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 spacemonkey69
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 Bong V.s. Bowl 
#236810 - 06/06/09 12:37 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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What's healthier to smoke out of Bong (including bubblers) or bowls?
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bobby
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well i use a bowl to put my smoke in then put the bowl im my bong- i would say smoking outta bong or bubblier is healthier versus no kind of filter. i seem to get more shit faced stoned smoking a couple bowls outta my bong then an entire blunt. All the local head shops have signs saying it cuts half the carcinogens smoking tobacco outta the bong so i hope the same is is true for my good ol herb.
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 Re: Bong V.s. Bowl [Re: bobby]
#236832 - 06/06/09 01:15 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't remember who but someone on her said the exact opposite... 
to tell the truth i have to agree with you my friend 
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“You see this glass bong?” asks Achaan Chaa, the Thai meditation master. “For me this glass is already broken. I enjoy it; I smoke out of it. It holds my water admirably, sometimes even reflecting the sun in beautiful patterns. If I should tap it, it has a lovely ring to it. But when I put this glass bong on the shelf and the wind knocks it over or my elbow brushes it off the table and it falls to the ground and shatters, I say, ‘Of course.’ When I understand that the glass is already broken, every moment with it is precious.”[/quote]
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bobby
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lol, which part?? my closest friends get highest on blunts but that is what he prefer- I'm a bong guy Do u notice how NASTY the water is after ya smoke?? it's filtering something out but it ain't the THC-not water soluble
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spacemonkey69 said:
I don't remember who but someone on her said the exact opposite...
I said that. It turns out that water pipes filter some of the thc so you get more tar per thc, but the study that I read this did not take into account that water pipes filter most of cannabis' noxious gases, which seem to do much more damage to your lungs than tar. Ergo, vise a vi, concordently, water pipes seem to be the most healthy choice.
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I'm confused: don't all bongs have bowls or is there some new innovation in bong-technology that requires no bowl?
Well, if by "bowl" you mean "any other smoking device besides a bong", then its obviously the water-filled bong. And glass is BY FAR the cleanest/healthiest to smoke from, since metal/arclic/wooded pipe bowls usually burn a little every time you hit it with the lighter.
Not only does the water in a bowl filter out some burnt organic matter (and sadly some THC  ), it also dissolves gases released from your lighter and from the smoke itself, which makes the smoke you inhale "healthier".
The water in the bong is not just for cooling the smoke, it has an important function of "cleaning" the weed smoke your about to take a big rip of. That's why its easier to hold in bong smoke than joint or weed smoke.
Hey, does anyone know if inhaling hot smoke from pipes/joints is harmful? I know if the smoke is too hot, like from a bon fire, it can collapse your lungs, but what about cooler, pipe/joint smoke? Is there any long-term effects of holding in med-hot smoke from non-bong devices?
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Pretty much the only thing that can have long term effects if smoked regularly would be blunts, but of course thats just because of the tobacco and extra tar. I prefer a bong to anything nowadays, I smoked a pipe for 3 years because it was my only piece. Then I got a bong, then a diffuser and probably gonna get a diffused pre-cooler/ash catcher to attach onto that 
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MonsignorBerric
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One thing I should add is that the first day I had my bong I had been smoking pretty much only pipes for a while. The high I got was very noticeably different. I felt I didn't get as tired and it was a clearer high
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godspeedyou
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Hey, does anyone know if inhaling hot smoke from pipes/joints is harmful? I know if the smoke is too hot, like from a bon fire, it can collapse your lungs, but what about cooler, pipe/joint smoke? Is there any long-term effects of holding in med-hot smoke from non-bong devices?
I read that smoke that is not filtered through water (obviously through the use of a water pipe) is in fact harmful because smoke that is not humidified destroys the thin cell wall of your lungs. Humidified smoke however allegedly does not destroy that cell wall and is therefore safer to smoke. The only downside is that water filtration slightly increases the amount of tar you inhale per THC content because THC is slightly soluble in water so you have to smoke more to get the same effect (or at least this is what I read in a 1996 NORML study).
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Wow, that's interesting!
So, smoke that's been passed thru water in a bong is healthier not because it filters out tars or burnt organic matter, but because it "humidifies" the smoke.
Its like smoke from water bongs is "wet" and easier on the lungs. While smoke from glass pipes is "dry", thus is more harsh on the lungs.
I never would of thought about that until you told me godspeedyou.
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I'll have to send you a prayer to "Live Long and Prosper".
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i like my bong!  its the ONLY thing i smoke out of when im at home, and everyone that comes over loves it too, fill that bitch with ice and you can fill the entire thing with smoke till its yellow before you clear it out, im not gonna lie it hurts but with the ice its no more then a nice cold blow to the dome!! haha speaking of which, smoke break!
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haha you pray to me, not for me 
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bobby
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i got a few bongs and they all have ice catchers in them, which is nice cause there have been times before in which i broke the stem cause of ice hitting it!
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 Re: Bong V.s. Bowl [Re: bobby]
#237572 - 06/08/09 12:13 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wow, you broke the stem when you were hitting the ice! Damn!
Sounds like you need to stop smoking ICE and start hitting the WEED!
Or maybe you were referring to Frozen Water Cubes, which I could see how it could break the stem, especially when loading the Frozen Water Cubes.
I noticed that when I load the FWC when there's no water, it hits the non-removable glass stem pretty hard. It could break it if I'm not careful about loading them.
But you said "i broke the stem cause of ice hitting it!", do mean as you were hitting it? How is that possible? Is it too much vacuum pressure or something?
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How bout them grammar Nazis. I don't know what that Nazi party has to do with grammar, but it sounds good!
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i would say bong cuz it filters through the water making it less harsh on your lungs.
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Re: Bong V.s. Bowl [Re: stoner 42o]
#689101 - 10/13/13 08:28 PM (11 years, 1 month ago) |
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You realize you're bumping a 4 years old thread right?
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Re: Bong V.s. Bowl [Re: stoner 42o]
#689123 - 10/14/13 04:02 AM (11 years, 1 month ago) |
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i would say bong cuz it filters through the water making it less harsh on your lungs.
Bong's do not filter smoke, they cool it. The shit you see in the water is ash and resin.
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Ok so let me bring you idiots up to speed.
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Re: Bong V.s. Bowl [Re: TomCollins]
#689171 - 10/14/13 01:40 PM (11 years, 1 month ago) |
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so in other words... its filtering the ashes from going into your your lungs
Edited by P-O (10/14/13 03:07 PM)
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Re: Bong V.s. Bowl [Re: P-O]
#689179 - 10/14/13 02:57 PM (11 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'd say bong I guess.
Doesn't burn as bad since the smoke is cooler
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