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 can you cross pollinate different strains of cannabis 
#376965 - 03/02/10 02:19 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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now then... im totally new to all this stuff,ive acquired some speed devil (fem) at a stupid price.as i dont want to get my eyes took out again i was wanting to make some seeds myself,but as they are all female i was wondering if i could use the pollen off a ak47 male to fertilise a female speed devil? is this possible or am i totally off track?? pls help!!!!!
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Re: can you cross pollinate different strains of cannabis [Re: black sheep]
#376967 - 03/02/10 02:23 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes, even the strains you listed are just crosses of other strains. This hobby wouldn't be much fun if you couldn't cross different strains 
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Re: can you cross pollinate different strains of cannabis [Re: Crusty Ass Bastard]
#376971 - 03/02/10 02:30 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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cheers m8 .hats gona save some wonga!!!!
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Re: can you cross pollinate different strains of cannabis [Re: black sheep]
#377239 - 03/02/10 06:36 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah, back before the 70's almost all cannabis was grown outdoors and was pure sativas. It's my understanding that about that time Indica plants were found and brought back to cali, where they bred them with sativa's and thus started the great hybrid cannabis we know and love today. In seed making it's always best to chose the absolute best male and female of your stock. That's how we move forward with new strains that everyone wants.
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Re: can you cross pollinate different strains of cannabis [Re: FurrowedBrow]
#377379 - 03/02/10 08:28 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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so what yoru trying to say by "moving forward" is that there is observable artificial evolution. ahhhh!! blasifimy. marry joseph of isreal. 
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Re: can you cross pollinate different strains of cannabis [Re: the man]
#377493 - 03/02/10 11:01 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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so what yoru trying to say by "moving forward" is that there is observable artificial evolution. ahhhh!! blasifimy. marry joseph of isreal.
Yes, there is: http://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=155&pictureid=107962
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Re: can you cross pollinate different strains of cannabis [Re: Crusty Ass Bastard]
#377547 - 03/03/10 12:34 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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wow now thats frosty!!
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Re: can you cross pollinate different strains of cannabis [Re: FurrowedBrow]
#377643 - 03/03/10 09:09 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah, back before the 70's almost all cannabis was grown outdoors and was pure sativas. It's my understanding that about that time Indica plants were found and brought back to cali, where they bred them with sativa's and thus started the great hybrid cannabis we know and love today. In seed making it's always best to chose the absolute best male and female of your stock. That's how we move forward with new strains that everyone wants.
Well, blueberry and skunk#1 have been around since the early 70s so I'd assume that there were indicas brought back before then as they both have afghani in them. I also assume it takes a while to breed seeds back then as I can only assume it was done outdoors.
Edit.. I reread your post and it says back before the 70s
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Re: can you cross pollinate different strains of cannabis [Re: captain.koons]
#377701 - 03/03/10 10:57 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah you sure can. Selective breeding is the reason the THC levels have risen so much since the 70's.
I posted that link here so you don't have to click it to view it.
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Re: can you cross pollinate different strains of cannabis [Re: Inverted]
#378674 - 03/04/10 11:12 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ok, here we go.
Now there are wild kush's growing out there that are just as potent as any cross going yet. Indica's have been used for smoking (contrary to popular belief) for much longer then sativa's. Indica's are the first hash making strains and hash has been used for over 5000 years now.
Now they say that the weed has gotten more potent but the levels they give are bullshit. In the tests that they give the potency numbers they use samples from the entire plant (something that was very common in the 60's) and compare them to the samples properly given to tests taken today. Yes the weed is more potent but comon hundreds of times more potent get real.
So what has changed then. Our choices have. We don't smoke the brown crap full of seeds and stems now unless forced where as before it was the top choice due to the fact that growing practices have changed and the indoor growing revolution.
Now indica came here with people that moved here from those countries and became comon here because somebody tried some of that stuff brought here and said "I gotta get my hands on some seeds of that stuff no matter what it takes". Was very comon for people from the grow areas of Humboldt and Mendocino to take trips to the middle east just for seeds (The process of cloning marijuana or taking cuttings is still a very new practice that was pretty much unheard of till the late 70's) due to the fact that many people had to start every crop indoors or out with seeds.
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Re: can you cross pollinate different strains of cannabis [Re: black sheep]
#448306 - 07/19/10 08:58 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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It should work perfectly and in some ways will probably make it even more powerful Yay for Mary we love em' all!
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Re: can you cross pollinate different strains of cannabis [Re: HerbLover420]
#448340 - 07/19/10 11:41 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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YES for the past 10 years i have been working on the super strain. it is crossed with over 10 different strains. VERY POTENT STRAINS. The Lab tested a 28% THC LEVEL!
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Re: can you cross pollinate different strains of cannabis [Re: TreeOfLife]
#448496 - 07/19/10 09:19 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Now indica came here with people that moved here from those countries and became comon here because somebody tried some of that stuff brought here and said "I gotta get my hands on some seeds of that stuff no matter what it takes".
LOL... some of that stuff. nice!
