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 TrueHerbCrystal
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 Can essential oils be absorbed into buds during flowering? 
#807018 - 02/29/16 11:22 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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A little backstory then the question:
When i lived in Hawaii, there were all sorts of amazing smelling buds. One smelt like blueberry waffles. Not just blueberry, waffles with blueberry.
Another smelt like Guava, a local fruit that grows wild in Hawaii.
Then there was this gross one that came from the rainforest city side of the island called Hilo. It semlt like the rainforest of Hilo: mossy, dank (like a swamp) and smelt like wild ferns.
These experiences lead me to believe cannabis buds can absorb smells from the envirnoment, either thru their roots or directly thru the bud.
I have several ideas for essential oils to add to the roots during fruiting. One idea is adding lemon essential oil (diluted in water) to a cheese-strain to make a lemon cheesecake type bud.
Another is to add a sweet extract like vanilla maybe to Soul Diesel to make a sweet and sour combo smell.
Anyone done essential oil experiments? do they work?
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 Re: Can essential oils be absorbed into buds during flowering? [Re: TrueHerbCrystal] 1
#807021 - 03/01/16 01:28 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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There was a product called sweet that attempted to do what your saying but it doesn't work. Many people have tried it and also adding stuff to change the color and so on.
Give it a try you may be able to pull off something they couldn't.
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Re: Can essential oils be absorbed into buds during flowering? [Re: Magash]
#807052 - 03/01/16 03:05 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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it's probably the humidity of the air making the buds sticky, they'll pick up anything until they find their mater or whatever
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TrueHerbCrystal
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 Re: Can essential oils be absorbed into buds during flowering? [Re: Magash]
#822859 - 01/20/17 11:06 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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I got a new grow going, im definitely going to give it a try.
Maybe an orange oil extract or lemon oil
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Re: Can essential oils be absorbed into buds during flowering? [Re: TrueHerbCrystal]
#822864 - 01/20/17 01:43 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Only way I've seen it work is with concentrates. By isolating the terpenoids and flavonoids of say an orange or a grape. And then adding that to the product.
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Re: Can essential oils be absorbed into buds during flowering? [Re: Magash]
#822865 - 01/20/17 01:46 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Magash said:
There was a product called sweet that attempted to do what your saying but it doesn't work. Many people have tried it and also adding stuff to change the color and so on.
Give it a try you may be able to pull off something they couldn't.
If someone is using sweet to 'flavor' their bud their using wrong. My understanding it's used in flowering to bulk up the buds. Same way you would use molasses. The citrus and grape ones are designed for those types of plants. That said I use sweet raw with good results.
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TrueHerbCrystal
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Re: Can essential oils be absorbed into buds during flowering? [Re: Deadkndys420]
#822866 - 01/20/17 02:34 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Deadkndys420 said:
Only way I've seen it work is with concentrates. By isolating the terpenoids and flavonoids of say an orange or a grape. And then adding that to the product.
So wait, u extract an orange bud grow or a grape bud grow then add that concentrate back to a living plant?
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Re: Can essential oils be absorbed into buds during flowering? [Re: TrueHerbCrystal] 2
#822869 - 01/20/17 02:54 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Can essential oils be absorbed into buds during flowering? [Re: TrueHerbCrystal]
#822871 - 01/20/17 03:05 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
TrueHerbCrystal said:
Quote:
Deadkndys420 said:
Only way I've seen it work is with concentrates. By isolating the terpenoids and flavonoids of say an orange or a grape. And then adding that to the product.
So wait, u extract an orange bud grow or a grape bud grow then add that concentrate back to a living plant?
Lol no. You're extracting from an actual orange or grape etc. Then adding the extracted terpenes,flavonoids,terpenoids etc. to your concentrate.
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Re: Can essential oils be absorbed into buds during flowering? [Re: Deadkndys420] 1
#822872 - 01/20/17 03:58 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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So much bullshit in this thread.
Sweet by Botanicaire is used to bulk up flowers. You are providing simple carbohydrates in the form of sugar that help with growth.
Adding concentrated anything wont affect the flavor of your buds. This is bullshit.
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Re: Can essential oils be absorbed into buds during flowering? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#822873 - 01/20/17 05:13 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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If your referring to my comment hawk. I am reffering to Hash oil in any form when I say concentrates.
