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what'd you do!?

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I think maybe I'm going to contact the staff of reddit and Facebook and ask them to permanently hot ban me forever. Couldn't possibly hurt me at all

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Texas Honey Badger said:
Yeah it’s a really bad thread
And a bad idea 👎

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I should ban you for 30 minutes for coming up with this thread.

I feel my inner stoney activating....    

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SameThing said:
Nah i asked for mushrooms in a pm.

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SameThing said:
Nah i asked for mushrooms in a pm.

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SameThing said:
Nah i asked for mushrooms in a pm.

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You asked the wrong person

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SameThing said:
I asked in a joking rhetorical sense but the guy thought i was serious so he gave me an official warning and so i gave him shit about a few things and he responded by banning me fir 89 days as a flex. It actually sucked because i got fired from my job and became homeless and had a psychotic episode all at the same time and i couldnt access any help from the shroomery forums to get me through it so i just had to endure a period of bad times.

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Holy shit that sounds like me lol, I hit the shroomery ban lotto  the day before major jaw surgery. I couldn't access the only place to make me feel better during my recovery, shit sucked

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Fleabag Friend said:
That and you'd probably get a lot of "PLUR MAAAAN"

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spirit_shadow said:
Money doesn't matter. It is an archaic idea especially with the development of AI. The entire societal paradigm will change sooner or later. There will probably be more wars because most humans have monkey brains. Fuck it all

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spirit_shadow said:
The idea of money is stupid. There has to be order, yes, but money makes no sense. If the earth got together and delegated everything properly we could be populating other planets by now. But as I said most humans have monkey brains and fight over shit that literally does not matter

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spirit_shadow said:
I'm not fucking up my money. I just think the whole concept of it is stupid and archaic. As I said I am forced to be in this current system so I operate within the systems rules. That does not mean I can not disagree with the system.

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This. You can play the game and realize its bullshit.

Currency was created as a universal medium with which to barter. Instead of directly exchanging goods, you exchange goods for magical paper or shiny coins, and then use that universal exchange medium to procure other goods that you need.

It makes bartering easier, because instead of having to produce cotton and clothing because the baker only needs clothing, you can focus on only producing cotton, exchange it with the local textile mill or whatever, and then using that universal medium to get bread from the baker.

The reason we (humans) need the concept of money at all is because we are tiny-minded. If we could choose to operate as a cohesive society, then resources and goods produced from those resources would be shared as needed. There would be no wealthy or powerful, and there would be no poor or subjugated. We would all have what we needed, and the society could re-direct what is currently excessive and unnecessary resource consumption (like mining/refining semiconductor materials, assembling them into ASICs using extremely energy-intensive and water-hogging processes like photolithography, and then burning shitloads of fossil fuels to produce shitloads of electrical energy, just to convert it to waste heat solving made up math problems to generate virtual money via the concept of proof of work (aka the digital currency is worth what you sacrifice in energy)) towards protein folding simulations that help to fast-track medical research, toward space exploration (look at all we've accomplished when NASA's budget is 3% of the size of the US defense budget), and toward the next few steps in humanity's evolution.

The problem is that we separate into tribes based on made-up differences, establish made-up physical boundaries to separate the tribes, realize that we can't live that way and establish overly-complicated diplomatic and trade policies, and then use violence to fill in the rest. We almost have that unanimous agreement to share resources and work toward common goals, but still cling to our old concepts of ownership, tribes, countries, and money, which are all human-created institutions that wouldn't be needed if we could just get past our monkey-brain methods of doing things that haven't been relevant since we came up with agriculture.

How do I know this? Because I'm Data and I live in a time when money is no longer a relevant concept for the United Federation of Planets. 

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spirit_shadow said:
Fuck all current political ideologies. There needs to be a new better system. But as I said people are crazy and won't want to do it, therefore wars. Oh well I don't care about any of it honestly.

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spirit_shadow said:
Fuck all current political ideologies. There needs to be a new better system. But as I said people are crazy and won't want to do it, therefore wars. Oh well I don't care about any of it honestly.