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Re: can you cross pollinate different strains of cannabis [Re: Inverted]
#448566 - 07/19/10 11:31 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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What strain is that?
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Re: can you cross pollinate different strains of cannabis [Re: Magash]
#448647 - 07/20/10 05:33 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Some of the hash you can find in India is PHENOMINAL, and it's basically the same strains and same cultivation techniques they have been using forever
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Re: can you cross pollinate different strains of cannabis [Re: TreeOfLife] 1
#448656 - 07/20/10 07:58 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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YES for the past 10 years i have been working on the super strain. it is crossed with over 10 different strains. VERY POTENT STRAINS. The Lab tested a 28% THC LEVEL!
I'll say what everybody else is thinking: Bullshit
What 10 strains?
What lab? (Fuck, humor us with even the country it was in)
Basic information? (Sativa? Indica?)
Specific information?
Pics?
You see, I developed a super duper super strain compromised of 39 different strains and tested at 44% THC so I'm interested to see how yours compares. 
Nevermind, you already exposed yourself:
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Hello i live in cali and recently gotmy recommendation but now am looking at supplying some other patients with good herb. I knowhow to grow ive done little personal grows. i was going to spend 1000 total for a 600w hps cooltube 3x3 grow tent with carbon filter hooked up to the exhaust. is it worth the investment though? i dont really know anyone only a couple people. i was going to grow 6 plants. 2 purple haze 2 g13haze and 2 vanilla kush. ofcourse id start with more so incase of males and such. the tent is 3.4x3.4 will this be good for 6 ? or should i get a 3.11x3.11? i was going to grow year round veg for 2 months yeild 300-500 grams expected per harvest. i could get like 3 harvests right? thats around 900- 1500 grams ayear. alot more than 1000 lol its worth the nvestment right? the thing is im also in college and i feel like the weed couple screw with my grades as it always does when i have weed i usually smoke ugh.
Do you suffer from amnesia by chance? Because I would accept that. You were working on a super strain for 10 years and then got to college and forgot everything you learned since the age of 9. Something like that?
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Re: can you cross pollinate different strains of cannabis [Re: Crusty Ass Bastard]
#448659 - 07/20/10 08:33 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Some people just don't fucking get it man... They think they can lie and act like professional growers but it is so fucking easy to spot the bullshit, I didn't believe a word he said, and then you posted that quote and I nearly lost it. Hahahah
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Re: can you cross pollinate different strains of cannabis [Re: Crusty Ass Bastard]
#448990 - 07/20/10 06:00 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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YES for the past 10 years i have been working on the super strain. it is crossed with over 10 different strains. VERY POTENT STRAINS. The Lab tested a 28% THC LEVEL!
I'll say what everybody else is thinking: Bullshit
What 10 strains?
What lab? (Fuck, humor us with even the country it was in)
Basic information? (Sativa? Indica?)
Specific information?
Pics?
You see, I developed a super duper super strain compromised of 39 different strains and tested at 44% THC so I'm interested to see how yours compares.
I was gonna say something when i read it. ya beat me. We are all dying to know how he did this with only 'a few personal grows' under his belt. Must be that magic ive been hearing about.
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Re: can you cross pollinate different strains of cannabis [Re: FurrowedBrow]
#449071 - 07/20/10 10:35 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Personal super strain breeding grows.
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Re: can you cross pollinate different strains of cannabis [Re: TreeOfLife]
#449622 - 07/21/10 08:58 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hmmmm.....I'd like to try this super strain having made a few strains myself. Strains that people here at this site have grown from seed and from cuttings. Where exactly might I find some of your work?
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Re: can you cross pollinate different strains of cannabis [Re: Magash]
#449628 - 07/21/10 09:19 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Speaking of which, I'd LOVE to get my hands on some of those genetics my soon to be Spaniard friend.
Do you have an estimated availability yet?
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Re: can you cross pollinate different strains of cannabis [Re: 81renaissance]
#449645 - 07/21/10 10:08 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Had to cancel Spain for a bit do to cancer treatments I have coming up. Have a place here in Cali that has the plants for seed all started and the collecting of pollen from long tested pollen producers has started. Just getting hard to get my hands on STS nowadays. 
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Re: can you cross pollinate different strains of cannabis [Re: Magash]
#449729 - 07/22/10 12:22 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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anyone ever find what strain that was in teh photo wodner if it was prety high thc. also what i find neat is that there is barely any pistils browning so still has some more time to frost up!!
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Re: can you cross pollinate different strains of cannabis [Re: the man]
#449802 - 07/22/10 08:32 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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anyone ever find what strain that was in teh photo wodner if it was prety high thc. also what i find neat is that there is barely any pistils browning so still has some more time to frost up!!
It was Northern Lights from Female Seeds.
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Re: can you cross pollinate different strains of cannabis [Re: the man]
#450370 - 07/23/10 09:34 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Lemi just smash this thread right off course but kinda not cause I cant be bothered posting anywhere else and since thread is already off course.......... Hashbean pulled 1lb BHO and turned it into rock hard budder (dry whipped BHO) off 5lbs bud, does this mean that the white widdow used was over 20% THC???? If so I now believe some of the talk on these strains and shit, so if a descriptions says it's a cross of this and that and has 25% THC Bla Bla Bla then it may be true?
