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 azshroomer
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 Re: Built an aero cloner and I can not get it to stop leaking!  [Re: Jeff Funk]
#309767 - 11/04/09 12:36 PM (15 years, 19 days ago) |
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I didnt use anything in place of weather stripping.
I Still lose a few drops a day but its no big deal.
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Re: Built an aero cloner and I can not get it to stop leaking! [Re: azshroomer]
#309889 - 11/04/09 06:09 PM (15 years, 19 days ago) |
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Contractor size trash bags used as a liner. Pull the excess up over the lid, fits tightm and cut off what you don't need. Makes clean up easy also, just throw the bag away. No weather strip needed.
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DankHeadz
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Re: Built an aero cloner and I can not get it to stop leaking! [Re: azshroomer]
#309892 - 11/04/09 06:14 PM (15 years, 19 days ago) |
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I'm usings stinkbuds system as well. So far everything is working great except the run off in the front is a little off. just had to raise that back up a little and extend the size of the fencing post a little. Its working faster than my first DIY DWC system!!! Hydro is great!
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azshroomer
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Re: Built an aero cloner and I can not get it to stop leaking! [Re: DankHeadz]
#310105 - 11/04/09 11:47 PM (15 years, 19 days ago) |
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Good to hear Dank.
Cept that its aeroponics. 
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Re: Built an aero cloner and I can not get it to stop leaking! [Re: azshroomer]
#311321 - 11/06/09 05:12 PM (15 years, 17 days ago) |
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so I just took more clones and used rooting gel this time
and la de da it rinses rite off in an aero cloner also.
So it seems rooting hormone is useless with aero cloners and I have wasted more money.
But now I am useing 5.9 plain water. Lets see what happens I suppose.
at least it does not leek now.
Edited by Budmanman (11/06/09 05:12 PM)
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 Stoneth
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Re: Built an aero cloner and I can not get it to stop leaking! [Re: Budmanman]
#311379 - 11/06/09 06:20 PM (15 years, 17 days ago) |
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What kind of rooting gel you use?
I myself use Clone-X and it doesn't rinse off by any means.
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Budmanman
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Re: Built an aero cloner and I can not get it to stop leaking! [Re: Stoneth]
#312829 - 11/08/09 10:50 PM (15 years, 15 days ago) |
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Do you even use an aero cloner stoney?
and I used rootech
original cloning gel.
Edited by Budmanman (11/08/09 10:52 PM)
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Budmanman
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Re: Built an aero cloner and I can not get it to stop leaking! [Re: Budmanman]
#312918 - 11/09/09 01:07 AM (15 years, 15 days ago) |
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Ok so for no reason it was leeking again today.
And thank god for who ever suggested an iner lining.
I made one and taped it to the top of the lid with the masking tape!
Hey looks like you do need it after all.
And now it cant leek no matter what! sure takes longer to open the lid but who cares.
Water pools in the iner liner around the rim but since it taped to the lid it still light tight water.
oh and I made the unit light tight.
So now I am leek free.
Still no roots but leek free.
every day the ph goes up ab out .4
so I lower it the same time every day..
Since it tap water it should eventualy stable out. My tap water ppm is 40 last time I checked it a few months ago.
and it comes out at a ph of 7.4 but it always rises if you let it sit.
Any ideas suggestions?
But its only been 3 days.
But according to that guy who is probably exagerating how fast he gets roots, I am sure it takes 5 days minimum to get roots.
Edited by Budmanman (11/09/09 01:09 AM)
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Stoneth
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Re: Built an aero cloner and I can not get it to stop leaking! [Re: Budmanman]
#313248 - 11/09/09 06:20 PM (15 years, 14 days ago) |
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Quote:
Budmanman said:
Do you even use an aero cloner stoney?
and I used rootech
original cloning gel.
Yes I use an areo cloner, made my own.
I've never used the rootech before tho.
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azshroomer
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Re: Built an aero cloner and I can not get it to stop leaking! [Re: Stoneth]
#313288 - 11/09/09 07:46 PM (15 years, 14 days ago) |
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Dont be a dick dude. Im here helping you, so is Stoney.
We got other things we can do with our time.
I got root tips in 3 days. You seem to be ignoring my advice which is causing longer rooting times.
I said NO rooting hormone. If you must then dip them in clonex powder.
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Budmanman
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Re: Built an aero cloner and I can not get it to stop leaking! [Re: azshroomer]
#313351 - 11/09/09 08:54 PM (15 years, 14 days ago) |
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Quote:
azshroomer said:
Dont be a dick dude. Im here helping you, so is Stoney.
We got other things we can do with our time.
I got root tips in 3 days. You seem to be ignoring my advice which is causing longer rooting times.
I said NO rooting hormone. If you must then dip them in clonex powder.
well rooting hormone would be the one and only thing I did not follow other then prevent leeking and blocking out light which has no effect on rooting.
and might I add the hormone rinsed rite off instantly anyway.
I have to re adjust my ph every day back to 5.8 but I am doing so.
so were are the roots what is preventing it hmm?
Edited by Budmanman (11/09/09 09:10 PM)
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Budmanman
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Re: Built an aero cloner and I can not get it to stop leaking! [Re: Budmanman]
#313361 - 11/09/09 09:03 PM (15 years, 14 days ago) |
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here is the cloner.
You can see how I innerlined it to prevent leeks and how it can not be blocking water from the roots.
the water is plain water everything is as it is suppose to be and there is anything but 3 day rooting.
I mean you claim to have huge long roots in three days.
well how come it does not replicate hmm?
when I first built it I mimicked yours identically and had leek problems.
I am sure they will root in 6+ days like clones normaly do your 3 days does not sink up here.