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i don't know what to do with all my freedoms, i desire more regulations

trust me, where you are now is about as good as it gets, and if you have complaints there are places that would pay you to help them save money trying to help other people. The world aint so bad. Especially not in the US. There's a reason so many people are trying to come here and it's not tyranny lol

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But isn't that mentality a stagnant cop-out as well? If it's about as good as it gets, then why bother existing? Comparing your situation to situations that you know are worse, or comparing the present situation to the past is not so much an indication that we've reached the pinnacle of existence, but more a proof that the constant struggle to be better than we are now results in positive change.

For instance, the US is a country founded on liberty and democracy. Yet, we are now consistently rated as a backsliding democracy by many metrics, and there are several countries that have more transparent and fair democracies that place more governance with the people of those countries. Is our system better than the majority of the world? Fuck yea. Is the best system in the world? Fuck no. Can we work to try and be the best system in the world? I hope so.

Same thing with unrestricted capitalism. Do you technically have the ability in a free-market economy to pull yourself up by your bootstraps, combine intelligent planning with a shitload of hard work, and rise from the lower or middle classes to be a millionaire? Yea of course you can. But there are problems with that system where the first to reach that state of extreme wealth and power can use that power to manipulate the economical ecosystem to keep up-and-coming businesses struggling for the leftovers, or can make starting a business prohibitively expensive or competitive to the point where simply working for the larger corporations is an easier and more reliable way to make ends meet and be comfortable. Additionally, institutions founded on and primarily motivated by money and assets historically do not act in the best interest of the people or the environment. This sort of power and wealth concentration into a small group of people also tends to allow individual biases and prejudices that deviate from the majority population to be baked into the laws and policies of the country, which tend to favor certain populations more than others. This has the overall effect of not being truly free and equal, and it really depends who your parents/friends are. I'm living proof of this problem in the US. I freely admit that while I worked hard and sacrificed to get where I am, that I had a lot of help and extra opportunity being born into a family of middle-class, well-networked white family in one of the nicer states in the south at that time, and I probably would be no where near where I am without that extra push from the environment that I was lucky enough to be born in.

On the flip-side, communism is a failed implementation of socialism that claimed but failed to deliver on eliminating the class struggle, and used that claim to funnel resources and power up to an elite few, just like unrestricted capitalism inevitably does. This was spirit's point that most modern ideologies in their pure forms are fucked and lead to corruption and tyranny. They function in some respects, and are better than their predecessors from the middle ages and before, but tend to drift into dystopia as they mature. I (and I imagine spirit) believe that there is a way to combine some of the positives of each ideology, in order to avoid the negative states and effects that each pure ideology tends to drift into.

This struggle to remove obvious flaws and work towards better solutions than we have today is what built up modern society, and will be what pushes until the next step.

Anyway, I keep talking like all of this IS the way some other Mandalorian BS, when its just my opinion...so definitely take it as that. I don't want this to turn into some boomery-level shitshow thread haha.

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kreg said:
It saddens me reading things like this so quickly after thanksgiving.
Propaganda talk. The rhetoric all alludes to the same thing in my head and it's communism. I'm not cool with socialism either theyve both killed millions of people. Starvation isn't funny. Mass starvation isn't funny. Not allowing people to grow their own food isn't funny.

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kreg said:
You can grow your own food. No one is stopping you. You can go out and hunt your own food just do it correctly and don't over-hunt and fuck up the ecosystem etc, there are very easy to follow laws on it that will get you plenty of meat to last you years.

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kreg said:
As far as the royal family crap.... know what other kinda territory that leads into?

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kreg said:
Let me put it this way, I'm sure both of you own things that you do not need, things that could help someone else's life more than yours, so why don't you give those things away? Are you too greedy? You still have both your kidneys I presume yes? Why haven't you given them to those in need yet? Are you some kind of wealthy power-freak that seeks world domination? How dare you have 1 can of old beans in your cubbard?

