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DieselB
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1200w HPS Indoor Closet Hempy Grow, 3 strains - (Updated Pics 7-31-10)
#396525 - 04/05/10 03:00 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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*******This was a 600w grow till around the 5th/6th week of flower when I added another 600w light*******
This grow contains:
2x White Widow x Big Bud (Female Seed Co) 2x Venus Flytrap (Nirvana) fem 3x ICE (Nirvana) fem 1x Safari Mix (Mandala) freebie.. (BOY)
These are growing in straight perlite, I started them in jiffy pellets, every one I planted came up. Been above ground since April 3rd, just moved them into their temp. home in plastic cups. Will be moved to 5gal buckets when they fill out the cups.
Was seriously considering SCRoG, but I think I may just end up tying them down..
Will post pics in a day or two, after they get some real leaves.
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-Bagseed are still a little sickly from a ph imbalance about a month long, have the meter now though, they are coming around, I'll post them once they green up some more.
-Now using the AN 3-part in Lucas ratio for the bagseed.
-Obtained a bottle of FloraNova Grow today, this will be used on the good seeds, plan to pick up the bloom next month after I'm getting a little closer to the 12/12 switch, will probably suppliment with Kool Bloom, and maybe Gravity, not 100% decided yet. Also Picked up Dark Energy "A proud Product of Humboldt County" actually made by American Hydro.. The guys at my local shop seem to love the stuff.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#398297 - 04/08/10 11:49 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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First update 4-8. They are 5 days old.
First Venus Flytrap
Second Venus Flytrap
White Widow x Big Bud #1
and #2
Mandala Safari Mix, Seed #1
Ice plant #1 (No more curled leaf!)
Ice #2
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Couple pics for today, 4-10-10.
Two ice plants seem to be doing well.
The Mandala Safari Mix plant seems to be growing the quickest.
And Here's a shot of the bagseed plants as promised.
Bout a month old, just been getting the right Ph and HID for about a week now. They did have lockout pretty bad before that.. Seem to be coming back pretty well though.
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4-12-10, Noticed weird growth from one of my WWxBB crosses, the growth tip isn't like one I've seen before, its more of a "cup" at the tip, and the stem connecting it to the main stem seems elongated.
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Update 4-14-10
Good solid growth from all of them, they got their first dose of Floranova grow last night, 190ppm and ph of 5.9. Seem to be doing fine with it so far.
Ice #1
Ice #2
WW x BB #1
WW x BB #2 Still looking retarded with no growth tip, think I'm gonna have to wait till it branches between the first node to get some action.
Venus Fly Trap #1
Venus Fly Trap #2
Mandala Safari Mix plant, still the beast of the group, probably a male..
------------------------- Still 4-14 Starting to FIM and LST the bagseed, now that they are regaining health.
First FIM on the shortest and widest bagseed.
This one also got FIM'd and is really branching out good on the bottom, not sexed yet though, I'm leaning male..
Though here's one from the same seed and it is a girl. Starting to branch out nicely
This one was tall and lanky with no bottom growth at all, I had even removed the bottom fans because they were basically dead anyway, I tied this thing down barely a week ago, and look at all the new growth already.
Same one top view.
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4-20-10 / 18 days old.
Ice #1
Ice #2
Venus Flytrap #1
Venus Flytrap #2
White Widow x Big Bud #1
White Widow x Big Bud #2, turned out how I thought, I guess it'll just grow topped from the start. What a weird lookin' plant..
And finally, the Mandala monster.
---------- 4/29/10
Here's a few group shots, of the main 7 and the 2 newest seedlings, I feel like the growth is kinda lackluster for 26 days on these bigger ones.. I don't know
They got a little burn goin' on because I raised the lights a little. They all also seem to be having the first set of leaves yellowing and drooping, I thought it was signs of being cramped at first, but I checked roots on the biggest one and they are just reaching the bottom.. If you have any ideas I'm open to suggestions.
And the bagseed ladies got consolidated:
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Ice 1 & 2
Venus Flytrap 1 & 2
WW X BB #1
My favorite plant now in training, White Widow x Big Bud #2
Mandala Plant
And then heres Ice & WWxBB #3
------------------ Update 5/19, Two weeks after transplant of main six.
First up, white widow x big bud #2, I fucking love this plant, its growing beatifully.
Next is the best Flytrap which I think was number two?
And here's the best Ice plant
And here's my still untransplanted seedlings that could obviuosly be bigger because of it, and the bag tub. ----------*************------------************----------*********----- 5/29 Gonna switch to flower tomorrow. Here they are:
Largest of the bunch, the two monster ICE plants.
Next up, The Fly Trap Sisters: , Top shot
Here's our White Widow x Big Bud girls:
And last and least(size anyway) Ice and WWxBB number three:
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Flowering update number one 6/14, two weeks into flower. I didn't take individual pics, I'm super lazy today, I'll get more in a day or two.
******************************************************* 6/17, Week three. Eighteen Days into flowering. Still in randoom order, I'm really slackin' these days..
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Flowering update # 3, 24 days flowering.
Here's the Ice plants: WWxBB:
Flytrap:
********************************************** Flowering update number 4. 33 days flowering.
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Flowering Update number 5, 38 days into flower.
Venus Flytrap number 2:
White Widow x Big Bud number 2: Geting some seriously dense buds on this one, you can see in a couple pictures the angle the branches are growing at because of the weight already.
