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 Re: TRUMP 2020  [Re: Amanita86]
#842300 - 01/16/20 05:19 AM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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There was a book out a few years back titled The Battle of Rome, and it got down to a street level on how jews and people who helped the jews ran networks and even waged attack on the natzis. I think I have the right title, anyways, it’s a really good book if you’re ever interested in guerilla type fight strategies. Just tossing that out there as I suspect those lessons will come into play again one of these days..
Yeah, I know that one, but the title is wrong. The book title is poseidon.
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Mof]
#842305 - 01/16/20 06:27 AM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Lol mof, you sound just like a climate change denier.
Just because you havent run the numbers yourself, and just because your intuition doesn't result in 6 million figure, you therefore conclude that it was all a giant conspiracy whipped up out of nowhere.
I can't change your mind, that was never the point. The point was that XUL meets the criteria for holocaust denier. Plain and simple. I'm not going to promote further deterioration of this thread into a discussion of whether the holocaust is a thing. The evidence is there, free for all to look up, and you, like XUL, can choose to cherry-pick whatever you want and called it all candy canes if you want. Your actual opinions are your own. 
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Data]
#842307 - 01/16/20 06:50 AM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Data said:
Lol mof, you sound just like a climate change denier.
That's the thing about you Data: You exist to be "infallible" and cast judgement.
"He's racist."
"He's a climate change denier."
Instead of debating a position, you make ad hominem attacks and then instantaneously insist that the conversation must end. Here is one instance of you making personal attacks and then ending the conversation:
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I'm not going to promote further deterioration of this thread into a discussion of whether the holocaust is a thing.
The other examples of you doing this is when you type racially charged messages to me, wait for me to explain my position, and then threaten to ban me in PM -- ending the conversation.
I am genuinely interested to compare positions with you, but I don't see you making it past your own ignorance. Plug your ears and say, "No, no, no, no! It can't be true and I won't hear it."
"Infallible."
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL]
#842312 - 01/16/20 07:35 AM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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As I've said before, I never claimed to be infallible.
I was not attacking mof, I was simply drawing similarities with a group that I'm more familiar with. The chain of logical fallacy is very similar, and I clearly explained that. If you choose to take my words out of context, that's on you.
And I'm not shutting down the convo, I'm simply refusing to participate further in a discussion about holocaust denial, especially since this thread was originally a racially-charged ad for Trump 2020, and not your original holocaust denial thread.
The only debate going on was whether you are a holocaust denier. Debates are based on logic and facts. I have presented my case, and you have done nothing to counter. Mof chose to initiate side rants about justifying genocide by pointing at other sources of casualties and genocides.
I didn't tell anyone to stop discussion, just like I didn't tell you to stop posting in that complimentary PM that you keep butthurting about. 
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Data]
#842313 - 01/16/20 07:49 AM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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if you go to cambodia you can litterally see how genocide changed the landscape of the earth
the millions of deaths were all accounted for
the millions of deaths in the holocaust are in a very grey area for me
I suspect that the allies themselves killed them when they blew up everything
and not that the nazis were killing every last person alive for being jewish
there was a unit in russia that came across the einsatzgruppen
they mentioned treason, petty theft, rape etc. as reasons the nazi's killed people
never once did they say they were jewish
i've also read sources that said "all kykes in this area are to report"
kyke is an american word from america
the other translations in german, ukranian and russian, not english
so another source said it was "all -ki's in this area are to report"
so which is it, is it all the jewish circles or is it that family name?
the fact that you think there's hard data about that time period is entertaining to me
half of europe was under 4 different regime changes in the span of 10-20 years
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Mof]
#842314 - 01/16/20 07:51 AM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Mof]
#842316 - 01/16/20 08:10 AM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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This is America! (mindfreeze) Free speech allows any American to believe in and be whatever they want. So if ur racist, facist, communist, socialist, capitalist, democrat, republican, have 31 identities, or whatever other labels u have been given or want to have then more power to ya. U cant have love without hate nor peace without war... Without pain how would u know that pleasure felt good vs bad.
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Mof]
#842317 - 01/16/20 08:15 AM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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You have your anecdotal cherry picking of data and complex logical leaps to your conclusions. You do you, bruh.
I'll stick to census data comparisons and direct testimony from Nazi officers. 
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Mof]
#842318 - 01/16/20 08:25 AM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Mof said:
the fact that you think there's hard data about that time period is entertaining to me
half of europe was under 4 different regime changes in the span of 10-20 years
Indeed. Great point.
The holocaust is blown out of proportion in order to keep whites from being proud. It's used as a tool to bludgeon the white man and convince him to hate himself. How many times has Trump been called a Nazi? Thousands.
