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 Im a new Cannabis Grower! 
#814524 - 06/07/16 01:31 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hello dear people. I am a new grower and I wanted to say hello to all of you:)
This place seems nice. Here is a welcoming picture.
Cheers!
I Intend to do a CFL grow (250 W bulb) here and post pictures of my progress!
Are there any knowledgeable growers around for some questions:)
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#814526 - 06/07/16 02:51 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Welcome!
There are plenty of users who can offer very useful advice. I would suggest creating a new thread in the "Marijuana Cultivation" forum, which can be found by clicking on the "community" hyperlink at the top of this page (directly below the advertisement banner).
Make sure you search the forum first, as your questions may have already been answered.The search tool is located at the top of this page, to the right of your username/status.
If you can't find anything in your search, make sure you scan through the forum rules and suggested formats for information requests, which are the top 1 or 2 threads in each forum (identified with a push-pin symbol next to them).
Have fun man, growing is a fascinating adventure. 
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Data]
#814527 - 06/07/16 06:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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if your gonna risk it, then u might as well do it right!
If i were u id invest in a proper light for flowering.... you can get decent 600w hps lamps on ebay/amazon for cheap.
you will be happy you invested in the lamp come harvest time
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: P-O]
#814563 - 06/07/16 07:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Whatever happens, we wish you big sticky buds to enjoy.
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: 8787sunshine]
#814579 - 06/08/16 12:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Isnt it possible to use CFL RED spectrum bulbs for flowering as well?
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Fat_A]
#814580 - 06/08/16 02:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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just get a advanced led 100w
it has red blue ir and uv built in
the ir and uv is flammable so watch were you put it but it only uses like 200watts and you don't need to change lights or antyhing
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Mof]
#814581 - 06/08/16 02:59 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Mof]
#814582 - 06/08/16 03:14 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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a 400 watt light
dixie cups
dirt
don't get much simpler
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Magash]
#814585 - 06/08/16 06:12 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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a 400 watt light
dixie cups
dirt
don't get much simpler
Can I ask what you feed those puppies with?
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Fat_A]
#814594 - 06/08/16 06:44 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Bobabouy]
#814598 - 06/08/16 07:32 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Bobabouy said:
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a 400 watt light
dixie cups
dirt
don't get much simpler
Can I ask what you feed those puppies with?
Dbols and tren 
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Fat_A]
#814600 - 06/08/16 07:39 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
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Isnt it possible to use CFL RED spectrum bulbs for flowering as well?
You can really use any light that produces a reasonably full spectrum. The reason we all use certain lights is to get the maximum usable light for the plant, without producing a bunch of extra frequencies that the plants don't care about.
I have vegged and flowered under CFLs, with decent results, you dont necessarily need a paricular color CFL, but a lower color temperature (3000K or less) is probaby best for flowering.
HID bulbs (MH/HPS) are currently the best value and are time-tested performers on the grow scene.
LEDS will work, but you have to do your homework and be willing to dip into your wallet, as a lot of companies sell shitty LEDs, and good LED units can be expensive.
All other lighting options are either expensive or don't really live up to their claims.
It really depends on your needs as to what light is best for you. If you are doing a tiny grow with severe height restrictions and don't mind having functional but not-so-pretty buds, then CFL or a small LED panel may be best. For all other options, I would suggest some form of HID lighting.
But that's just my opinion, maybe you could give us a better idea of your grow room design, mainly how much cooling/ventilation you have and your room dimensions? I'm sure other more experienced growers could make a suggestion if you had this information.
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Bobabouy]
#814610 - 06/08/16 11:56 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
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a 400 watt light
dixie cups
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Can I ask what you feed those puppies with?
At the time I grew these I believe I was still using Fox Farms stuff.
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Magash]
#814640 - 06/08/16 08:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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whats up fat a?
good luck with your gwow !
i agree about what these guys say about a small investment, you will make it back within the fist run and then some !
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: dmtcorey]
#814643 - 06/08/16 11:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I am planning small grow 3 plants at the most and aa small tent so i dont want kilos of buds im doing this for fun mainly and for some friends at another forum so I am just planning to have a good time and learn from it, thats why I chose a small tent, 60 X 60 CM:s, 1.2 meters in square.
This is also why I chose the CFL, because wallet restraints and also simplicity.
For such a small grow I hope that the CFL will work? I plan to get 2 different ones, one for vegging and one for flowering. Red and blue.
Thanks for all the welcomes, makes me feel happy!
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Fat_A]
#814644 - 06/09/16 02:57 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you are referring to the red/blue cfl grow lights, where the light temperatures of each are red = 2700K and blue = 5000k+, then this will work.