ICE number 2:
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Flowering Update number 6, 44 days into flower.
Ice 1:
Ice 2:
Ice 3:
VFT 1:
VFT 2:
White Widow x Big Bud 2: leaning hard from heavy ass colas.
White Widow x Big Bud 3: This is the one that smells like juicy fruit gum.
***** Update 7 I think? Flowering day number 62.*************
One of the Fly Trap's got chopped down this past sunday, which was the 8 week mark on the nose. I also harvested WWxBB II a day or two previous to that and it was highly unimpressive and thats why there are no pics, I just decided I'd smoke on that one for now to keep me going until I can get a proper dry and atleast short cure. Theres that and my Ice plants still have a fuck ton of white pistils and clear trichome's.. Even though its nearly leafless and quite yellow, trying to keep it alive, it got a small dose of just FNB yesterday, I wanna let it finish out right but I don't wanna keep giving it food... Anyway, here's the Flytrap 'fore it got knocked down.
And heres a couple shots of whats left of the girls in the garden. They were taken through my passive intake on the end of the room.
Edited by DieselB (07/31/10 01:53 PM)
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#398395 - 04/08/10 04:38 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Glad to see another hempy grow in the logs! First time growing hempy?
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: coda]
#398436 - 04/08/10 05:52 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yup, sure is. I'm liking it so far, took me a little while to get the swing of things. Tortured some bagseed gettin' used to it, hoping to have some good results.
I also decided to stop fooling around and went ahead to the store and picked up a bottle of Floranova grow. I'll keep the AN stuff around for my bagseed and whatever else it comes in handy for, seems to do well on the girlfriends herb garden.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#399074 - 04/09/10 09:06 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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how often do you water diesel? what is your schedule? Im really interested in seeing how this turns out.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: Epoo]
#399078 - 04/09/10 09:18 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'll be watching this. Hella interested in hempy method.
WHOOP!
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: Epoo]
#399356 - 04/10/10 01:52 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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For seedlings I don't really fill the bottom Hempy style, I just keep wetting them a little everyday so that the top layer of perlite stays wet and supply's good moisture to the seedlings, this is important when you have such little plants under HID lighting, they can dry out quick.
Regular watering of mature plants get's done about every three days, if they look like they're doing well on food I will water with just ph corrected water every other time. Sometimes when they are hungry I may feed them two three times in a row. That will probably change quite a bit after the transplant though, and as the plants progresses through different stages.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: hopanshrubman]
#399357 - 04/10/10 01:53 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
hopanshrubman said: I'll be watching this. Hella interested in hempy method.
WHOOP!
Good luck to your darlings and to you!
Thanks a lot, I'm hoping to have some good results worth watching.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#399372 - 04/10/10 03:04 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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I want to see that ICE take off. I'm interested in growing it in the future.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DrGreenThumb]
#399376 - 04/10/10 03:22 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've got high hopes for the ICE too, it was the first strain I picked on this order.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#399392 - 04/10/10 03:58 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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ICE is nice. It right up up there on my list with Super Silver Haze.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DrGreenThumb]
#399520 - 04/10/10 10:45 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've been considering doing SSH next round, gearing more towards the sativa side for that one. I have Neville's Haze Hybrid waiting for that cycle already.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#400742 - 04/13/10 04:02 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Decided to start one more Ice and one more WW x BB, as I am looking at keeping a mother of both. Figured three of each gives me a little better chance at having a nice vigorous mom. Not to mention the one ww x bb is being all retarded and lacking a true growth tip at the moment.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#401364 - 04/14/10 02:00 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Update Pics on seedlings, bagseed training pictures to come in a couple hours after a charge.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#401366 - 04/14/10 02:02 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#401491 - 04/14/10 07:13 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Training pics are up.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#402788 - 04/16/10 02:01 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ice and WW x BB seeds #3 are above ground as of 4-16-10
Ice on the left and White WIdow x Big Bud on the right.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#402824 - 04/16/10 02:22 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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:drool: I love a girl with a big bush, lol.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#403354 - 04/17/10 11:52 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
DieselB said: For seedlings I don't really fill the bottom Hempy style, I just keep wetting them a little everyday so that the top layer of perlite stays wet and supply's good moisture to the seedlings, this is important when you have such little plants under HID lighting, they can dry out quick.
Regular watering of mature plants get's done about every three days, if they look like they're doing well on food I will water with just ph corrected water every other time. Sometimes when they are hungry I may feed them two three times in a row. That will probably change quite a bit after the transplant though, and as the plants progresses through different stages.
correct me if Im wrong.. I know trying not to over water is important. but if you added a little bit extra, would the heat from your HID evaporate upwards kinda hydrating your perlite as it evaporated?
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: Epoo]
#403422 - 04/18/10 08:21 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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The lights do evaporate the moisture to an extent, but it seems they only effect the first inch or so of medium. After that, if you just dig down a little you can tell its still moist.
The perlite wicks pretty well though, say if you just water one side of the container, the other side will become moist pretty quickly.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#403470 - 04/18/10 12:05 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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So here's Ice #3 just trasplanted into a cup.
And here's White Widow x Big Bud #3 just trasplanted as well. Three cotyledons showing with only two real leaves showing, maybe the third will grow in by tomorrow.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#403475 - 04/18/10 12:52 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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looking good man, How do you tie your plants down?
