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Re: General Science Thread [Re: Data]
    #818005 - 08/10/16 09:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

So people are saying that it's difficult or not cost effective to make ocean water drinkable, I was also told that reverse osmosis can remove everything thing from water including the minerals your body needs. What if you took everything out of sea water except the water and then dumped it into the ground to add the minerals you need and raise the water table?

I get random ass thoughts like this going through my head when i'm working but don't always remember them. If I do I will certainly bring them to this thread


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Re: General Science Thread [Re: Data]
    #818028 - 08/11/16 05:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I like your answers agmotes, you don't go out of your way to use big words, I generally understand what you're saying. But I wasn't talking about putting the salts and other minerals/metals back into the ground after the RO process, I meant dump the water into the ground so that it would pick up the minerals our bodies need. Would that have a negative effect on the ground water supply, plants or life in general?


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Re: General Science Thread [Re: Data]
    #818032 - 08/11/16 05:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The way you describe the surface ponds and evaporation, reminds me of something I learned in school.

There is a shitload of prickly pear cactus where I live. They are mostly water but there is something in it that dehydrates you. So if you are lost in the desert and need water, you dig a hole, skin some of the cactus and put it in the hole, with something to catch the water in the middle. Then you put plastic over it and put a rock in the center. The water evaporates out of the cacti, hits the tarp/plastic and slides down where the rock is weighing it down to fill the cup.


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Re: General Science Thread [Re: poor boy]
    #818060 - 08/12/16 05:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Hey agmotes, what do you think it will take for us to reach other planets in the "goldilocks zone" and possibly find other life, or just to explore beyond our front door.

I believe it will take the death of this planet before we allocate the time/resources to figure out how traverse space. This idea first came to me when I saw a bumper sticker about strip mining. I thought "maybe strip mining can be a good thing" For the human race anyways not the millions of other lifeforms here.

We spend time/resources and brain power researching thimgs that don't really progress the race of man just distract them or makes them feel pretty. Once this planet is irredeemable we won't be studying new cosmetics, or how to use advertisement to sell product, we would focus on the survival of the species.


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Re: General Science Thread [Re: Data]
    #818072 - 08/12/16 05:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

is most of the debri metal? maybe we could use magnets to pull the debri down at just the right angle so it burns up In the atmosphere. I saw that on an episode of eureka, what a great show. There is an EM barrier over the entire city and one of the scientist magnetized it not intending to pull metal out of orbit, then they had to figure out how to save everyone by burning up the space junk before it destroyed the west coast USA


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Re: General Science Thread [Re: poor boy]
    #818373 - 08/21/16 05:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

So I was thinking more about the space junk orbiting out planet, stuff in space is weightless right? Couldn't we send a drone and a large net up to the international space station, one of the Astronauts could use the drone to gather up the debris in the net and then send it flying into the sun (making sure it doesn't get close enough to venus/mercury to change the course it's on). I imagine a drone smaller than a person dragging a net/sack the size of a house. I realize this would take forever since the planet is huge.


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Re: General Science Thread [Re: Magash]
    #818393 - 08/21/16 03:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for the link, they say the debris travel at up to 17.5k mph but does not give an average speed, I wonder how many are actually going that fast. I had no idea how fast they were moving, I thought they were just kind of floating in orbit slowly going around the planet as it spins. That make the problem much worse than I had envisioned it.


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Re: General Science Thread [Re: Data]
    #818448 - 08/23/16 05:46 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

agmotes mentioned earlier that a lot of the debris isn't very magnetic, I asked if we could use magnets to pull the debris into the atmosphere at an angle that would burn it up before hitting the ground.
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Yea we could do that for part of the debris, but a lot of it is diamagnetic material, meaning that it doesn't react strongly to magnetic fields. It would also be very tricky to control and coordinate orbital maneuvers between either extremely distant magnets, or magnets on board another object in orbit. Even the slightest force between two objects can throw both of the object's orbits off.

