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Gah, I fucking suck at cloning!
    #293387 - 10/07/09 05:59 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I finally have the space to keep some moms, and I can't seem to get my fucking cuttings to root!

Here's my process-
- take cutting, remove all huge leaves except for one at the top and the growth chute.
- cut at a 45 degree angle at the bottom axial bud
- dip in roottech gel
- place in rapid rooter plug
- spray inside of dome
- place in growing chamber with CFL's

Should I leave more leaves? should I put them under my 600W? I'm so confused, I never imagined I would have this much of a problem with cloning, I've killed like 17 cuttings now in 2 attempts


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Re: Gah, I fucking suck at cloning! [Re: coda]
    #293400 - 10/07/09 06:35 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

they aren't really dying until about 2 weeks later, I'm just not seeing any roots. I've got one cutting that's almost 20 days old now, and it looks fresh as can be but still no roots. I don't really mist the dome because it's always got a layer of water on it, but I exchange the air daily.

so poking and removing the outer skin of the branch is the key? I have some razors, I guess I can just peel some of that off and see if it works better. I thought about that, but I was scared of causing an embolism by handling it so much


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Re: Gah, I fucking suck at cloning! [Re: Magash]
    #293430 - 10/07/09 07:17 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

so you're suggesting I use like neoprene inserts or something rather than the hormone gel and rapidrooter plugs? I think I can rig something like that up.

Should I keep them under my 600W HPS?

Also, how big of cuttings do you take? 2 nodes? 5 nodes? my mom's are only about a foot tall right now, I'd like to be able to take 2-3 clones from each one without removing half their shoots if possible


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Re: Gah, I fucking suck at cloning! [Re: Magash]
    #293453 - 10/07/09 07:59 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

well I just ghetto rigged one of those you were saying by cutting holes in tupperware and using an air pump from an old DWC setup of mine, about to go take some cuttings and see if I can get this to work. I'll be building a better one in the near future though


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Re: Gah, I fucking suck at cloning! [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #293465 - 10/07/09 08:34 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Alright Magash, thanks for your help man! Here's what I did, see if you approve

here are my 3 strains. I would like to start flowering but I want to preserve the genetics because I'm pretty excited to finally have the space to do the same strain more than once and try to perfect it (ie, no more seeds!!!).



here are my first ones, clearly not the happiest cuttings in the world, but the one in the middle is over 2 weeks old and still looks good, so I'm hoping it has some roots down there or something



and here's my new setup, the 3 clones in the tupperware. I was going to make more sites, but I didn't want to take too many cuttings, so instead they're all just kinda crowded. I might go get some better tupperware and neoprene inserts tomorrow and try to make this an actual nice cloner instead of this ghetto rigged beauty :grin:



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Re: Gah, I fucking suck at cloning! [Re: Lucid]
    #293590 - 10/07/09 11:43 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

lol, yeah I was kinda proud of myself, took like 10 minutes to jerry rig and I didn't spend a dollar, I'm just waiting for Magash to chime in and tell me if they've got a shot :grin:


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Re: Gah, I fucking suck at cloning! [Re: PFA]
    #294648 - 10/09/09 09:26 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

woo!!!!!! got some visible roots today!

oddly enough, it's on one of the first clones I ever took, almost 20 days ago now.... really getting yellow around the edges, but it's got roots now so I'm gonna see if I can keep it alive and vegging!


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Re: Gah, I fucking suck at cloning! [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #294790 - 10/10/09 10:38 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Magash, you're a fucking G!



Check this out! only 3 days after I took the cut! This is the only way I'm ever going to clone again




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Re: Gah, I fucking suck at cloning! [Re: Magash]
    #294813 - 10/10/09 11:37 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Yes sir I have been!

Did I hear you say once that you could never get roots in just 3 days?


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Re: Gah, I fucking suck at cloning! [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #294814 - 10/10/09 11:37 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

well not you specifically, just that cannabis would never root in 3 days


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Re: Gah, I fucking suck at cloning! [Re: Magash]
    #294848 - 10/10/09 12:40 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

you're an encyclopaedia, I love it. Well it's definitely not a piece of stem because I was careful about that while taking the cuttings, so hopefully it'll be showing some serious roots soon. When do you officially consider it "rooted?" or I guess, just when should I transplant to my hemp buckets?

And I'm being very careful about the water, Took those pictures during the 3rd water change already :grin:

I took one clone of each strain just to test out my tupperware thing, and it's looking like the pineapple express is the fastest so far.

Couple of last questions;
How much hormone should I put in the water each time? I've been putting as much as if I dipped the stems again and then just filling it with water.... good?


Also, do you have any experience with BrownBomber?  it's the only strain in my cabinet that I can't seem to find ANY information about. I'm wondering if my caregiver just made up the name because he likes the movie grandma's boy :confused:


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