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: Epoo]
#403484 - 04/18/10 01:23 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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When I can find it, cheap garden wire, just plastic coated steel wire. When I don't have that, I have some insulated, solid core, copper wire that works great too. I make the wire into a little hook on both ends, pop a hole in the cup, hook in the one end, bend the plant over and hook it(about 2-2.5 inches above rim of the cup). Once I see secondary shoots growing out and they get long enough I put a little hook around them too.
Best thing to do is play around a little bit and see what works best for you. Everyone has a slightly different angle on tying their plants down, and all kinds of different methods work well.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#403585 - 04/18/10 09:16 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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how does this benefit? does it keep it from growing upward? so you have more room?
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: Epoo]
#403597 - 04/18/10 09:47 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Sure, it keeps the plant short, makes it bush out and puts most of the lower budsites (that normally wouldn't get much light) at a more even level with the top of the plant so you get multiple main cola's. Also increases branching, thus creating more budsite's.
Works great if you are confined on space, but you will probably notice people without space constraints using this method too. I think LST is the shit, and everyday I watch my babies grow while being trained I can see how much potential they are gaining as opposed to not being trained.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#403715 - 04/19/10 06:43 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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yeah, I love watching LST in action. Plants growing are a beautiful thing....
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: aspore]
#404096 - 04/20/10 09:00 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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4/20 picture update. Goin' strong.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#404351 - 04/20/10 06:52 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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wheres the pics hoss!
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: Epoo]
#404374 - 04/20/10 08:03 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Look at the first page, I update pics on the second post so I can keep 'em together.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#404455 - 04/20/10 11:20 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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ahh ok. I just planted me some pineapple express train wreck and a flower power lowryder. gonna torture the flower power with some LST like you got going on
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: Epoo]
#405777 - 04/23/10 07:34 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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So I stuck my seedlings on top of a bucket to put them up about 14 inches closer to the light, which would still be more than 12 inches away.. They hate me for it. All sad and droopy, hopefully they come back around and perk up later. Just another fine example showing you that light stress is real. I usually only go a couple inches at a time, and I went and got anxious. Now I feel a little dumb..
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#405783 - 04/23/10 08:09 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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DieselB said: So I stuck my seedlings on top of a bucket to put them up about 14 inches closer to the light, which would still be more than 12 inches away.. They hate me for it. All sad and droopy, hopefully they come back around and perk up later. Just another fine example showing you that light stress is real. I usually only go a couple inches at a time, and I went and got anxious. Now I feel a little dumb..
Ideally you want 375 lumens hitting seedlings and early clones as anything less can promote stretchiness and anything more will not be absorbed. If I vegged with my 600 I would keep it 48+" away until they are well established fwiw. I'm sure they will bounce back strong in a couple days you have a nice setup and know what you're doing.
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Thanks, man. I'm sure you're right, I gave them a little feeding to cool em off and set them back down to around 30" away where they have been going strong.
48 inches, huh? I may just pull it back some, when I had it about 38" away I felt like they weren't getting enough light. I think you may be onto something though, new seedlings that I've been keeping partially shaded are still a little stressed it seems.. And the light was down a few inches since last time.
I'm gonna pull it up a little more and see how they respond.
I can't wait to get my future room cleared out, it was a storage room and its still packed, I need it sooo bad so I can actually divide it and have a seperate seedling/veg area. It's killin' me to be stuck in this closet. New room is about 12 x 12.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#405984 - 04/23/10 05:55 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bounced back in a few hours, I think these ladies are pretty strong.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#406041 - 04/23/10 10:30 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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have you tried a little bit of some fish emulsion? that pepped up one of my plants..
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: Epoo]
#408751 - 04/29/10 11:03 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Update on first page.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#408753 - 04/29/10 11:04 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think the growth is lackluster because they look hungry to me how strong are you feeding them?
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#408759 - 04/29/10 11:10 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Feeding lightly, they were getting 200ppm until last night I stepped it up to 325..
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#408761 - 04/29/10 11:15 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Oh that's definitely the problem. Those bigger ones are definitely old enough to be getting 500ppm at least. are the big ones still in solo cups also? If so then the lack of root space will be slowing them down significantly.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#408767 - 04/29/10 11:23 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah, the bigger ones are in like 14oz cups, same as the seedlings. I checked root growth on the big mandala plant and they are thick and very healthy but just barely touching the bottom of the cup. I'm still gonna transplant soon, I just realized I have to get quite a bit of water ready(evaporate the chlorine). So as as soon as its ready I will transplant to buckets.
You're completely right on the feeding, I thought they were just getting cramped because of those lower leaves yellowing and drooping, but paired with the yellowish apical tip(which I wasn't really noticing), they must be hungry.
How long of a period do you recommend I increase the doasge over?
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#408768 - 04/29/10 11:24 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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in hempy's you can step it up over just like 2 feedings. 325 was your last one, like 400-425 next one, then 500 after that just keep an eye on them to see if they get pissed, but you should be fine
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#408772 - 04/29/10 11:34 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Awesome, thats exactly what I was lookin' for. Thanks again, Harry.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#410407 - 05/02/10 01:33 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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So, turns out I was underfeeding, by quite a bit. The jump from 200 to 325 showed a considerable change in growth, I increased again today to 435. I will post some pictures up tomorrow to see how they do with this strength.