I think current protocol for aging satellites is to initiate a controlled re-entry so that the satellite burns up in the atmosphere rather than float out there in orbit, loses contact with the control team, drifts out of orbit, and crashes into something else. That being said, there are several large satellites that have broken in orbit and are now adrift, some weighing as much as 18,000 lbs (Envisat)...which could generate some serious debris if they were to impact something else in orbit. :awesurprise:




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Re: General Science Thread [Re: Chemical Addiction]
    #818449 - 08/23/16 05:49 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

how often does this debris enter the atmosphere on its own? or does it stay in orbit? I was just wondering if some of the "shooting stars" people see aren't actually space junk burning up as it decends.


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Re: General Science Thread [Re: Data]
    #818468 - 08/23/16 08:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Damn you made a simulation just to answer the question? that's what I call a devotion to science/math.


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Re: General Science Thread [Re: Data]
    #820310 - 10/17/16 03:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

So I've been thinking about the space junk some more and if we can't use magnets, or drones to collect the debris could we physically deflect it with some sort of giant ramp like structure with basic maneuvering (up,down,left,right)?

Try and send it down at the correct angle to burn up the junk, or send it up to the edge of the of the gravitational pull of the planet to slow it down without sending it into space or hitting a satellite. Or finding a way to time the collision of the debri with the "ramp" and angle it properly to shoot it at the sun?


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Re: General Science Thread [Re: drawde]
    #820317 - 10/17/16 06:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:shrug: I figured if the deflector was moving the same way as the debris, just a little bit slower it could deflect the debris without being damaged


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Re: General Science Thread [Re: Chemical Addiction]
    #822526 - 01/09/17 06:36 PM (8 years, 13 days ago)

how to build your own tractor beam



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Re: General Science Thread [Re: Data]
    #822535 - 01/10/17 05:35 AM (8 years, 13 days ago)

I wonder if something like that would ever replace conveyor belts, instead of a table with a moving belt, you have a stationary table that you can float stuff over, just give it a little push and it slides down to the end. kind of like air hockey but it never touches the table so there is no friction allowing you to move the object much faster so long as you have a way to slow it down.


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Re: General Science Thread [Re: Chemical Addiction]
    #822536 - 01/10/17 05:42 AM (8 years, 13 days ago)

actually not a table a duct, so you could have the speakers on all sides and try to keep the object in the middle, the duct could even curve, maybe a new way of shipping.


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Re: General Science Thread [Re: TrueHerbCrystal]
    #822976 - 01/25/17 04:49 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

they already tired making one in the past, now we have aids....


on a more serious note, why would we mix a human and monkey? as technology advances we don't need more muscles we need long skinny fingers for precise work, suck as building/repairing electronics.


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Re: General Science Thread [Re: Data]
    #826990 - 07/03/17 05:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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And that doesn't even take into account the increasing problem of space garbage building up in orbit. If a major collision were to take place in orbit, it could spawn a runaway series of collisions that spread into other orbits, and forms a shell of small, high speed debris that would make launches into space impossible for at least a few hundred years. This is called Kessler Syndrome, and the more garbage that we leave in orbit, the greater the chances are of this occuring, setting us back centuries or even imprisoning us on a dying planet...





Hey data did you catch this article, I saw it when I was banned and then forgot about it. So apparently drawde and i's idea to use a drone wasn't too far off. Apparently they have already used this gecko tech to create climbing gear for certain surfaces! that would be pretty fucking cool to try, feel like spider man.


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Re: General Science Thread [Re: Data] * 1
    #827865 - 08/13/17 05:45 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Someone posted this link in the EG and I thought I would share incase one of you had not heard of it and was interested. www.sci-hub.io  unlocks research papers you would normally have to pay for or be attending a university. Also the research papers that are pdf can be downloaded.


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Re: General Science Thread [Re: poor boy]
    #843276 - 02/25/20 06:04 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

first person I thought of when reading this is agmotes165 or what ever the numbers were. Now he's married man data  https://cheezburger.com/10695429/dudes-do-the-math-on-if-a-fart-could-propel-someone-in-zero-g


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