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Re: Can essential oils be absorbed into buds during flowering? [Re: Deadkndys420]
#822879 - 01/21/17 11:23 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Sorry, was meant for herbalcrystal.
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TrueHerbCrystal
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Re: Can essential oils be absorbed into buds during flowering? [Re: Deadkndys420]
#822883 - 01/21/17 01:55 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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OK i get it now.
Im going to try it.
If it doesnt work thru the roots, im going to try a humidifier with oils in. Hopefuly it doesnt promote mold growth on the bud.
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: Can essential oils be absorbed into buds during flowering? [Re: TrueHerbCrystal]
#822889 - 01/21/17 02:20 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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By all means try it. But make sure you're doing some side by side tests to make sure you have something to compare it to.
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TrueHerbCrystal
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Re: Can essential oils be absorbed into buds during flowering? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#822891 - 01/21/17 02:29 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Definitely.
I will have to try growing the same seeds one with oils the other with no oils.
Im surprizee this hasnt been tried before here...
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: Can essential oils be absorbed into buds during flowering? [Re: TrueHerbCrystal]
#822902 - 01/21/17 10:08 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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You'll want to do clones, not seed. You'll get different pheno types using seed
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TrueHerbCrystal
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Re: Can essential oils be absorbed into buds during flowering? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#822904 - 01/22/17 03:35 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Alright i will grow mother than clone.
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Re: Can essential oils be absorbed into buds during flowering? [Re: TrueHerbCrystal]
#822905 - 01/22/17 05:06 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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You could always just get these juicyjays flavor spray/drops to put on your bud before you smoke it. http://www.juicyjays.com/splash/?age-verified=875015932b
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TrueHerbCrystal
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Re: Can essential oils be absorbed into buds during flowering? [Re: Grit]
#822908 - 01/22/17 08:49 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yah but i feel like thats cheating. I want it inside the bud.
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Re: Can essential oils be absorbed into buds during flowering? [Re: TrueHerbCrystal]
#822910 - 01/22/17 01:21 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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the longer you grow them the more of a dank smell they get but even then you still need a couple weeks of curing at least
You can't just say one bud smells better than the other initially you just cant
All your oils and stuff would have to be edible by the fungus then that would have to be absorbed by the roots, something like flavor would not depend on what's in the soil
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Re: Can essential oils be absorbed into buds during flowering? [Re: TrueHerbCrystal] 2
#822912 - 01/22/17 01:58 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Generally speaking, the ability of a plant's roots to absorb organic molecules into the xylem for transport to other tissues is almost solely dependant on its hydrophobicity, where hydrophobic molecules typically do not make it into xylem fluids. Since nearly all essential oils are highly hydrophobic, it is reasonable to conclude that introducing them into the buds via the roots is not a feasible route (although some plants are better at doing this than others, and without knowing the lipid and protein content of cannabis xylem fluid, it is impossible to speculate on the relative ability of cannabis to transport hydrophobic molecules).
Additionally, most essential oils (especially citrus and eucalyptus oils) are potent fungicides, and may wreck the symbiotic fauna that plant roots rely on in soil and organic hydro systems.
Finally, as anecdotal evidence against the effectiveness of direct infusion of essential oils into buds/fruit/foliage of plants...I routinely spray rosemary and garlic oils to my outdoor veggies to discourage bugs and fungal infections, and have never once noticed any harvested fruits/seeds/foliage that had a smell/taste other than the expected smells and flavors of the veggie itself. My theory is that they aren't readily absorbed by plant tissues, don't readily diffuse into the solid waxy cuticle of most plant tissues, and don't hang out on the surface for very long due to their volatile nature. If you applied enough to force the desired effect, a concentrated solution usually causes burning of both plant tissue and human skin.
Sorry to sound pessimistic, I would love to see the results of your experiment prove my post wrong, and I encourage you to try it, at the very least, foliar application of most essential oils will not result in an increased chance of mold
Keep us posted!
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TrueHerbCrystal
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Re: Can essential oils be absorbed into buds during flowering? [Re: Data]
#822945 - 01/24/17 03:41 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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thanks for the interesting info.
If it doesnt work, i will try something else.
Im not super focused on making it work, but if it does, i would be pretty psyched.
When i get to the essential oil adding stage, i will let ya know how it goes
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