Just to let you know how underfed they were, I fed the two small seedlings, about 2 weeks old, the same 325ppm feeding and they blew up over night with no kind of burn. I'm solidly in love with this Floranova now, I wouldn't even consider anything else.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#410416 - 05/02/10 01:52 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Can't wait to see those pictures man!
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#410842 - 05/03/10 01:45 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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DieselB said: So, turns out I was underfeeding, by quite a bit. The jump from 200 to 325 showed a considerable change in growth, I increased again today to 435. I will post some pictures up tomorrow to see how they do with this strength.
Just to let you know how underfed they were, I fed the two small seedlings, about 2 weeks old, the same 325ppm feeding and they blew up over night with no kind of burn. I'm solidly in love with this Floranova now, I wouldn't even consider anything else.
hey man if you dont mind can you give me a run down of your feed schedule.. or what you would recommend after you have tweaked it?
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: Epoo]
#410949 - 05/03/10 10:40 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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FloraNova is the shit. I just picked up some Kool Bloom yesterday Flowering is going to be fun.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: Dephect]
#411010 - 05/03/10 12:52 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Updated.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: Epoo]
#411013 - 05/03/10 12:55 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'll get back with you on a schedule once I get a good one nailed down, remind me.
So far its: "Feed nothing for weeks then get advice from Harry."
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#412443 - 05/05/10 11:30 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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The two smaller seedlings are on 435ppm as of yesterday and doing great, and the others are up to 575ppm as of this morning. Bagseeds are at 765ppm, as if anyone cares about those, they are just gonna get turned into hash anyway.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#412459 - 05/05/10 11:48 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah man they're looking much better now. Look at how much darker green they are now
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#412611 - 05/05/10 05:11 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Transplantation succesful.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#412872 - 05/06/10 01:52 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Badass Diesel!
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: Epoo]
#413271 - 05/06/10 08:58 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah man, I'm hoping they are gonna really blow up now. Before I was judging root mass by one of my biggest, well it turns out all the other had way more roots and were already bound. Where the one ww x bb I was looking at had roots just barely reaching the bottom.
And ppm is now at 605
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#414462 - 05/09/10 10:39 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Three week old seedlings got 600ppm yesterday evening and had quite a growth spurt because of it. Making me think I need to have these other plants up around 700-850 because they are two weeks older, and still not growing very fast.. I suppose being transplanted into the five gallon buckets they are gonna need a week or so to hit the res before they resume growth.
My target was to be able to flower around the first of this month, but the size just isn't there and I'm not gonna sacrafice yield due to my lack of patience. So, we'll see how they look on the first of June, and that will most likely be the switch date, or hopefully that first week anyway.
Anyone got a rough estimate on a cup size root ball reaching the bottom of this bucket? I buried the plants so that the bottom of the root mass was about in the middle of the bucket, maybe a cunt hair lower.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#414485 - 05/09/10 11:14 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Oh boy, get ready for those girls to explode in growth now. When I go from the cups to the 5-gallon hempys my shit literally triples in size in the first week or two
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#414512 - 05/09/10 12:12 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm REALLY hoping thats what happens for these, man, they've been looking like they aren't growing at all since I moved them, the seedlings are about to catch them in height in a couple more days.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#414614 - 05/09/10 02:28 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Proud of my 3 week old seedlings here, WWxBB and ICE numbers 3. Now feeding at 600ppm and loving it.
And together(WWxBB left, ICE right)
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#419117 - 05/16/10 09:23 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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are your plants? soaking up all the nutes really fast? I fed my shit friday night and did a llittle training today and there dry as hell at the bottoms of the cups.. I got decent humidity in the room about 60 percent.. I just cant figure out if its plants soaking the shit up or there just drying out?
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: Epoo]
#419224 - 05/17/10 11:12 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Completely normal, once the roots start filling in you may end up watering as much as every day / every other day before you transplant into something larger, and once you do that you will fall back to being able to water every couple days again, once they hit the bottom.
How high up do you have your drainage hole?
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#419497 - 05/17/10 10:37 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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id say 1.5 to 2 inches from the bottom maybe? Im gonna update pics tomorrow.. I fed them friday and two days later they exploded with growth got a new chute popping out and almost got full leaves.. I bought some of this shit and threw it on the roots.. I think it works well and you cant beat the price.. I got it for about 15 bucks. compared to voodoo juice and the subculture shit. http://www.aurorainnovations.org/oregonism_xl.html
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: Epoo]
#420283 - 05/19/10 10:23 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Waited two weeks for my picture update just to test out what Harry said about them exploding after the transplant.
Well.. I will let you guys be the judge, gonna shoot a few pics in a little while before I start more training. Currently they have all been FIM'd and tied over once.
I have to do some serious work on the bagseed tub too, its gone crazy with growth, I've been pinching and snipping left and right and it continues to grow at a rapid pace. Will get a couple shots of it too.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#420304 - 05/19/10 10:58 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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There it is, enjoy. Those top three plants will be cloned right before flowering and the clones will be put under flouros to start as mom's. Once these get flowered I will make final decisions on whether to keep mom's or move on to bigger and better strains.
