line but they do have happy frog soil, almost all peace of mind products, Grow Big liquid, Tiger Bloom liquid, and also Big Bloom liquid. Which ones should I pick up? They also have Peace of mind Bat Guano in a box, not sure if it's any good that's why I'm asking. Nutrients are the only thing that really scares the shit out of me, and are somewhat confusing at this point.
I am in somewhat of a hurry I guess since my plant will hopefully be swept of all the salts and nutes in her soil now, and will be ready for some new right away. Any help as always is greatly welcome.
Edited by Herbal (05/09/10 04:56 AM)
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Re: First plants (2) : Good Bagseed, Germinated 3-15-10 under 104 CFL watts, 4 [Re: Herbal]
#414527 - 05/09/10 12:30 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have been reading a lot of forums and a lot of grows lately all over the net, After THC got busted it got me a little worried but then I talked myself into believing that his situation wouldn't happen to be since I don't go to raves etc. Then I read another story where a guy got busted from cops just watching his house.
Shit is making me really paranoid. I have a guaranteed healthy female, and a sweet new light setup that I feel will help me get some guaranteed smoke out of, just don't want to get handed by the man.
What kind of punishment could you be looking at if you were busted with just one plant? Is it a slap on the wrist or are we talking felonies and prison time for one plant? Pretty crazy that you can go to prison for years with thousands of dollars in fines for a plant that makes you relaxed and laugh. I have seen families with drunks that beat their kids and spend money on beer instead of diapers and everyone just looks the other way, What kind of country do we live in...
Right now it's a flip of a coin if i keep this plant going... It would be a waste of time, money, and excitement but a bigger waste if i lost my career, house, freedom, asshole virginity etc.
Edited by Herbal (05/09/10 02:01 PM)
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Re: First plants (2) : Good Bagseed, Germinated 3-15-10 under 104 CFL watts, 4 [Re: Herbal]
#415263 - 05/10/10 03:10 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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fuck it! keep it going and don't tell a soul (well besides us folks on the other end of cyberspace) if and it is a big fucking IF, they wanted to find somebody online it would definitely not be you (no offense) Don't be paranoid, when I started growing shroomies I was that way for a while, was even nervous going to starbucks to get grinds. A casual attitude is the best camouflage to have. throw some veggie seeds in some pots or garden..........the absolute best way to not feel scared/paranoid/nervous. once I learned how to cultivate edible mushrooms proficiently not a single soul suspected any wrong doing (although in my heart there is none). know more about veggies/edibles than others and they will get intimidated and shut the fuck up.
*sorry for off topic post
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