The Muslim Arabs ran a slave trade wherein they pillaged entire white towns in coastal Europe -- taking women and children as slaves. They also did this to black Africans. But does calling someone an Muslim hold the same weight as calling someone a Nazi? No.
The holohoax story is being told by the wrong people -- biased people -- people who have something to earn from telling it more grimly. Reparations were and still are enticing for the Jewish people. To this day, they receive reparations.
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The Prime Minister of Poland has declared that paying compensation for Jewish property stolen during the Holocaust would be a “victory for Hitler” and he will never allow it to happen.
https://www.algemeiner.com/2019/05/19/polish-prime-minister-reparations-for-jewish-property-stolen-during-the-holocaust-would-be-victory-for-hitler/
And now America gives aid to Israel and in return they have to buy our weapons. How does that even make sense? And then we spend more time in the middle east.
Nay.
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Data]
#842327 - 01/16/20 11:04 AM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Data said:
You have your anecdotal cherry picking of data and complex logical leaps to your conclusions. You do you, bruh.
I'll stick to census data comparisons and direct testimony from Nazi officers.
I can take any data you have and rip it apart, visualize it, find patterns
the point was that things are fucky
eye witness' lie a lot, don't even remember the face of the people who robbed them the majority of the time
I'll stick with forensic science on this
in my opinion there are still 1-2 million people missing out of the 6 gorillian (1 million of which died in combat, then maybe a million or couple million more who were relatives of the combatants, 100k dying from starvation after the war, 500k probably dying during the invasion from disease, having bombs dropped on them while they work in the factories which the allies targeted, etc.
I'd accuse the soviets of sweeping their kills under the rug before I'd accuse the nazi's of killing more than 1.5 million people in gassings)
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Mof]
#842328 - 01/16/20 11:59 AM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Data
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Mof]
#842329 - 01/16/20 12:21 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Mof said:
I can take any data you have and rip it apart, visualize it, find patterns
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Mof said:
the point was that things are fucky
eye witness' lie a lot, don't even remember the face of the people who robbed them the majority of the time
I'll stick with forensic science on this
in my opinion there are still 1-2 million people missing out of the 6 gorillian (1 million of which died in combat, then maybe a million or couple million more who were relatives of the combatants, 100k dying from starvation after the war, 500k probably dying during the invasion from disease, having bombs dropped on them while they work in the factories which the allies targeted, etc.
I'd accuse the soviets of sweeping their kills under the rug before I'd accuse the nazi's of killing more than 1.5 million people in gassings)
Ok.
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 Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Data]
#842745 - 01/27/20 07:46 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: vinsue]
#842746 - 01/27/20 07:52 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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None of the democratic candidates have a chance on Trump.
The heart of America still beats -- even if not for long.
MAGA
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 Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL]
#842750 - 01/27/20 08:15 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: vinsue]
#842751 - 01/27/20 08:24 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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God, Christ in man, man over woman, woman over children.
He ought to get Michelle Malkin. A person of COLOR.
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: vinsue] 1
#842794 - 01/28/20 08:39 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Trump keeps on winning and winning and winning and winning. All while the globalists kick and scream.
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Another win against immigration: "The Supreme Court will allow the Trump administration to enforce, for now, its "public charge" immigration restriction, lifting a pair of preliminary injunctions issued by federal judges. The administration’s rule would restrict immigrants entering the United States if the government believes they will rely on public assistance, such as housing or health care benefits."
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/supreme-court-allows-trump-administration-to-enforce-public-charge-immigration-restriction?fbclid=IwAR1D6d0lX8wpTxWUVDkWAGIc9z93xE02JxwGfryzsyNGJkT0snZqsTnfOBI
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL]
#842798 - 01/28/20 10:53 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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You’re a bad person for wanting a countries assistance programs to benefit it’s actual citizens.
Boy that opens a can of worms, assistance programs and who they benefit..
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Amanita86]
#842802 - 01/28/20 02:08 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said:
You’re a bad person for wanting a countries assistance programs to benefit it’s actual citizens.
Boy that opens a can of worms, assistance programs and who they benefit..
We pay for these people to come spread their crappy beliefs. Statues toppled, heritage spit on, and guns ready to be voted out.
There is no turning back from any of this if we let it keep going. Our culture and ancestors' work will be gone forever.
https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/2014/10/16/chapter-2-latinos-views-on-selected-2014-ballot-measure-issues/
We need an entire moratorium on immigration. And then we need a moratorium on anyone receiving benefits. Use the money we saved to build the wall.
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL]
#842805 - 01/28/20 02:52 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don’t have very high hopes of this ‘experiment’ working out favorably. There’s just too many pieces of shit in the world, of all races, creeds and colors. Our slave masters are now fully armed governments and they do not like it when we ask for our freedom. It’s just too chaotic to isolate the problem and fix it, the house is coming down and I don’t think it’s too far off.
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