Oh yeah, they are feeding at 1070ppm now, which is 8ml FN grow and 4ml Dark Energy. Still seems like they want/could take more too.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#420516 - 05/19/10 02:51 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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damn dude that shit did blow the fuck up it two weeks.. Im still unsure when to increase the ppm on mine.. seems like your having the same problem as me.. two many seeds not enough room.. I love your grow man.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: Epoo]
#420542 - 05/19/10 03:47 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wow! I can see why the white widow x big bud is your favorite.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: 13eetleJuice]
#420783 - 05/19/10 11:27 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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That Venus Flytrap is the most interesting IMO. Had to throw you a nom for that one I'm sure it will be special.
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Thanks! I'm sure it will be something special. I can't wait to start flowering, anticipation is killing me, hell or high water they are going to 12/12 on the first. Going to get flowering nutes on friday. I'm gonna try and get the little ones into buckets tonight after I use the buckets to pasteurize some coir really quick..
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#421812 - 05/21/10 06:09 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Got Ice and WWxBB number three transplanted into their new homes yesterday evening. I'm hoping they do similar to how the others did when I transplanted them, because there's still ten days for them to grow out before the bulb and timer switch. Really starting to get an even, full canopy in there, buckets are two rows of four. Now I'm gonna make you wait till the first for more pictures.
Now feeding them all at 1200ppm and they are soakin' it up, I don't plan on going any higher than this(maybe a cunt hair more in bloom). Decided on using Humboldt's 'Ginormous' for flowering, got the FloraNova Bloom, also picked up some Snow Storm Ultra. Gonna keep them on the Dark Energy through flowering too.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#421889 - 05/22/10 12:00 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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ill \be waiting
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: Epoo]
#423167 - 05/24/10 02:09 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Looking really good man.....keep it up!
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: Frizzleman]
#425279 - 05/28/10 05:17 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Are you guys ready for the last update before flowering?
Pics will be up in a minute.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#425362 - 05/28/10 10:19 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm still liking the WWxBB the best. They look happy!
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: 13eetleJuice]
#425448 - 05/29/10 02:04 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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this is awesome. kinda give me an idea of the size I want to get mine before flowering and how big yours will get from the buds
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: Epoo]
#425984 - 05/30/10 04:24 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just put my HPS light in the reflector and changed the timer, buds here we come.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#426708 - 05/31/10 10:07 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Watered today, 4ml Grow, 4ml Bloom, 4ml Dark Energy, 1ml Snow Storm Ultra. I have to go get molasses tomorrow.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#428901 - 06/04/10 07:47 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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So my HPS bulb went haywire, lit up like the 4th of July and burnt like 5-6 growth tips on my Ice plants and then stopped working. Got a new one on the way, just running my halide on 12/12 for now.
Considering doing a flush this weekend, as they haven't had one yet.. I figure it's probably better to go ahead and clean 'em out before we get too far into flowering because problems then may cost yield and that's not cool.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#428913 - 06/04/10 09:40 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sorry to hear about the bulb. Did it mess with the light cycle at all or was the halide already going too? Also what kind of ballast and what brand of bulb if you don't mind me asking?
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The bulb was just a HTG brand POS. Yeah, messsed the light cycle up for about +/- 48 hours, just not sure of the extent. It would stay on for a while, then shut off for 5 minutes and restart by itself.. Which is crazy being that the ballast was staying on the whole time, so it wasn't seeing an ignintion pulse to start. Then it went out for good and I manually restarted with no problem.. Never seen a bulb act so loopy. Thank goodness its the bulb and not the ballast. (knock on wood)
The ballast itself is also from HTG, it's their Digital Greenhouse line. So far, so good, its been flawless. Run's quiet as can be and has never gotten more than "warm", I expected it to put out more heat, but it stays cool as a fan. Next round is gonna bring name brand equiptment and this setup will go on the shelf for "backup".
I'm really hoping the stress isn't gonna cause me any problems..
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#429169 - 06/05/10 05:03 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just picked up dry Kool Bloom and Bushmaster a while ago. These Ice plants are just really pushing vertical limits of my lighting system and I'm only a week into flower. I'll probably let them put on another couple inches before I apply that.
One must remember when growing cannabis, growth does not follow a certain rate, actually it's exponential as the plant grows.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#430151 - 06/08/10 11:22 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh man you should add some new pics, I like your grow and I'm thinking about trying hempy buckets for my next grow
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: Lucid]
#430577 - 06/09/10 09:43 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah, I'm gonna do an update soon, I was trying to wait till two weeks into flower so you could actually tell they were in bloom. Sunday will be the two week mark, couple more days.
Just put the Bushmaster in two days ago, gonna add one more application tomorrow and then flush on Friday and Saturday. This will be the first flush, next one will be before harvest. Honestly, I probably wouldn't have flushed except at the end of the cycle, but with the Bushmaster I figured it was a good idea.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#431431 - 06/11/10 07:05 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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WW x BB number one hulked out and grew a bunch of balls....
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
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Not the fault of your methods. You thinking it was genetic or related to the dark cycle problem?
Also, were you able to sex the other ones yet?
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God damn diesel that fuckin blows man.. did you buy feminized seeds?
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DieselB said: WW x BB number one hulked out and grew a bunch of balls....
Not the fault of your methods. You thinking it was genetic or related to the dark cycle problem?
Also, were you able to sex the other ones yet?
Yeah, very likely related to the bulb, it was one that got partially burnt from it. It's from Female Seeds Co. which apparently uses the best process for feminizing. Who knows.
The rest have been showing female preflowers for at least the past 5 weeks.
