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 Magash
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 Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower!  [Re: Mof]
#814582 - 06/08/16 03:14 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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a 400 watt light
dixie cups
dirt
don't get much simpler
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Magash
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Bobabouy]
#814610 - 06/08/16 11:56 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Bobabouy said:
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Magash said:
a 400 watt light
dixie cups
dirt
don't get much simpler
Can I ask what you feed those puppies with?
At the time I grew these I believe I was still using Fox Farms stuff.
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Mof] 3
#815788 - 06/25/16 07:52 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Remember when you compare cfl light to hid light you can't do like wattages. That means you don't compare a 250 cfl to a 250 hid cause there is no comparison. A 75 watt hid can put out the light of a 200 watt cfl light. People are dumb enough to think that cfl light is cooler when it's way hotter then hid light.
In order for cfl light to put out as many lumens as hid you have to have 10 times the wattage (actually more). So a 75 watt would be brighter and cooler then the 250w cfl and cost way way less to run.
If people knew what they were doing we would never even hear of cfl lights being used.
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Fat_A]
#815792 - 06/26/16 12:43 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah I hear ya it's one of the most common things people do. In order to get the amount of light a 250 watt hid light puts out you'd need near 3000 watts of cfls which would run way hotter. So next time measure the amount of light instead of the wattages cause different types of bulbs put out different amounts of light per watt.
A hid bulb for your space would most likely cost less then the cfl bulb for the same space and it's available at any Home Depot or lowes. (They carry the low wattage hid lights)
Remember when at a store they hire people off the street like any other business and very few hydro shop employees have any experience at all growing.
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: P-O]
#815840 - 06/26/16 10:17 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Maybe I'm wrong, in which case I am open to learning more about it and apologizing to this fellow for leading him astray on his grow project.
No no no no no your advise was sound and his system will work fine for his needs.
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his lux calculation is good. We had also discussed how CFLs would work but were sub-par compared to HID
I hadn't seen any of this and didn't realize you had told him about hid's and stuff. I didn't mean to hint that his system with the cfl didn't work I was just saying there are better ways but you seem to already be on top of it.
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Maybe I'm wrong, in which case I am open to learning more about it and apologizing to this fellow for leading him astray on his grow project.
Nah nah nah you're on top of it. Don't compare to regular HID lights remember to compare to the ones made for growing plants (I know you most likely already know that but something just makes me say it)
agmotes165 if I had known you already went over HID lights I'd have stayed out of it. 
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Re: Im a new Cannabis Grower! [Re: Fat_A]
#815848 - 06/27/16 03:50 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nah I'm familuar with your light I've been growing myself indoors since 1985 and outdoors even longer. People see those huge cfl lights and are immediately drawn to them. When they first came out about 10 or so years ago they were suppose to take the place of hid lights but didn't work out that way. They just don't have any penetration power. Use a light meter and measure the light drop off as you get away from the bulb or deeper into the plants. (See there I go again mentioning shit I'm sure you know in fact I know you know it so I'm shutting up on the cfl lights now  ) Then LED lights were suppose to take the place of HID lights. (and they will given time)
You're on top of it and your plants are gonna do fine.
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