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I'm terrible at rolling I always cheat and use a pen or something, and then pack it in after I have a shell.
I feel like I use a lot more weed in a blunt or joint than I do from a bong. But then again, I don't usually just pack one bowl in my bong, so I'm not sure.
We need to do some experiments guys. In the name of science.
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I didn't read any of the posts in this thread, but I know for a fact that Bongs are among the most inefficient smoking method. The simple fact that you can take more matter in a single hit gets you "higher" but you are also consuming much more out of your stash to achieve that high.
I get MUCH higher smoking a small bowl, than if I used that same amount of weed and smoked it through the bong.
There is a simple way to test this, and it's basically how I smoke all day every day. I have a hybrid hookah/bong (pics later if I find them quick), and a One-Hitter. I wrapped rubber bands around the one hitter so that it effectively seals in the bong female tube as if it were a slide.
I will use the same weed, and a clean sober palate for each test. Since I can only fit one hit in my onie, it makes for a good control. If I pack it, and smoke it through the bong, sure I can take it easier because it's water-cooled, but I just don't get a rocking high unless I pack a few. If I pack that same weed in the one hitter the next morning, and smoke it as is (not through the bong) I feel as if I get much higher and don't need as many onies. I usually get by with just one or two, whereas if I put the onie in the binger I would have to smoke at least 2, usually 3.
I've put this to the test literally hundreds of times because I've always wondered why bongs are the absolute shit. Yes they allow you to get higher, simply because you can take larger cooler rips, but you are also burning up at least 2-3x as much weed per hit, which will obviously make you feel like it's the bong getting you higher, but everything needs to be put into perspective to accurately rate a certain smoking method.
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Quote: Inverted said: I didn't read any of the posts in this thread, but I know for a fact that Bongs are among the most inefficient smoking method. The simple fact that you can take more matter in a single hit gets you "higher" but you are also consuming much more out of your stash to achieve that high.
This is my experience as well.
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IBongs, heres mine: If you have dank weed you'l be surprised how high you can get with a good bong and little amount. as for the thc filtered into water its bs thc is not soluble in water.
Don't sweat it Spency. This test was done before 1976 when most testing methods were pretty much shit anyway. In fact in the article it says that one way to reduce the tar in your lungs is to smoke high potency pot. Well what were they testing then?
Your bong will do ya up just fine.
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Yeah, I've heard that same argument before, with the joints-get-you-higher claim, that it contains the most THC....
I see joints as being inefficient because of that burning tip that's always burning up your weed, even when you're not hitting it (and pieces falling out of the joint).
Bongs do that too, but since you can put as little or as much as you want, you can make 1-hit bowls and not waste weed to the "runaway effect" of the lit cherry (that's what I call it).
And with Bongs, your hits are contained in a small space, instead of the constant, uncontained tip-burning of joints.
As for the "Bong hits have more tar than joints", I'm calling BS on that one. I need some explanation on that: how could water be worst at filtering than thin paper? Makes no sense.
But one advantage of water bongs is that it dissolves nasty gases (mostly from the lighter) in the water, something joints cannot do. This makes it slighly more healthier to smoke, and if you have a Solar Lighter (aka, a huge magnifying glass), then its practically the cleanest hit since Digital Vapo's....
At least, that's my understand.... ~ TrueHerbCrystal ~
Quote: TrueHerbCrystal said: Yeah, I've heard that same argument before, with the joints-get-you-higher claim, that it contains the most THC....
1 - I see joints as being inefficient because of that burning tip that's always burning up your weed, even when you're not hitting it (and pieces falling out of the joint).
2 - Bongs do that too, but since you can put as little or as much as you want, you can make 1-hit bowls and not waste weed to the "runaway effect" of the lit cherry (that's what I call it).
3 - And with Bongs, your hits are contained in a small space, instead of the constant, uncontained tip-burning of joints.
4 - As for the "Bong hits have more tar than joints", I'm calling BS on that one. I need some explanation on that: how could water be worst at filtering than thin paper? Makes no sense.
5 - But one advantage of water bongs is that it dissolves nasty gases (mostly from the lighter) in the water, something joints cannot do. This makes it slighly more healthier to smoke, and if you have a Solar Lighter (aka, a huge magnifying glass), then its practically the cleanest hit since Digital Vapo's....
At least, that's my understand.... ~ TrueHerbCrystal ~
1.) If you think about it not very much weed gets burnt when you're not smoking a joint, and it's not like if you take a hit from a fully packed bong that doesn't stay cherried too. And with the joint you can put it out when you're done smoking it and resume later if the hits get too long in between hits. AND as you smoke it down the bud gets more and more resinous.
2.) If you pack individual hits into a bong, yes, you're being more efficient but I bet you that you'll wind up not getting as high because you don't smoke as much this way usually. Also you have to re-pack the bowl over and over the joint chills out and waits for you to take another toke.
3.) Same as 1
4.) I agree
5.) You only light a joint once (ideally)
just playin devil's advocate for fun
Also something that always comes into my mind when I'm vaping but surely also applies to bongs: What is the rate at which your lungs can extract THC from a hit? As in, at what point does a huge hit turn into a huge waste of unabsorbed THC?
It may be that if you're taking huge rips off your bong/vape and 40% of the THC may be getting exhaled before you even abosorb it in your lungs.
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Screw what that research says man, you love your bong, and you smoke it everyday because it gets you high!
Just imagine if you never read this artical, you would probably be smoking a cone right now and loving it.
I started out smoking J's, then went onto the pipe's before graduating the smoking the bill' and I love my bong now, its one of my closest friends in the world.
Treat your bong well, keep him/her clean and always remember to love it.
Besides, inhaling *any* smoke of any kind is "not right" (health wise), so why not do the ultra-wrong way? I love my blue bong, even if the mouth hole is shaped like an egg.
But its so damn beautiful...
PS to T-Rex:
I love ya sig. quote: "Its Not Peer Pressure. Its Just Your Turn." That made me laugh. I'm gunna have to use that sometime....
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I always cheat and use a pen or something, and then pack it in after I have a shell.
Bongs, heres mine:
just playin devil's advocate for fun 
That made me laugh. I'm gunna have to use that sometime....