It was an all feminized grow, being that I was working with a small space and wanted things done quickly I decided to try it out, hopefully the others are a little more stable.
One plant in the bagseed tub showed a male sack as well, I pulled that whole thing outa there too. I'm considering starting some of these Original HazexSkunk #1 as a 12/12 from seed thing for backup. Or maybe the Neville's x Jack Herer from Female Seed Co..
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#432613 - 06/14/10 10:28 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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There's some bud pictures for you, I was lazy and didn't want to clear out the whole grow area for seprate pics, I'll make sure to get individual pictures for the next update.
They are now feeding on 8ml FN BLoom, 8ml Kool BLoom, and 3ml Snow Storm Ultra. Last recorded strength was 1280ppm.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#432616 - 06/14/10 10:30 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Also, upon further inspection, there is no female flowers on the WWxBB plant, so I have a male, could be potential breeding.. We'll see how these clones pull through and maybe I'll put one outside and pollinate it.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#432921 - 06/14/10 11:40 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I put My Train wreck and vanilla kush into flowering last night.. What type of transition did you use as far as your lighting before you went into the 12/12 cycle?
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: Epoo]
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I don't believe they need a transition period, I went straight from 18/6 to 12/12.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#433341 - 06/15/10 07:47 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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alright then cool lol.. I threw all my bloom nutes in started cutting light back.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: Epoo]
#433452 - 06/15/10 11:19 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sweet, the switch to flowering is the most exciting for me. It's so much cooler to watch them progress through the flowering cycle rather than the veg cycle. That, and when they start producing trichomes I get giddy like a school girl on Christmas morning.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#433612 - 06/16/10 11:48 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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So on the 9th I took six clones, two from the best of each of the three main strains. Started to yellow yesterday, tugged on 'em this morning, and they are rooted. I expect roots to pop out of the pellet either tomorrow or the next day. Barely over a week from a flowering plant is pretty fucking fantastic if you ask me. The only thing I can attribute it to, is probably the solution I used.. Dyna-Gro K-L-N, I didn't expect it to do so well, it was the cheapest thing I could find..
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#433628 - 06/16/10 12:33 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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yeah man thats great news! the clones I took died because the rez fucking leaked. I took some new ones and they rooted really nicely. Ill post pics in my thread in a few days
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: Frizzleman]
#434299 - 06/17/10 03:12 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just put up some nice bud shots from day 18 of flowering. These beauties are comin' along nicely.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
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Looking pretty damn sweet man, keep it up!
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: Frizzleman]
#436598 - 06/23/10 02:00 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Day 24 picture update.
Also, if things go according to plan, I will be recieving a second 600w light setup within the next week. 1200 watts, here I come. Hoping that just having it in the last 4 weeks of flower will make a good improvement, because some of my girls are NOT recieving adequate light coverage, I've been rotating the best I can, but I really need the extra light..
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#437452 - 06/25/10 08:40 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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looking gorgeous man! Great job.....I am going to try and do hempy....Could you explain it a bit to me? Is it messy?
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: Frizzleman]
#438145 - 06/26/10 05:25 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's very simple to setup, the only thing I can see being a little messy is the perlite, because when you spill it, it goes everywhere.
Start out with a solo/dixie cup, and just make a mini hempy out of it. Put a small hole in the side about 3/4"-1" above the bottom. The original "Hempy" medium would be 3 parts perlite to one part verm, I think. I chose to do it the easy way and just use straight perlite.. Seems to work just fine. I check the weight of the cup to know when they need water, you want it to weight pretty close to nothing before you re-water. Move on to 2-5 gallon buckets after that, put your overflow hole about 1-1.5" from the bottom and thats about it. Most people make sure they get a little bit of runoff out of the hole during every watering as to keep any salts from building up, and this is a very good idea. Though I must mention I've been through my whole grow without a drop of runoff, I just give them plain water every few weeks to dilute the resovoir at the bottom and they seem to do just fine. Probably not the best thing to do, but it works for me for now.
Some people like to only feed every other watering, I feed every time, couple different opinions on this, I would probably go ahead and feed everytime atleast until the plants show signs of not liking it.
If there's anything else in particular you want to know about let me know.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#438384 - 06/27/10 10:31 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Here's my attempt at macro, even though my cam doesn't have it..
And here's one of the buds from WWxBB #2, not really after detail here, just thought they turned out cool looking with the hps light and sun setting.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#438617 - 06/27/10 08:54 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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thanks a lot for the info man.....I just started some clones in some hempy cups so we will see how it goes.... by the way if you have a microscope you can take a picture through the lens....I did it with my last grow
really loving your grow
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: Frizzleman]
#438623 - 06/27/10 09:13 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah, I have a 30x jeweler's loupe I was using, little hard to get the focus right, came out alright though.
Good luck with the hempy cups, I'm sure you'll be pleased with the results, they seem to be quite efficent.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#438627 - 06/27/10 09:20 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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At 100x the world looks so different... I highly recommend 100x
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: juke adro]
#440738 - 07/01/10 07:45 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Update comin' in the morning time.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#441043 - 07/02/10 01:10 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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There's a few updated pics for you guys.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#441076 - 07/02/10 04:15 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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cool stuff man
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: fungi]
#441149 - 07/02/10 06:33 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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So I bumped up feedings to 1340 ppm, was great except for the plants not directly uder the light that burnt..
