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 MistaUNGA
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 Re: Obama won  [Re: usg543]
#115843 - 08/29/08 01:53 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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usg543 said:
he looks at it from a very basic economic standpoint. i wish everyone could see it this way, but it seems like most people are only voting for obama because it's the 'cool' thing to do these days. fuck that.
how dare you use economics to dissuade people from our beloved barry?
everytime i debate an obamite, they give me this reason and that reason as to why he's so great. then i talk about money. where's the money come from for these programs? then the next question is always this: have you ever taken an economics course outside of highschool? and the response? "no". not like "no, i guess i should". just "no". "i have no idea about how the flow of money works, but go obama!"
it's a fucking joke. macroeconomics should be a mandatory GE for every higher-edu institution in this country. no wonder we have people signing on to this bogus mortgages and such.
follow the money trail. we've all heard it.
but you can't follow it if you don't know where the fuck it starts.
and most people seem to forget it starts with individuals, deciding to spend their hard earned money on some good or service, which in turn causes another individual to profit and thereby improves economic conditions a la the invisible hand method proposed by adam smith.
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ExplosiveMango said:
If everyone could do mushroom, yes, it would be a wonderful world. This will never be, only some can do mushrooms. It is the responsibility of those of us who see the world most clearly to pass the clarity on to those who cannot bare to wear our lenses.
Madtowntripper said:Or just give her a cloroform soaked rag and tell her it's ether!
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MistaUNGA
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...by leaving iraq and either detouring to iran or backtracking into afghanistan? 
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9995
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He summed up his policy as “a responsible redeployment of our combat troops that pushes Iraq’s leaders toward a political solution, rebuilds our military, and refocuses on Afghanistan and our broader security interests.
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9616
what's obama going to do with the vatican-sized US embassy in Baghdad? is he really going to pull all troops out? no he will undoubtedly leave some sort of noticeable force in iraq, just like we have in germany, japan and korea, to name a few.
obama's pulling a big cart of horse-shit and he's got a lot of buyers.
i don't buy horse-shit for a second. (except to grow stuff...;))
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ExplosiveMango said:
If everyone could do mushroom, yes, it would be a wonderful world. This will never be, only some can do mushrooms. It is the responsibility of those of us who see the world most clearly to pass the clarity on to those who cannot bare to wear our lenses.
Madtowntripper said:Or just give her a cloroform soaked rag and tell her it's ether!
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MistaUNGA
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no no no.
dont go there.
i never watch tv. except food network. i hate faux news with a passion. i am not one of their pawns.
they are part of the reason, along with the rest of the mainstream media, that americans have been duped into this bullshit war on terror, which is just as bullshit as the war on drugs, which are both as much (if not more) a war on us as individuals, rather than the "threats" we perceive to fight..
i'm not saying it's not necessary to go into afghanistan. i realize we have unfinished business with bin laden there, as well as the rising taliban threat.
but i'm not so naive to believe that obama is just going to end the war immediately. for one thing, it is just not logistically possible. it is obvious we will have some sort of sustained presence. but it is naive to think we will fully withdraw from iraq, as so many of his supporters believe. again, i point to the occupied WWII countries. he will not stop the globalist scheme.
he also perpetuates the "threat" of iran. there has been absolutely no evidence to show that the iranians are working for any sort of weaponized nuclear program. they have enriched uranium, and have adheared to all UN resolutions regarding their situations. THEY ARE IN NO VIOLATION WHATSOEVER. yet our propaganda machine feeds us the lines that they are going to attack US! they certainly will if we provoke them, which is exactly what we're doing.
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ExplosiveMango said:
If everyone could do mushroom, yes, it would be a wonderful world. This will never be, only some can do mushrooms. It is the responsibility of those of us who see the world most clearly to pass the clarity on to those who cannot bare to wear our lenses.
Madtowntripper said:Or just give her a cloroform soaked rag and tell her it's ether!
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MistaUNGA
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Re: Obama won [Re: Picklez]
#115861 - 08/29/08 03:36 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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i suggest the russians invade phoenix, bomb the living shit out of it, and then develop an embassy the size of the kremlin. how'd you like that one?
embassies are not american soil. it's foreign soil that we stole.
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ExplosiveMango said:
If everyone could do mushroom, yes, it would be a wonderful world. This will never be, only some can do mushrooms. It is the responsibility of those of us who see the world most clearly to pass the clarity on to those who cannot bare to wear our lenses.
Madtowntripper said:Or just give her a cloroform soaked rag and tell her it's ether!
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MistaUNGA
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Re: Obama won [Re: Picklez]
#115862 - 08/29/08 03:42 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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ExplosiveMango said:
If everyone could do mushroom, yes, it would be a wonderful world. This will never be, only some can do mushrooms. It is the responsibility of those of us who see the world most clearly to pass the clarity on to those who cannot bare to wear our lenses.
