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Re: Led light question [Re: Jml417]
    #824727 - 03/14/17 11:37 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Depends on how much light you have, but the white is for veg and you use both for flower. Sometimes you need to run both in veg. You need more light in flower to support building buds. The more the better for the most part.

Which lights are you ordering? Its important you don't get the wrong one's. The market is very sketchy right now.

Check out the links in my signature for my former setup.


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Re: Led light question [Re: Jml417]
    #824730 - 03/14/17 11:59 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

This one?

Bad move. First its a knock off of Advanced LED, which might not be bad in its own but its way to jam packed with diodes. The canopy distance won't be right. The thing will probably bleach too much so you'll need to raise it up real high, but it won't have the area coverage. You'd be better off with 2 fixtures side by side with half the wattage so you can spread the light out a bit more.

What size area are you trying to grow in?


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Re: Led light question [Re: Jml417]
    #824734 - 03/15/17 12:13 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

There was a lot of generics out there using that design. It all comes down to having a company in the US handle the warranty and quality control from the factory.

Bleaching the buds white cause the light is too bright. The video they posted shows readings way too high. Its too much of a spot light. Spacing fixtures out and hanging them at the right height is crucial. The area coverage they give is only good for when you have a bunch of them and they overlap.



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Re: Led light question [Re: phychotron]
    #824736 - 03/15/17 12:20 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

https://platinumgrowlights.com/products/p600

that's essentially the same thing that I use. The area coverage they list is more like 4x2 not 5x2. 4x2.5 if you have multiple fixtures.

Compare how they combine the fixtures to make the 1200 and then just double the area coverage but the light is not much wider to compensate. the 90degree lens only goes out so far to the side and the lights just don't have the intensity at the edges like two smaller fixtures would.


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Re: Led light question [Re: phychotron]
    #824738 - 03/15/17 12:31 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

The premise behind LED growing is that you spread the diodes out as much as possible over the plants to evenly distribute the light.

Having a bunch of small fixtures tends to be a pain in the ass, for airflow, hanging, power cords, etc. So sizing up the fixtures that will work for you is important.

Remember you can only hang your lights so high, so when they buds are too tall and you can't go any further up with the lights your buds will suffer. Something with a dimming function on it can be nice too.


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Re: Led light question [Re: Jml417]
    #824741 - 03/15/17 01:08 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)



The spydr looks like a really good fixture. Its one of the few fixtures I'd buy if I wasn't building them now.


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Re: Led light question [Re: Jml417]
    #824760 - 03/15/17 10:13 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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Jml417 said:
https://fluence.science/store/spydr-series/spydrx-plus/
Now what idont understand the size of the LEDs... These are 600s?




The p600 is named for marketing. The company is more into hype than science. Like when they give you a single point PAR reading directly under the brightest part of the light but no readings anywhere else and then claiming to have the highest PAR value in the industry. That's BULLSHIT --see the video on their product page.

"3-watt" diodes multiplied by diode count do not equal the power draw. Those 200 3-watt diodes you'd expect to use 600 watts, like they're claiming but if you look its 345 watts. That makes their diodes really much less than 2watts each, which is around where they need to be. They use deception to sell you product.

The Spydr lists the true power draw (660w), which is much more appropriate. I've never used the spydr but they appear to have a really good design. The spread of the diodes alone says they're more concerned with the results of the light instead of just reselling you some Chinese fixture that suits the market trend.  Spydr was designed for professional applications, whereas the Platinum lights are more home consumer grade.

The spydr is probably much more efficient at putting out the light too, so that its not generating extra heat and should extend the life of the diodes. Just because two P600's use more power doesn't mean they will produce more light.


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Re: Led light question [Re: Jml417]
    #824781 - 03/15/17 06:10 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

The spydr looks like its a veg light and the spydr+ a flower light.  Looks like they've changed a few things recently. I'd email them if your serious about getting some. I haven't really done much LED research recently since I don't really need more lights and have been looking at building them more than buying a factory built fixture.


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Re: Led light question [Re: Jml417]
    #824795 - 03/15/17 09:49 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

video doesn't load.


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Re: Led light question [Re: Jml417]
    #824808 - 03/16/17 02:16 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

paste the url without the http://www. and I'll be able to watch it. Too many videos under that title to watch them all.


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Re: Led light question [Re: Jml417]
    #824826 - 03/16/17 12:38 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Ok so what about it? There's just a video without any real specs. Can you show me their website?

If they build the most bad ass LED in the world but you can't get hold of them for warranty stuff cause they're not a real company you might want to avoid them.

It looks like a bunch of quantum boards put together.


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Re: Led light question [Re: Jml417]
    #824958 - 03/21/17 11:17 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

The light needs some additional airflow to keep the temperature down but overall seems solid. When I got my XML650 I wanted one of those but they were $700 more. now they're about the same price. I'd buy one if I was going to purchase another grow light. My next grow light build will mimic that style.

Check out the current thread about the spydrx+ at ICMAG's LED forum.


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Re: Led light question [Re: TrueHerbCrystal] * 1
    #824970 - 03/22/17 11:32 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Anything on ebay will be a generic fixture. I tend to avoid them because of warranty issues. No company means no warranty, no concern if its got total garbage inside.


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Re: Led light question [Re: TrueHerbCrystal]
    #824984 - 03/23/17 02:26 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Usually no, they stock generic stuff or stuff that is usually sub par. I haven't seen a good LED in a hydro store yet.


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