EDIT Can we not fix the quick reply to not reply to the last poster? I was on the first page when I did it, damn..
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#441353 - 07/03/10 07:23 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Looks great, beautiful frosting on the way too.. They must be stinking up the area nicely now
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: juke adro]
#441389 - 07/03/10 09:42 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks, man! Believe it or not the smell is kept completely under control by my carbon filter, I have to literally stick my face in the caopy to get a whiff. One of my WWxBB plants is now smelling like juicy fruit gum, I am gonna try and save this if I can get a long flowering clone to root.. Gotta put my bubble cloner together today.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#441411 - 07/03/10 10:10 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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You should have made clones of all of them anyhow, pass one of each onto a mate then when you find a good one you just take his tops round and round
Juicy fruit scent mmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: juke adro]
#441499 - 07/03/10 11:53 AM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah, I know, I had taken some clones, but only from the vigorous looking ones in veg, and being that this particular plant was younger by a couple weeks, it stayed pretty small so I didn't even think to get any from it, same with the other ICE(3) thats super frosty, it got planted with that other one and was small. Plus I went out of state for a couple days and kinda killed the other clones I took, except for like 3.. So I got some new ones going now, and soon as I finish this cloner I'm gonna take some undergrowth shoots from WWxBB and ICE numbers 3. I wish you could smell that WWxBB plant, its so sweet and fruity.
I'm hoping using the bubble cloner will aid in getting them rooted quicker, as opposed to my normal method of jiffy pellets. I've never tried to clone this far into flowering, but I guess we'll see how it goes.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#441877 - 07/04/10 04:45 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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They are getting so frosty and tasty looking, I just clipped a tester even though theres a mininmum of three weeks left.. Really curious to see what they're like now, before full potency. It's in the oven on warm for a couple hours.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#443035 - 07/07/10 12:59 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Flowering Update number 5, 38 days into flower.
Venus Flytrap number 2:
White Widow x Big Bud number 2: Geting some seriously dense buds on this one, you can see in a couple pictures the angle the branches are growing at because of the weight already.
ICE number 2:
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#443055 - 07/07/10 02:21 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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just beautiful man beautiful great job
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: Kilroy]
#443068 - 07/07/10 02:41 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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woah.
i wanna make one of them my desktop background!
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: weezy420]
#443479 - 07/08/10 01:14 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks guys.
Just smoked like a .1 of the Fly Trap and at six weeks it's very potent..
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#443627 - 07/08/10 06:40 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Here's the 'tester' buds I clipped earlier.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: weezy420]
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Quote:
Kilroy said: just beautiful man beautiful great job
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weezy420 said: woah.
i wanna make one of them my desktop background!
I even thought that exact thought.
Funny, you, Lucid and I are all flowering on the exact same day... Nice job dude those are going to be some huge dense ass buds when they are finished. Everything looks right on schedule, when do you plan to flush if I may ask? I also took the same amount of testers today, some shaded branches that were sucking energy and I am so surprised at how potent it is at this stage.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: Inverted]
#444132 - 07/09/10 12:44 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thats cool that we've got the same schedule going. I wasn't 100% on the flush date, but I've been thinking around the 17th. I'm trying to keep a close eye on trichomes to get a better estimation of when they are gonna finish. I'm guessing they aren't all gonna hit on the 25th which is the 8 week mark. Looks like atleast three will be damn close by then though.
Yeah, I had tried a small but frosty bud about a week and a couple days ago and I didn't notice too much potency, but I can say that they are definitely building potency in the sixth week.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#445991 - 07/13/10 04:48 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Flowering Update number 6, 44 days into flower. Enjoy
Ice 1:
Ice 2:
Ice 3:
VFT 1:
VFT 2:
White Widow x Big Bud 2: leaning hard from heavy ass colas.
White Widow x Big Bud 3: This is the one that smells like juicy fruit gum.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#449578 - 07/21/10 07:14 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Almost harvest time, eh? When did you end up starting the flush?
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: God]
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Yup, I figure another week or so, the Ice plants are rated at 8-10 weeks, and they still have clear trichomes and very few red pistils so it looks like they may go a while. The FlyTrap and WWxBB should be finishing up soon though.
I had ignored them for a few days and went in on the 16th to find them with a ton of yellow leaves and looking droopy, so I flushed them out then. It was only a 3 gallon flush and that brought runoff down to around 100-125ppm, so I figure another 3 gallon flush for each in a day or two for the two strains that are gonna finish soon. Then maybe in about 3-5 days I'll do the Ice plants too.
When I did that flush initial runoff was around 500-600ppm and PH was in check at around 6.0, so I don't know what caused them to get so unhappy. They are looking better now, most of them are pretty yellow at this point, but they are perky too.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#451529 - 07/26/10 12:51 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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So they got flushed days ago and now they are not wanting to finish so they are like completely yellow. Think I may have screwed up a little.. I might give them a dose of just Floranova a little later on so they have some kind of nourishment to finish, because atleast three of them need 1-2 weeks by the looks of them.. Baah.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#451799 - 07/27/10 02:37 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bummer. Yeah, 1-2 weeks seems like enough time to feed once more and still flush again.
As far as trichomes go, around when do you generally start the flush? Can you wait until a few start turning amber before beginning flushing, or is that too late?