Edited by Budmanman (11/09/09 09:04 PM)
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Budmanman
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Re: Built an aero cloner and I can not get it to stop leaking! [Re: Budmanman]
#313396 - 11/09/09 09:34 PM (15 years, 14 days ago) |
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ok I just went through this thread again and you (azshroomer) have said nothing about useing rooting hormone or not
or any advise on what to do other than plain tap water ph to 5.8-6.0 and that you use nothing but weather stripping.
So what advise am I not following?
Or are you just being ignorant?
and I notice you said you made some changes on your tech
Make Your Own Aeroponic Cloner
http://www.growery.org/3037/Make-your-own-Aeroponic-Cloner
well I do not know what changes you made but your tech is lacking in more ways now then it ever did.
How about some real explenations and some real advise?
Edited by Budmanman (11/09/09 09:36 PM)
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Jeff Funk
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Re: Built an aero cloner and I can not get it to stop leaking! [Re: Budmanman]
#313416 - 11/09/09 10:12 PM (15 years, 14 days ago) |
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I dont think you are gonna get what you are looking for that way.
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Budmanman
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Re: Built an aero cloner and I can not get it to stop leaking! [Re: Jeff Funk]
#313470 - 11/10/09 12:32 AM (15 years, 14 days ago) |
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People exagerate their root times on here all the time.
I have witnessed it many times and should of know aero cloneing is nothing special other than the clones coloe look much better durring the cloning prosses. Root speed seems to be the same.
When I was takeing clones in cubes for the first time in a few years I psoted it had been 8 days and no roots visible yet and I said on the teks they said it took 5 days max and then someone replied people exagerate their root times regularly and that its normaly 7 days minimum and sometimes over 2 weeks.
In my growing experience quite often it does take over 2 weeks. Aero cloning seems to be about a 6ish days to get little root nubs and probably 9 days to get a good root system from what I am seeing here.
The last clones I took which had nutritent solution in them all started rooting about 10ish days. The root nubs didnt get very long fast at all. They never got any cercumstantial length in the root zone howerever one plant made some noticable growth.
Then I killed them all and took these ones. Plain water following all advice to a T!!!
and do I get the results claimed in the tek? Even when I follow a tek to the T?
No I did not.
Now I have been a shroomery memeber and when your a noob its follow a tek to the T and you will get good results. That you can not go wrong.
And that has proven true on the shroomery. If you follow it to a T you results will be identical.
But that seems to not be the case here now does it? And now the tek lacks a bunch of pictures and I will also probably assume its missing text to.
You come to these sites to learn how to do something. To have instructions to do something and have the expected results that the tek is claiming to provide.
Not wet carpet for example. And slower than claimed results to boot.
Look here
http://www.growery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/196872#196872
This guy made an aero cloner and says you do not even need weather stripping at all. Seems to me the only reason it leeks is because of the weatherstripping.
He says this about speed they root.
i havent done a side by side and i havent done rockwool in like 6 months + but it definitely seems like it. i have foot long root bundles in 7-10 days, and its better than rockwool IMO because you're transplanting a bundle of roots right into your medium, rather than waiting for them to grow out of the rockwool and into whatever you're growing in.
Nothing about anything in 3 days and I am sure since it is aeroponics that they will grow very fast after they reach one inch so he very well gets his roots in 5-6 days and then they blast of in the low nutrient water since they are searching for foods.
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: Built an aero cloner and I can not get it to stop leaking! [Re: Budmanman]
#313474 - 11/10/09 12:52 AM (15 years, 14 days ago) |
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Do you realize that different strains can take more or less to root?? I've had cuttings that take 3-5 days to get good roots, and I've had strains that take a couple of weeks. Have some patience.
Have you rooted this strain you have before? How long did it take then?? Was it in rock wool??
Growing weed isn't the same as growing mushrooms man. It's actually a bit more difficult. Not everyone is going to get the same results as everyone else. Same goes on the shoomery too man.
You might want to lose some of the hostility. It's not really needed.
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Jeff Funk
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Re: Built an aero cloner and I can not get it to stop leaking! [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#313516 - 11/10/09 06:01 AM (15 years, 14 days ago) |
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Waaay to much attitude for anyone to waste their time helping you. Since you wanna challenge evryones results how bout you keep trial and erroring things like most people here who didnt have the growery to hold their hand.
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Budmanman
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Re: Built an aero cloner and I can not get it to stop leaking! [Re: Jeff Funk]
#313762 - 11/10/09 03:16 PM (15 years, 13 days ago) |
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I do not even under stand how his aero cloner was allowed to be considered a tek since it lacked SO MUCH information.
This site is pathetic I have never been hostil till now and no one has had any useful info.
I mean I got the guy who made the tek telling me if I only followed what he told me I would be fine.
and he told me virtually nothing.
This site is proving to be on the lower end of the grow sites.
But the shroomery is on the upper end of the shroom growing sites.
and I am sure many agree.
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Stoneth
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Re: Built an aero cloner and I can not get it to stop leaking! [Re: Budmanman]
#313768 - 11/10/09 03:35 PM (15 years, 13 days ago) |
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You no issues huh.
I remember this
http://www.growery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/298855#298855
We've tryed helping, you just don't want help is all.
A working ezcloner roots faster and will root with or without rooting gels and/or powders.
Why you're having so much trouble is beyond me.
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: Built an aero cloner and I can not get it to stop leaking! [Re: Budmanman]
#313992 - 11/11/09 05:37 AM (15 years, 13 days ago) |
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You don't even answer any of the questions I put to you. If you don't answer questions that are going to provide me with more information, how am I supposed to help you?
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
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