If you are referring to these CFLs: 
Then you should rethink your decision. These are party bulbs, and their red/blue coating is filtering out all of the full-spectrum light being generated within the tube of the bulb. This results in a much hotter bulb. Additionally, the red/blue light that it does give off is not likely to be centered around the max absorption frequencies of plant chlorophyll, so even less of the light would be usable. IF you are looking for pure red/blue light that plants can use, then led would be your grow light of choice.
Just making sure we are all talking about the same thing here 
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Data]
#814659 - 06/09/16 08:15 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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the lights your planning to use will work fine and will give you some killer buds ,
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: dmtcorey]
#814662 - 06/09/16 08:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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lol
I would use something better then cfl's for flowering personally. Ive only ever used cfl's for clones or to supplement hps light
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: dmtcorey]
#814663 - 06/09/16 08:43 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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the lights your planning to use will work fine and will give you some killer buds ,
I am using a BIG CFL bulb, 250 w single lamp, these:
http://www.hydrogarden.se/ljus/lagenergi/
And as supplemental light a 150 W hanging light for foliage, so I am not going to use party lights or anything like that. Theyre called CFL grow lamps and are rather new and most people use your methods so this advice is sound, I am sorry i wasnt clearer.
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Fat_A]
#814664 - 06/09/16 08:49 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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those are some impressive cfl's.
I was thinkin u were usin those walmart cfl bulbs
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: P-O]
#814665 - 06/09/16 09:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh no just real growlights! Thanks for all the help and the advice I am listening full ear. I will post up more pictures as the grow takes shape. All in all, its been a good day. Thanks to all the growers for a fantastic welcome, Ill be sure to post some pics.
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Fat_A]
#814675 - 06/09/16 11:04 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yea man, a 250W cfl with an extra 150 light will be more than enough for a .36m2 grow area. The cfl bulb alone will get you to 45000 lux, which is within the range of direct sunlight.
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Data]
#814686 - 06/09/16 02:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yes my thoughts exactly, this is why I chose the CFL option, its cheaper and it delivers in a small area, I knew for a larger grow that it would be insufficient, but I am planning a smaller one. However I am getting the 80 X 80 CM grow tent instead, because I can always get more lights, so its a valid option for me as well. These CFL bulbs are a godsend because they have installed ballasts, which are otherwise vey expensive. Also easy to replace.
In the meantime, here is my work area, two 72 W cfl light installations, perfect for handling and nurturing cannabis plants. Also in my livingroom, my arts and crafts, yes sirs I paint:)
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Fat_A]
#814700 - 06/09/16 04:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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cool deal man, sounds like you've got a plan. 
Feel free to post your paintings, I've always loved art.
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Data]
#814703 - 06/09/16 05:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Fat_A]
#814704 - 06/09/16 06:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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That's neat, I like the color combinations. 
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Data]
#814711 - 06/09/16 08:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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thanks!
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Fat_A]
#814777 - 06/11/16 08:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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the lights your planning to use will work fine and will give you some killer buds ,
I am using a BIG CFL bulb, 250 w single lamp, these:
http://www.hydrogarden.se/ljus/lagenergi/
And as supplemental light a 150 W hanging light for foliage, so I am not going to use party lights or anything like that. Theyre called CFL grow lamps and are rather new and most people use your methods so this advice is sound, I am sorry i wasnt clearer.
oh ya i have seen thos bulbs ,you could even modify a cool tube if you end up with heat problems over the hot summer ,def dont want bugs from heat problems so watch out for temps over 30 running that bulb,i think the spectrum is of better quality compaired to a 250 w hps lamp!
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: dmtcorey]
#815211 - 06/18/16 03:50 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have a new question. For the CFL Bulb, will a regular hood do? I am thinking of getting this:
http://www.hydrogarden.se/ljus/lagenergi/lumii-lagenergi-kit-200w-bla-6500k.html
They also have this as an option:
http://www.hydrogarden.se/ljus/lagenergi/lagenergi-lyx-kit-250w-bla-6500k.html
Which one would be better?
Also if the first one is okay, Im getting that. Just tell me what you think?
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Fat_A]
#815267 - 06/18/16 06:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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the second hood looks like a better choice ,better foot print and the light wont be escaping out the sides ,
i would recommend a reflector with a cool tube personally ,it gives you more control over your garden as well the option to go with an open hood .
for an extra $50 it could save you from spending that or more fighting pest issues from heat problems as well loosing from your harvests imo
been through it all the hard way myself trying to cut corners here and there but ultimately i recommend following your heart!
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: dmtcorey]
#815371 - 06/20/16 01:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just ordered up my stuff.
A 60 BY 60 CM tent!
a lUXURY FUCKING LAMP, CFL and shit..250 Watts baby!!
Its just going to go on!
On and on on and on..
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Fat A representing!!..
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Fat_A]
#815372 - 06/20/16 01:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Make me proud son.