Madtowntripper said:Or just give her a cloroform soaked rag and tell her it's ether!
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MistaUNGA
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Re: Obama won [Re: Picklez]
#115864 - 08/29/08 03:50 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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it doesn't matter who does it.
the point is that it is wrong.
we have as much right to occupy iran and iraq as they do us. so if you're ok with us occupying other countries, you should be ok with them possibly occupying us.
our being a "superpower" is irrelevant. that doesn't put us above common law. we have no right to go over there and dictate to them what to do. they have a different culture than we do completely, so who are we to decide what's right and wrong? we have different views of right and wrong.
in our society, women are equal. in theirs, they are not. does that make them wrong? according to whom?
the whole argument is asinine. provocative wars are unamerican, and that is undoubtedly what iraq and iran are.
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ExplosiveMango said:
If everyone could do mushroom, yes, it would be a wonderful world. This will never be, only some can do mushrooms. It is the responsibility of those of us who see the world most clearly to pass the clarity on to those who cannot bare to wear our lenses.
Madtowntripper said:Or just give her a cloroform soaked rag and tell her it's ether!
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MistaUNGA
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Re: Obama won [Re: Picklez]
#115869 - 08/29/08 04:08 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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my point is that it's wrong.
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MistaUNGA said:
our being a "superpower" is irrelevant. that doesn't put us above common law. we have no right to go over there and dictate to them what to do.
question about the NPT:
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Iran is part of the NPT agreement which states the 5 superpowers who are allowed to have nuclear weapons which include; United States, England, Russia, China, and France. Those 5 nations are responsible for safegaurding the nuclear stability of the world.
what about israel, pakistan, and all of the other nuclear-armed nations? it's not just 5 countries that have nukes.
alas, we have strayed from our original discussion. the point is that obama will not change our present course. he will not stop the iraq war. or at least not completely. he is continuing the anti-iran rhetoric spewing forth from the white house. he will worsen our economy by burdening us with extra taxpayer-funded programs that breed government bureaucracy and inefficiency.
in short,
WE ARE FUCKED.
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ExplosiveMango said:
If everyone could do mushroom, yes, it would be a wonderful world. This will never be, only some can do mushrooms. It is the responsibility of those of us who see the world most clearly to pass the clarity on to those who cannot bare to wear our lenses.
Madtowntripper said:Or just give her a cloroform soaked rag and tell her it's ether!
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MistaUNGA
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explain.
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ExplosiveMango said:
If everyone could do mushroom, yes, it would be a wonderful world. This will never be, only some can do mushrooms. It is the responsibility of those of us who see the world most clearly to pass the clarity on to those who cannot bare to wear our lenses.
Madtowntripper said:Or just give her a cloroform soaked rag and tell her it's ether!
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MistaUNGA
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what do you mean? which post are you referring to?
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ExplosiveMango said:
If everyone could do mushroom, yes, it would be a wonderful world. This will never be, only some can do mushrooms. It is the responsibility of those of us who see the world most clearly to pass the clarity on to those who cannot bare to wear our lenses.
Madtowntripper said:Or just give her a cloroform soaked rag and tell her it's ether!
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MistaUNGA
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Registered: 04/22/08
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Re: Obama won [Re: usg543]
#116117 - 08/30/08 02:13 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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i'm registered republican but i'm libertarian in nature.
(typical ron paul follower...)
i'm still undecided as to whom i'll vote for, either bob barr or chuck baldwin. i'm leaning baldwin because of barr's past record, but i feel barr will make more of an impact than baldwin.
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ExplosiveMango said:
If everyone could do mushroom, yes, it would be a wonderful world. This will never be, only some can do mushrooms. It is the responsibility of those of us who see the world most clearly to pass the clarity on to those who cannot bare to wear our lenses.
Madtowntripper said:Or just give her a cloroform soaked rag and tell her it's ether!
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MistaUNGA
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i live in california.
this state is obama no matter what. so it doesn't really matter whom i vote for.
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ExplosiveMango said:
If everyone could do mushroom, yes, it would be a wonderful world. This will never be, only some can do mushrooms. It is the responsibility of those of us who see the world most clearly to pass the clarity on to those who cannot bare to wear our lenses.
Madtowntripper said:Or just give her a cloroform soaked rag and tell her it's ether!
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MistaUNGA
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Re: Obama won [Re: Picklez]
#116186 - 08/30/08 07:30 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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if diebold gets their way, it will be 
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ExplosiveMango said:
If everyone could do mushroom, yes, it would be a wonderful world. This will never be, only some can do mushrooms. It is the responsibility of those of us who see the world most clearly to pass the clarity on to those who cannot bare to wear our lenses.
Madtowntripper said:Or just give her a cloroform soaked rag and tell her it's ether!
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