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Thor said:
No plans, we all agreed to start with one community forum, this site isn't going to be that big, that fast..
We wanted this forum to evolve without having to set hard rules, let people use their judgment.
We'll see how it goes, I've rather enjoyed the forum so far, the scat is a bit much,
but midgets, naked fat guys, pop cans coming out of asses, tranny's, etc..
All quality stuff.

But yeah nothing is set in stone, but just remember this isn't OTD, never will be; and its certainly not the pube.

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1) No Flaming, Baiting, Trolling, or Spamming
This includes no flaming in sigs, member titles, avatars, etc. Absolutely no racism. No illegal pictures, bestiality, scat, scat type porn, offensive porn, mutilated corpses or otherwise offensive pictures.

2) Respect your fellow posters at all times while posting in the Pub. We all have opinions and we can share them respectfully. Intentionally "derailing" or post whoring/drawing a thread off-topic is considered bad form and is not permitted. Do not post in someone else's thread or start a thread to say something malicious or harmful.
Be aware of the "Report Post" button on the bottom of every post.. this will notify all the forum moderators of that post.

3) Any post for the sole intent of causing drama will not be tolerated.

4) Post with the intention of causing intelligent discussion.

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Any violation of these rules and the post or thread in question may be locked and deleted. Violators will receive a warning from a moderator or admin. A further violation will result in a 24 hour ban. Subsequent violations will result in extended bans, from a week up to indefinite.. by the administration. This is only a standard procedure and not all results are the same.. it depends largely on the severity of the violations. Things are generally dealt with on a case-by-case basis. Chronic troublemakers may find themselves facing a forum ban or even a permanent ban

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Anno said:
>Because of this, I am still uncertain where the lines are drawn.

If you want to stay on the safe side, go with eh Shroomery's pub rules.

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Anno said:
>I'm saying I want the freedom to do so.

Here are you again with your "I want the freedom to do anything I want".
You can, believe me. Here is how: Create your own forum, and do whatever you want.

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Anno also said:
I can't speak for all the admins here, but personaly I am sick of people coming and DEMANDING things in a forum.
You don't have the right to demand anything on a privately owned forum. Get this in your head!

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Anno goes on to say:
>They never said that the Lounge was an exact replica of the Pub.

It isn't. What I said was: If you want to stay on the safe side, go with the Shroomery's pub rules.

The exact rules are going to crystallize themselves over time, just not today, and probably not this week. But they will eventually, since the relaxed approach that geokills suggested in the sticky thread in the Lounge obviously and sadly doesn't work.

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the relaxed approach that geokills suggested in the sticky thread in the Lounge obviously and sadly doesn't work.

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We'll see how it goes, I've rather enjoyed the forum so far, the scat is a bit much, but midgets, naked fat guys, pop cans coming out of asses, tranny's, etc.. All quality stuff.

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So, cans popping out of asses are ok, but goatse isn't .  And tranny's?  I consider them in the same mental category as scat.

I'm not planning on posting anything offensive, so it doesn't affect me too much, but I don't like seeing all these bans being handed out when things are so ambiguous.  Is it too much to request that a warning be handed out before the banstick starts flying?

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Anno said:
The exact rules are going to crystallize themselves over time, just not today, and probably not this week. But they will eventually, since the relaxed approach that geokills suggested in the sticky thread in the Lounge  obviously and sadly doesn't work.

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But Geo's proposed relaxation of the rules would work if the administration weren't so quick to punish users for doing something they had not known was against the rules at the time it was done.

So give us a warning for such infractions next time, before going all the way and banning us for said infraction, which we did not know was an infraction until afterwards.

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just me said:
and with such a small community here, its very noticable and kinda sadning when they go...

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These quotes pretty much sum up how I feel.  I don't care if there's going to be another "uncensored" forum.  I don't care if the Lounge ends up following Pub rules.  But as long as we're going by geokill's proposal, I think it would work a lot better with warnings than bans for the moment.

Free Hanky!

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Anno said:


I can't speak for all the admins here, but personaly I am sick of people coming and DEMANDING things in a forum.
You don't have the right to demand anything on a privately owned forum. Get this in your head!

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Anno said:
>Because of this, I am still uncertain where the lines are drawn.

If you want to stay on the safe side, go with eh Shroomery's pub rules.

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So you're saying that we should assume that the Lounge adopts the
Pub's rules in order to post in there and not worry about bannage?

Then would it be too much trouble to give us a sister forum that would
allow some of us to have more freedom, similar to Anything Goes,
but without the inclusion of posting PM's, personal info, or sources?

If you like, you can add some security provisions to it such as making it invite-only,
or having it accessible only to those who actively agree to a disclaimer,
(clicking a checkbox, for example), etc.

We should be allowed to post whatever we want (scat, shock images, etc.)
as long as others don't complain about it.
I'm not saying I want to do this, I'm just saying I want to be able
to do this should some situation arise where I find that doing so would be humorous.

Anyways, please give this some consideration, then get back to me.

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drSE said:
i do like the invite only forum idea though.

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Hanky said:
There shouldn't be a need for a second social forum.

If the minority of admins that seem to need to do lightning raids handing out weird and inconsistent bans could just learn to show some restraint and allow the new forum to develop its own distinct culture instead of disturbing the dynamics and confusing the members.

So far the Smoke lounge has run very smoothly for all concerned and I just cant understand the mentality of some of those with ban sticks that just cant help using them despite obvious evidence that the forum as a whole is running well.

One social forum with limited moderation should be ample. ie: Just as it has been running since it opened minus the few inconsistent bans.

Installing the Pub rules by default is a simplistic no brainer solution that defies the purpose of having a separate weed site to begin with.

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Omni said:

It's not that big of a deal man, if you want to post fetus corpses & scat then there's OTD.

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Sativus said:
I agree things are pretty fine the way that they are.  But there do seem to be a lot of 2-5 day bans for things which weren't known to be bannable offenses. 

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I hear what you're sayin' Sativus. I felt the short duration bans to be an effective way to get the message to stick with the end user.  I will take your concern under advisement however, and begin issuing warnings for first time offenses before banning people.  I guess I just got a little jaded 'cause it's always the same ol' shit from the same ol' people who just love an internet drama.  But your point has been taken, and I apologize for having been so quick to ban without prior warning (an admitted violation of my own protocol).



I hope that makes my position on the matter very clear.  This position may change over time as the site evolves, but for the time being, please just give me a break and play nice.

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Thor said:We'll see how it goes, I've rather enjoyed the forum so far, the scat is a bit much, but midgets, naked fat guys, pop cans coming out of asses, tranny's, etc.. All quality stuff.

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Geokills said:
Refrain from posting "shock" images that the majority of society would find hideous or disturbing.
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geokills said:
Hanky, you're just not as important to me as you seem to think (though I cannot deny the feel of this thorn in my side ).  I have banned quite a few members before I banned you, and no doubt will ban quite a few others after having banned you. Relax.

Sativus, I would tend to believe that the reason people may be so casual about flaming each other here is that the majority of existing and active members on this site have no doubt stemmed from the Shroomery's off-topic sections which are often rife with such behavior.  Let us also not forget that we did not import our ban list from the Shroomery, so members who have been restrited from accessing our other site (for good cause), are free to register here.  One theory would have it that the void of fresh members here has created a space populated by the Shroomery's most abraisive and disgruntled former members.  As I stated in Post #25292, "be mindful that we are attempting to attract a diverse new population to the Growery", and that will be facilitated through an inviting and friendly forum - not a forum full of immature and insulting discourse.

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