And dont forget rule 1 : tell nobody
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Fat_A]
#815373 - 06/20/16 01:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Also I havea question, is that a real mr rogers vid or is it fake, cant imagine the man doing them fuck u finge rbut if he did im to drunk to post but it bugs me that i dont knooloow...
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Fat_A]
#815374 - 06/20/16 01:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ill make u proud!
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Fat_A]
#815375 - 06/20/16 01:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Also I havea question, is that a real mr rogers vid or is it fake, cant imagine the man doing them fuck u finge rbut if he did im to drunk to post but it bugs me that i dont knooloow...
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: P-O]
#815443 - 06/21/16 02:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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thats so cool
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Fat_A]
#815582 - 06/22/16 10:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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My new setup is complete
250 W Growlight 6500 K
Secret Jardin tent
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Fat_A]
#815589 - 06/23/16 02:39 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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 nice dude!
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Data]
#815591 - 06/23/16 03:06 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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THANKS!. Now Im waiting for them to sprout!
Here are pics of my new home for my cannabis!
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Fat_A]
#815785 - 06/25/16 06:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nice Black Ops m8 
though getting the seed popped is the hardest now
some people use paper towels
I think it's the water
maybe try filling a bottle cap full of water and then put a tissue and a seed on top
put something on top to prevent it from losing humidity, after 8-16 hours
put it in the soil and make sure the soil is humid but it needs to be warm too
it should pop
I've never had to transfer personally
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#815788 - 06/25/16 07:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Remember when you compare cfl light to hid light you can't do like wattages. That means you don't compare a 250 cfl to a 250 hid cause there is no comparison. A 75 watt hid can put out the light of a 200 watt cfl light. People are dumb enough to think that cfl light is cooler when it's way hotter then hid light.
In order for cfl light to put out as many lumens as hid you have to have 10 times the wattage (actually more). So a 75 watt would be brighter and cooler then the 250w cfl and cost way way less to run.
If people knew what they were doing we would never even hear of cfl lights being used.
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Magash]
#815791 - 06/25/16 11:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well this is a downer. The stores all said its cheaper and cooler than a HID, but that wasnt the reason I bought it. Ive seen people use CFL lights HERE, small bulbs and many of them. It seems to work. I work on increasing the light if needed but for my growspace I was told it was enough by members here so I am sorry if I made some mistake but I couldnt afford a HID and the CFL seemed a good alternative. No one objected. Well, now I know I guess...
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Fat_A]
#815792 - 06/26/16 12:43 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah I hear ya it's one of the most common things people do. In order to get the amount of light a 250 watt hid light puts out you'd need near 3000 watts of cfls which would run way hotter. So next time measure the amount of light instead of the wattages cause different types of bulbs put out different amounts of light per watt.
A hid bulb for your space would most likely cost less then the cfl bulb for the same space and it's available at any Home Depot or lowes. (They carry the low wattage hid lights)
Remember when at a store they hire people off the street like any other business and very few hydro shop employees have any experience at all growing.
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Magash]
#815793 - 06/26/16 01:13 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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OK, I get it but this was already something I did know as it turns out. The stores said the CFL 250 W put out about 10 000 lumens, for a 60 X60 CM growtent that should according to another member here be enough for my needs. I will only grow 2-3 plants at the most and the light fixture barely fit into the tent. I was amazed by its size. Ive seen other growers use smaller CFL bulbs for 2 plants and that seems to work out, not that I needed to build a mock growroom inside a closet, it just seemed to me that the space I grew in was adapted for this rather large darn light.
So will 10 000 lumens be enough for a 60 X 60 Cm growspace? I can barely fit 2 11 liter Plant It Dit pots inside and the light covers the entire space and is actually darn bright, far brighter than I expected.
I could supplement it with a LED rack on the side, in fact 2 of them if need be.
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Magash]
#815796 - 06/26/16 06:01 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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In order for cfl light to put out as many lumens as hid you have to have 10 times the wattage (actually more). So a 75 watt would be brighter and cooler then the 250w cfl and cost way way less to run.
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In order to get the amount of light a 250 watt hid light puts out you'd need near 3000 watts of cfls which would run way hotter.
Could you provide a source for these statements or elaborate on your meaning? A 250W CFL grow light @2700K puts out ~1/3 the lumens of a 250W HPS, not 1/10th or lower.
It still correctly supports both you and I in our statements that CFLs are a poor comparison for HID grow light, but I've grown under an array of standard household CFLs by directly comparing the lumen output at a desired color temperature, and calculating the lux to fall within the required range for cannabis. This worked well for me. If what you are claiming is true, then I would have to have more than tripled what I calculated, which would have fried my plants and pushed my tent over 240,000 lux.