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This is also the argument used by major corporations when the public tries to hold them accountable for their unethical or environmentally irresponsible practices. "Unless you've given up everything, you're a hypocrite and don't have the moral foundation to judge others". All while creating more plastic waste and occupying a larger carbon footprint than the US consumer base.

Again, its ok to be part of the problem and call for change. Everyone is guilty of over-consumption at times, of burning fossil fuels or buying products that are carbon-heavy or unsustainable, of using electricity to keep warm even when its generated by fossil fuels. But what about the lack of enforcement of sustainable practices for those corporations that produce the products and packaging that we consume with few alternative options? What about the municipal waste management programs all over the country that have started dumping the recycling into the landfill because china stopped buying our shitty mixed-waste recycling, and tax revenue has been cut to bits or lined the pockets of government officials, so there's nothing left to fund a local recycling program? What about the untold billions in lobbying by utilities and corporations to keep environmental regulation to a minimum so that they can keep raking in billions and billions while the planet goes to hell?

These are big societal problems that require big societal actions in order to solve. Even if I gave up everything I had, it wouldn't amount to a drop in the bucket, and all of the corporations and government officials that are fucking you from behind wouldn't give two shits if I became homeless in protest of the current system. I make efforts where I can to change what I consume, which companies I support, how much of my purchases are unnecessary, etc., but ultimately things aren't going to change from individual actions alone. There is a balance between individual responsibility and action, and society-level regulation of all entities, be it individual, corporate, or industrial in nature.

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kreg said:
we're talking about all of this, again, on the for-profit website discussion focused on illegal drugs. You know what happens to you if you get caught with a little weed in China? Singapore? Thailand?
we have some privileges and luxuries

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kreg said:
I just don't think having basic human rights is a joke. Or things like constant access to clean water and electricity... the internet.... school, work

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kreg said:
I know none of us have all the answers, maybe I'm just not as much an anarchist as everyone else lol.

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I think you may be misinterpreting our message again. Pointing out problems, or politely advocating for something different from the two or three extremes presented...does not mean that we want to burn it all down and go without order, logic, or a functional government. That is also a false dichotomy.

That being said, you can think of me or spirit or CC and our opinions as anarchist communist nazis if you want, we still love you, kreg, and I'm gonna roll a joint in your name later today just for the fuck of it!

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There's always room for improvement, and that doesn't necessarily mean that we consume more or take away from those that have less than us to do so.

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I'm not sure I follow you here, maybe you can elaborate?

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IDK the rhetoric just seemed self antagonizing to me, im still re reading through your last post

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kreg said:
My focal point being why choose to live a narrative where you're the antagonist? Surely that's not good for you and when you do things that are bad for you, you and everyone around you suffer.

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kreg said:
And God bless  we have the freedom to seek and work on those improvements. Some countries just discussion like this would get you in trouble, talks of dissent and conspiracy.

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kreg said:
i love this guy, this event just made me love him more. Imagine the heavy ass testicles of steel to have a straight face in that interview with that unscripted question and say "Yeah I don't know what that is"

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I love this clip

I mean, I would have to think for a minute on that question...and I think the anchor really made it a more difficult memorization question by not just saying "What would you do about Syria?".

Johnson played it off really well though, lol.

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Fleabag Friend said:
Paw made a similar thread in OTD and now I am bannoreds

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Fleabag Friend said:
Paw made a similar thread in OTD and now I am bannoreds

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haaa. I can't do OTD. I obviously understand humor and jokes but that part of my brain must be where all the olneys lesions are going or something. If i'm having a bad day and someone is joking with me it will piss me off, and I hardly ever throw jokes back other people's way. Puns and like dad jokes sometimes, word play stuff. Even if I'm not having a bad day I just don't process uh rude banter? I don't even know what it's called.

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Im with kreg. The most I'll do is push 1234go and koods buttons

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Fleabag Friend said:
Paw made a similar thread in OTD and now I am bannoreds

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The fuckker banneroreds me also

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post in this thread and you have to delete 2 ancient shitposts as a volunteer ejanitor

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Fleabag Friend said:
Post in this thread and become a Certified Nigga!

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