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Re: can you cross pollinate different strains of cannabis [Re: juke adro]
#451028 - 07/24/10 09:38 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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It means the contents of the entire crystal. There are tons of different chems in crystals. When they say 20% or 25% or whatever the fuck they mean 25% of the crystals content not weight.
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Re: can you cross pollinate different strains of cannabis [Re: Magash]
#451032 - 07/24/10 09:48 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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You think they take a single trichome (crystal?) for analytic chemistry?
I've read the reports the labs return to customers and it says that the results reflect the %'s of the dry weight (they also account for moisture content in the sample) and some even say it's the % of dry weight for a single calyx. I don't know if this is true but it sure sounds likely.
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Re: can you cross pollinate different strains of cannabis [Re: maryanne3087]
#451064 - 07/25/10 01:00 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well when testing for thc the only part of the plant that contains any is the crystals so it wouldn't make sense to test other parts of the plant when testing for thc.
I'm sure they take a batch of crystals and test them and use a average. The reason for this would be that the crystals have a varying amount of thc in them depending on size. Like I'm sure most of us know the water bag (esp sets that use 8 bags) way of making hash separates the crystals by size with the smaller being more potent. 
In the Bay Area the Harbor Side Health center does testing.
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Re: can you cross pollinate different strains of cannabis [Re: Magash]
#451079 - 07/25/10 02:33 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ok sweet cheers
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Re: can you cross pollinate different strains of cannabis [Re: Magash]
#451114 - 07/25/10 10:23 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well when testing for thc the only part of the plant that contains any is the crystals so it wouldn't make sense to test other parts of the plant when testing for thc.
I'm sure they take a batch of crystals and test them and use a average. The reason for this would be that the crystals have a varying amount of thc in them depending on size. Like I'm sure most of us know the water bag (esp sets that use 8 bags) way of making hash separates the crystals by size with the smaller being more potent. :omgawesom:
In the Bay Area the Harbor Side Health center does testing.
Again I don't do testing but what you're explaining is more of a resin profile than a bud profile. I'd suspect when a strain is tested and reports in the 10-20% thc range that is an overall sample. I'd suspect the 40% + thc ranges is for hash and Oils = 70%+.
It is very likely that multiple methods are used for testing buds as there's no standard for analytic chemistry performed on cannabis as far as I know.
I'm in the middle of something right now but I'll try to find the report later. It was a test done in california for the overall thc and cbd %'s of dry bud. That is %'s of actives for the entire plant sample. The sample accounted for 8% moisture, 18% thc, and less than a per cent cbd, leaving 70% or so for dry plant matter.
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Re: can you cross pollinate different strains of cannabis [Re: maryanne3087]
#451210 - 07/25/10 03:35 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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You know who knows how their doing it. Can't be the overall weight or makeup of the bud cause that would be almost 1/5 of the buds total makeup and if that is the case I gotta talk to that breeder right now. Well that can't happen cause the only part of the entire plant that has thc is the resin glands or crystals or to be exact the trichomes. Now as far as different parts of the plant there just doing trichome counts to see which parts of the plant have the most glands. Same way the clubs look for good bud by doing trichome counts.
Now it can't be the way I was saying either cause there are some major holes is that theory. If the thc of the crystal is 20% on the bud it would be in the hash also since it is made up of those crystals.
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Re: can you cross pollinate different strains of cannabis [Re: Magash]
#451248 - 07/25/10 04:52 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well that can't happen cause the only part of the entire plant that has thc is the resin glands or crystals or to be exact the trichomes.
Trichomes cover a large part of the plant. Some 5mm wide sativa calyxes have 2.5-3mm long trichomes covering the entire calyx packed neatly in rows for maximum coverage.
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Re: can you cross pollinate different strains of cannabis [Re: maryanne3087]
#451257 - 07/25/10 05:26 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well trichomes don't grow in rows those are cystolith hairs which look a lot like trichomes but even then the only part of the trichome that has thc in it is the gland head. Yes there are Sativas that are highly covered and some very densely but there is a reason the Indicas are hash making strains.
Nothing beats a good cross though. Here is a few I've grown out.
  
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Re: can you cross pollinate different strains of cannabis [Re: Magash]
#451271 - 07/25/10 05:50 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well trichomes don't grow in rows those are cystolith hairs which look a lot like trichomes but even then the only part of the trichome that has thc in it is the gland head. Yes there are Sativas that are highly covered and some very densely but there is a reason the Indicas are hash making strains.
Nothing beats a good cross though. Here is a few I've grown out.
I wasn't using the word row in it's literal sense. Just that when trichomes are so densely packed their placement seems orderly.
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Re: can you cross pollinate different strains of cannabis [Re: Magash]
#451409 - 07/26/10 02:18 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Here is a few I've grown out.
Holy shit! Very nice 
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