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Question:
    #22527 - 05/07/08 09:57 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

It has been suggested that the Smoke Lounge should fit somewhere in between the Pub and OTD
in terms of the rules and what the posters are allowed to get away with.

Because of this, I am still uncertain where the lines are drawn.
Personally, I don't plan on breaking any rules, at least,
not the kind that would get me banned from here.
However, other people may go to extremes and perform some
kind of action which may or may not be allowed by these floating rules.
Just banning someone because they broke a rule which wasn't clear to them isn't the way to go.

Until the rules are set in place for all of us to understand to the limits,
then warnings are necessary in cases of extreme conduct before any bans can take place.

Now I understand that some actions, such as posting personal information,
or making death threats, cannot be tolerated in any forum.
That goes without saying.
But when it comes to posting images which may be offensive to some,
how do you decide if that's a bannable offense?

How do I know if I'm going to get banned for something which was considered harmless the day before?
I don't.

So tell us - what is and what isn't allowed in the Smoke Lounge,
and stop banning people before these rules are made known to us.

Thank you.


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Tangerines said: "Real men quit cold turkey - alone in their rooms with no drugs."

OK so ... where is everyone? This place is so dead lately!

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Re: Question: [Re: just me]
    #22685 - 05/08/08 09:19 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

From this thread:
http://www.growery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7910#7910

Quote:

Thor said:
No plans, we all agreed to start with one community forum, this site isn't going to be that big, that fast..
We wanted this forum to evolve without having to set hard rules, let people use their judgment.
We'll see how it goes, I've rather enjoyed the forum so far, the scat is a bit much,
but midgets, naked fat guys, pop cans coming out of asses, tranny's, etc..
All quality stuff.

But yeah nothing is set in stone, but just remember this isn't OTD, never will be; and its certainly not the pube.



Please note the bolded and underlined portions in the quotes above.

Seems to me that what was fine yesterday, isn't fine today.
Is this really the way the administration wants to run this site?
I invite all admins to speak on this issue.

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Re: Question: [Re: Anno]
    #22701 - 05/08/08 09:57 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Anno said:
>Because of this, I am still uncertain where the lines are drawn.

If you want to stay on the safe side, go with eh Shroomery's pub rules.




So you're saying that we should assume that the Lounge adopts the
Pub's rules in order to post in there and not worry about bannage?

Then would it be too much trouble to give us a sister forum that would
allow some of us to have more freedom, similar to Anything Goes,
but without the inclusion of posting PM's, personal info, or sources?

If you like, you can add some security provisions to it such as making it invite-only,
or having it accessible only to those who actively agree to a disclaimer,
(clicking a checkbox, for example), etc.

We should be allowed to post whatever we want (scat, shock images, etc.)
as long as others don't complain about it.
I'm not saying I want to do this, I'm just saying I want to be able
to do this should some situation arise where I find that doing so would be humorous.

Anyways, please give this some consideration, then get back to me.

Thanks again.

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Re: Question: [Re: Anno]
    #22705 - 05/08/08 10:23 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Because it was stated long ago that the Lounge is somewhere between the Pub and OTD.
They never said that the Lounge was an exact replica of the Pub.

I'm not saying I want to post scat and shock images,
I'm fine not having any of that at all.
I'm saying I want the freedom to do so.

In other words, remove the censorship, which isn't really necessary.
I'm assuming everyone here is 18 and over, yes?

I always try to keep my posts tasteful and respectful to anyone who might read them.
I can't speak for others, however.
Should they be banned because they weren't posting the way I do?
I don't think so.

If you're absolutely against the added freedom and removal of censorship that
we're requesting, then please let us know, so that we can know what not to post.

Thanks for listening. :thumbup:

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Re: Question: [Re: Anno]
    #22713 - 05/08/08 10:46 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Anno said:
>I'm saying I want the freedom to do so.

Here are you again with your "I want the freedom to do anything I want".
You can, believe me. Here is how: Create your own forum, and do whatever you want.




No, I'm not speaking of me personally, but other people who post in here.
I'm fine with not posting scat or shock images, etc.

Quote:

Anno also said:
I can't speak for all the admins here, but personaly I am sick of people coming and DEMANDING things in a forum.
You don't have the right to demand anything on a privately owned forum. Get this in your head!



I never demanded anything.
I know the admins run this site and it's completely their choice to decide
what should and what shouldn't be allowed in here.
Again, I don't have a problem with that.

Quote:

Anno goes on to say:
>They never said that the Lounge was an exact replica of the Pub.

It isn't. What I said was: If you want to stay on the safe side, go with the Shroomery's pub rules.

The exact rules are going to crystallize themselves over time, just not today, and probably not this week. But they will eventually, since the relaxed approach that geokills suggested in the sticky thread in the Lounge obviously and sadly doesn't work.



But Geo's proposed relaxation of the rules would work if the administration
weren't so quick to punish users for doing something they had not known was
against the rules at the time it was done.

So give us a warning for such infractions next time, before going all the way and
banning us for said infraction, which we did not know was an infraction until afterwards.

So to recap: If the administration wants the Lounge to operate as the Pub does over on the other site, please make that known to us.
Personally, I'm fine with it. I can't say the same for how the others feel about this.
I would prefer more leniency as I have requested several times,
but this is only a request - it is not a demand.
I never demand things from any administration (except the U.S. gov, but that's another issue). It's not my place to do so.
If the Lounge is to be less censored and less restrictive than the Pub, let us know by how much.
At the moment, it's a crap shoot: "Can I post this? I dunno ... maybe ...".

For now, I will post by the Pub's rules - I don't want to be banned.
I will inform the others to do the same, if they should be interested.

If Ythan and/or Thor would like to add to this, I would love to hear from them.

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Re: Question: [Re: Sativus]
    #22811 - 05/08/08 02:22 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Exactly what I've been saying!

:congrats:

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Re: Question: [Re: highasfuck]
    #23293 - 05/08/08 11:34 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

They're not ready to pick out new mods just yet.

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Re: Question: [Re: geokills]
    #25297 - 05/10/08 08:24 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

We're not looking for Internet drama, at least, I'm not.

We're asking not to be banned for breaking rules we didn't know were in place.

If you want the Lounge to operate under the same rules as the Pub, then let us know this.
If you want us to have more flexibility, then show us where the borders are.

Meanwhile, I'm gonna think of more ideas to help expand this place.

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Re: Question: [Re: geokills]
    #25318 - 05/10/08 08:37 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Yes - that will do nicely.
Thank you. :thumbup:

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Re: Question: [Re: geokills]
    #25347 - 05/10/08 09:09 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I wish I had time to travel.
I'm way too busy to even leave the city.

One of these days, I'll get vacation time.
I'd love to try Rio. They must have some awesome rum down there.
We'll see ...

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