The reason I'm pushing this issue is that I've already looked at the product that he bought, and going off of color temperature and rated lumens, his lux calculation is good. We had also discussed how CFLs would work but were sub-par compared to HID, and he made the choice to buy anyway. I don't want him to get the impression that he bought 25W worth of lighting and get discouraged, because to the best of my knowledge and experience he still has a working growtent that will still grow bud (albeit at a lower electrical/thermal efficiency).
Maybe I'm wrong, in which case I am open to learning more about it and apologizing to this fellow for leading him astray on his grow project.
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Data]
#815800 - 06/26/16 07:42 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thank you dearly for that nice post agamote, that cleared up a lot of questions. I did notice that this huge damn lamp puts off a fair amount of heat and that my soil had turned to desert while I was away, I didnt think it would run that warm so I guess the part about heat wasnt an understatement, although I remember that the stores said the lamp puts off 10 000 lumens, I dont know if that makes sense but if I believe agamotes here which I really do, then my light gives off far more than that? Well Ill go to the manufacturers website and check. Anyways, thanks for the post, I had also noticed that some growers used 55 W bigbulb cfl:s for their growth and that seemed to work.
Thanks:) And It will be fun to watch this argument.
""You're going to want at least 3,000 to 5,000 lumens per square foot during the vegetative period.
4 x T5 HO 24 Watt tubes will give about 7,600 lumens (and use about 100 Watts), which is about 760 lumens/foot².
250 Watt compact will probably give around 19,000 lumens, which is about 1,900 lumens/square foot. "" - Hoisted from another grow forum..
I couldnt find anything from the manufacturers website but this may be a hint as to how powerful the light is. Anyways, this is interesting..
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Fat_A]
#815802 - 06/26/16 07:59 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Tell Mr Trump his Cannabis is on the way...Fat_A just called, we have sprouting, we have sprouting...may all the bitches dance
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Fat_A]
#815804 - 06/26/16 08:07 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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EnviroGro CFL Lamp 250 Watts Blue (Cool White)
The EnviroGro CFL Lamp 250 Watts Blue is an economical lamp for use in propagation or the veg stage. The lamp has low power consumption and the blue colour encourages lush, vegetative growth. Please note that the packaging now refers to these lamps as 'Cool White'. They are, however, exactly the same, with a 6400k spectrum.
EnviroGro – Well-known and trusted brand in plant lighting
CFL – Compact Fluorescent Lamp
Power consumption – only 250 Watts
Produces 14400 Lumens
Blue spectrum – ideal for propagation or veg stage
Colour temperature – 6400K
Built-in Ballast
E40 fitting – fits most reflectors except the Euro Reflector
Found the product. Thats not bad actually...barely fits in my tent..
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Fat_A]
#815806 - 06/26/16 08:55 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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put the seedlings closer to the light so they dont stretch
maybe put something under em to lift them closer
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: P-O]
#815840 - 06/26/16 10:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Maybe I'm wrong, in which case I am open to learning more about it and apologizing to this fellow for leading him astray on his grow project.
No no no no no your advise was sound and his system will work fine for his needs.
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his lux calculation is good. We had also discussed how CFLs would work but were sub-par compared to HID
I hadn't seen any of this and didn't realize you had told him about hid's and stuff. I didn't mean to hint that his system with the cfl didn't work I was just saying there are better ways but you seem to already be on top of it.
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Maybe I'm wrong, in which case I am open to learning more about it and apologizing to this fellow for leading him astray on his grow project.
Nah nah nah you're on top of it. Don't compare to regular HID lights remember to compare to the ones made for growing plants (I know you most likely already know that but something just makes me say it)
agmotes165 if I had known you already went over HID lights I'd have stayed out of it. 
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Magash]
#815842 - 06/27/16 01:11 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I just want to say that I think its wonderful to have had so many people coming in and helping me, including you magash. I knew why you mentioned the lights, you must have thought about regular cfls, because the other guys mentioned them. This light is massive, I cant believe it fit into my tent and its doing fine.
I have two sprouts now working towards their sun:)
thanks for all the help guys
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Fat_A]
#815848 - 06/27/16 03:50 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nah I'm familuar with your light I've been growing myself indoors since 1985 and outdoors even longer. People see those huge cfl lights and are immediately drawn to them. When they first came out about 10 or so years ago they were suppose to take the place of hid lights but didn't work out that way. They just don't have any penetration power. Use a light meter and measure the light drop off as you get away from the bulb or deeper into the plants. (See there I go again mentioning shit I'm sure you know in fact I know you know it so I'm shutting up on the cfl lights now  ) Then LED lights were suppose to take the place of HID lights. (and they will given time)
You're on top of it and your plants are gonna do fine.
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Magash]
#815850 - 06/27/16 05:39 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks for clearing that up for me Magash.
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