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: God]
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Not sure, I think its probably somewhat strain dependant, because from what I've seen some plants will go all amber faster than others. Usually you wanna schedule your flush around when your strain should finish, could be done by the trichomes too I suppose.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#453538 - 07/31/10 01:48 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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***** Update 7 I think? Flowering day number 62.*************
One of the Fly Trap's got chopped down this past sunday, which was the 8 week mark on the nose. I also harvested WWxBB II a day or two previous to that and it was highly unimpressive and thats why there are no pics, I just decided I'd smoke on that one for now to keep me going until I can get a proper dry and atleast short cure. Theres that and my Ice plants still have a fuck ton of white pistils and clear trichome's.. Even though its nearly leafless and quite yellow, trying to keep it alive, it got a small dose of just FNB yesterday, I wanna let it finish out right but I don't wanna keep giving it food... Anyway, here's the Flytrap 'fore it got knocked down.
And heres a couple shots of whats left of the girls in the garden. They were taken through my passive intake on the end of the room.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#453565 - 07/31/10 02:31 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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You like CoughLock I can tell
Beautiful man just beautiful, Only thing I don't like about it is that I do not have your pleasure of the aromas which must be filling your air to almost saturation. Someone invent SmellOvision
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: juke adro]
#453668 - 07/31/10 04:27 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, man, I like to have them at peak potency thats for sure. I have some pretty serious back problems and it helps me with the pain. Actually allows me to be useful around the house.
Thank you very much for the compliments! And yes they are getting quite aromatic, even with the scrubber running 24hrs the pleasant aroma is not slap you in the face powerful, but light and even a little fruity, definitely not something I'm complaining about. I love it.
SmelloVision makes me think of Man V. Food I saw the other day, lol
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#453677 - 07/31/10 04:33 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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We don't have that show here, any good?
Fucken back pain... I have lower and upper middle back pain and it gives me bad chest pain and shoots down my legs on occasion it sucks ass man
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: juke adro]
#453735 - 07/31/10 08:31 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, show is about a guy who goes all over the US to find the best restraunts in the country and on every episode they have a "challenge" from whichever given place, then he tries eating 3lbs of pancakes, or 9lbs of seafood, 5lb steak's etc..
Back pain is some of the worst pain you can deal with, I know exactly what you're talking about with the pain down the leg, the sciatic nerve that causes that, what a bitch too.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#453751 - 07/31/10 09:05 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm going to go physiotherapy on monday and see if they can fix me up... I don't like taking meds for pain at all so if weed can't fix it and physio cant I'm screwed
Back to your weed man its too nice to go all off topic
*Touches weed and smells finger
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: juke adro]
#453975 - 08/01/10 02:38 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Can't wait to get some harvest pics of the Ice, they are quite a bit more frosty compared to that Flytrap. It feels like they are never going to finish, this is 9 weeks today.. Every one I have left, 3 ice, 1 Flytrap and 1 WWxBB all are gonna go to atleast week ten. So next sunday will be the ten week mark, they better get ready cause its gonna be choppin' time.
I better pick some shorter finishing strains.. Really I goofed on this grow because I treated them all like 8 week strains as far as a flush and feeding schedule and none of them are 8 weeks strains looking back over the specs on them.. Oh well, I'm gonna pull them trough far as I can without food and hope they finish out well. They are already quite lovely and potent too so I can't end up too bad off. You should see them, they look crazy the way the calyx's are stacking one atop the next, buds have completely lost that rounded shape.
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#454113 - 08/01/10 09:28 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sweet man looking forward to them
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: juke adro]
#454237 - 08/02/10 11:13 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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ok man so you just want my address and youll send me half right?
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: Frizzleman]
#457181 - 08/09/10 02:52 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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i finally chopped my vanilla kush friday.. i was a couple days early. I was pleased with the turn out though.. I wish i could get my damn camera to work with my computer oh ya.. your grow is fuckin amazing man.. been following you all the way thru!
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: Epoo]
#457184 - 08/09/10 03:54 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Epoo borrow one I wanna see it, was it from barneys?
sorry diesel for jacking thread but just interested
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: juke adro]
#462119 - 08/17/10 11:47 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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So in the end I got about 1.5 oz a plant. Pretty unstoked about that, I mean its fire as hell and smokes hard, but I should have had double that. There were some contributing factors. I over veg'd and ended up having to use bushmaster, and I never flushed afterwards.. After that I basically just expected they were all gonna finish out around 8 weeks and I flushed accordingly, well, turns out they wanted to go 10+ weeks, so they got starved the last coule weeks.
Alreadys in peat pods now:
3x Venus Fly Trap
2x Nirvana Ice
3x White Widow x Big Bud
Figured i might as well use them up before I move on.
And then there's these:
4x Neville's Haze Hybrid (Female Seed Co.) Which I can't tell genetics on, I've read that it was Nev Haze x Jack Herer, then I've also read that its Nev Haze x Grapefruit..
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#464652 - 08/21/10 03:46 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sick man
Yeah well we learn by our mistakes ey?
I'm really looking forward to seeing WWxBB and Nevs keep me filled in
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: DieselB]
#490598 - 10/22/10 09:43 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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SICKNESS!
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Re: 600w Closet Grow, 4 strains + bagseed. [Re: positive1]
#490686 - 10/23/10 08:58 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks for the kind words, I'm hoping to be able to dominate this grow with my current one.
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