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 Hawksresurrection
Registered: 12/04/08
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"Synthetic" chemicals are derived from natural sources.
And all these "Organic" nutrient lines are having a HUGE impact on the environment.
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Mycophile
Registered: 03/17/12
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As long as it doesn't end up like Rice Krispies weed (snap, crackle, poppin' when I burn it) then it's all good.
What about Genetically modified bud? 
Edited by Mycophile (07/10/12 03:42 PM)
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 Legalize
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Registered: 06/14/11
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Organic or non organic is all the same..Non organic is the same stuff just usually more concentrated, which in turn makes it man made..Look At H20 whether hydrogen and oxygen combine in nature or a lab to make water it's still water and there's no difference..Same atoms same molecules are used to make it ..Same with fertilizers.. Potassium is potassium whether made in the lab or nature..There's no difference or it wouldn't be potassium..Same with nitrogen ,phosphorus or anything else..I really don't see why these discussions are always coming up..Do people not think for themselves anymore? Seems like everyone just believes what someone else has told them ..People lie,people are misinformed,and people like to impress other people by how much they "know" even if they've never really thought about it or investigated the ideas themselves..Everyone needs to start just thinking on their own..
The plants break these back down and rebuild to what they need..So even if there was a slim possibility it mattered where it came from" which it doesn't" it doesn't now cause it's been broken down ,and rebuilt into something else..
Edited by Legalize (07/10/12 06:18 PM)
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Hawksresurrection
Registered: 12/04/08
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 Re: The organic myth.  [Re: Legalize]
#631253 - 07/10/12 04:02 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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That's why I was referring to the fact that they all come from natural sources.
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Magash
The Feminizer
Registered: 04/21/08
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I've said if before and I'll say it again if the bud is grown organically or with chemicals as long as it's properly grown you can't tell the difference.
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coastalcalifornia
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Re: The organic myth. [Re: Magash] 1
#631348 - 07/11/12 10:44 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yes - chemical based nutrients are derived from elements based on our planet, but that does NOT mean that all elements on this planet are beneficial to our health. Many fertilizers on the market are derived from petroleum. Why would you want to put that shit into your plants - your body or the environment?
100% organic and veganic nutrients are derived from vegetable sources. They provide readily available nutrients, are environmentally friendly, and sustainable.
Here is one example a natural element being harmful - this video clip of sulfur miners in Indonesia who suffer major health problems due to natural sulfur exposure. It is very sad but it is their only option to make a living for their family:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENY6z2pj2pQ
Be conscious of what your fertilizers are based of - they're ultimately ending up in your plants, your blood, and our earth.
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Legalize
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Here we go with another one.. Think 4 yourself..I like how you brought up petroleum..
Petroleum (L. petroleum, from Greek: petra (rock) + Latin: oleum (oil)[1][2]) or crude oil is a naturally occurring flammable liquid consisting of a complex mixture of hydrocarbons of various molecular weights and other liquid organic compounds, that are found in geologic formations beneath the Earth's surface. A fossil fuel, it is formed when large quantities of dead organisms, usually zooplankton and algae, are buried underneath sedimentary rock and undergo intense heat and pressure
Sounds like organic to me..
And i wont post in here anymore this thread really annoys me to look at ..
Edited by Legalize (07/11/12 11:04 AM)
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coastalcalifornia
Organic Grower
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Re: The organic myth. [Re: Legalize] 1
#631352 - 07/11/12 11:10 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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It is organic, Legalize, I'm not disputing that. I'm just asking people to think about what organic matter they put into their plants. Petroleum based fertilizers vs. vegetable based fertilizer? Vegetable based fertilizers are much better for your plants, your health, and the environment.
Peace, bro.
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Lysurgeon
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Registered: 07/11/12
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i started my first run in connoisseur organics soil...nothing butt water and molasses for the hole cycle....
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Hawksresurrection
Registered: 12/04/08
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Quote:
coastalcalifornia said:
Yes - chemical based nutrients are derived from elements based on our planet, but that does NOT mean that all elements on this planet are beneficial to our health. Many fertilizers on the market are derived from petroleum. Why would you want to put that shit into your plants - your body or the environment?
100% organic and veganic nutrients are derived from vegetable sources. They provide readily available nutrients, are environmentally friendly, and sustainable.
Here is one example a natural element being harmful - this video clip of sulfur miners in Indonesia who suffer major health problems due to natural sulfur exposure. It is very sad but it is their only option to make a living for their family:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENY6z2pj2pQ
Be conscious of what your fertilizers are based of - they're ultimately ending up in your plants, your blood, and our earth.
Actually most organic sources of nutrients from plants are derived from bat shit, fish meal (which is devastating our ocean system), horse, cow, pig, and chicken shit. And then the plants, mostly sea weed extract, which is also hurting out ocean system by harvesting.
Just because something is derived from petroleum doesn't automatically make it dangerous. The fish we are getting out of the ocean to make these ferts have a ton of mercury in them.
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coastalcalifornia
Organic Grower
Registered: 07/10/12
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Loc: California
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I moved from the east coast to the west coast years ago. When I first got here, I could taste a major difference in fruits and vegetables grown here.
I occasionally go back to the east coast and I can tell the difference in synthetic vs organically grown produce. Synthetically grown produce has a distinct chemical taste.
The same goes for buds.
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Hawksresurrection
Registered: 12/04/08
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That's funny. I'd love to have you do a blind taste test on it.
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coastalcalifornia
Organic Grower
Registered: 07/10/12
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I'm not being rude or disrespectful. I'm just giving my opinion taken from the decades I've been alive. I don't aim to convince anyone of anything.
It's your body - if you want to drink petroleum - go for it. If you want to eat fruit and vegetables - more power to you. Good luck with your choices.
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Hawksresurrection
Registered: 12/04/08
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Drink petroleum....come on dude. That's just scare tactic propaganda.
I've been on the earth as long as you. And have done a whole lot of research into this. The vegetables grown with synthetic vs organic ferts have no difference health wise. What you're needing to watch out for are the insecticides and herbicides and GMO's that are out there.
I'm all for you growing organically man. But I've seen blind taste tests and most people can't tell the difference or choose the synthetic one.
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
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coastalcalifornia
Organic Grower
Registered: 07/10/12
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Right on, man. Good post.
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Harry_Ba11sach
cannoisseur
Registered: 04/20/08
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Loc: Nepal 
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Quote:
coastalcalifornia said:
It is organic, Legalize, I'm not disputing that. I'm just asking people to think about what organic matter they put into their plants. Petroleum based fertilizers vs. vegetable based fertilizer? Vegetable based fertilizers are much better for your plants, your health, and the environment.
Peace, bro.
You know that they don't actually make the fertilizers from Petroleum right? That pernicious misstatement arose from people trying to argue that using synthetic fertilizers increases domestic petroleum consumption because of the processing factories and various other energy-intensive processes necessary to create the fertilizer. In no way does the plant food actually contain crude oil, that's just absurd.
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coastalcalifornia
Organic Grower
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