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Mr. Alien
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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#803939 - 01/23/16 10:09 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Tell me why mold would grow in my plants if I manually exchange the air of my room. I know what conditions mold grows. I also have a dehumidifier, you can control mold by watching the RH never go above 50%.
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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Mr. Alien]
#803940 - 01/23/16 10:22 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'll just quote this guy who answered a different question for me on the Shroomery.
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Ventilation is key to producing good buds and you want a high powered fan to change the whole room's volume in less than 5 minutes on a big carbon filter. Such fans are powerful (therefore really noisy) to exchange such volumes and pull through the carbon. So when you drywall the room put in sound insulation and in the ceiling too. Sound insulation looks like rockwool slabs. Hand saw cut with a carpenter saw. Build a door with an extra depth to take sound insulation. Run rubber strip on the door jamb so gaps are sealed to stop noise. You want no noise leak at all to be heard outside the grow from fans. Test by checking sound at 4 am when it is dead quiet outside!
If you opt to an NFT table (and you should as they rock) take advantage of the gaps between the channels. Go get some 10 inch PVC pipe and cut slits on one side, bung an end cap on one end and a fan to blow into the pipe on the other end. Place this under the table on a frame to blow air up through the crop. Add in corner fans too to blow air over the crop canopy.
I can't stress enough the importance of air movement and room exchange as critical to good bud. Too many grows have insufficient ambient movement and extraction. Poor airflow will result in mold all over your buds in the last 2-3 weeks as they go into calyx swell. Avoid by having big airflow.
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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#803941 - 01/23/16 10:59 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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It says poor airflow will result in mold, which means like air circulation inside the tent. The air circulation will be fine inside the tent. Room air exchange will be done manually. Besides, I will keep the door open most of the time and the air conditioner will point directly to the room where the grow tent is.
This is what a Trusted cultivator in shroomery told me and he also grows weed not just mushrooms.
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The guys on growery say that I can't have like a tent inside a room with air conditioner. That i need to exchange stale air for new air too, like with mushrooms. So that I need an inlet fan in the room. Ok, I can't make an inlet fan hole in the room, it just looks more suspicious and I have little nephews coming to my room and playing xbox and shit, girls comes too and friends.
So, I have this room that is in my Bedroom. Is empty.
Air conditioner pointing right in front of the empty room
the room
My bedroom is really big and has big windows
Can I just put the growing tent in that room with the door open and the air conditioner pointing at the room? Then for air exchange i just open the windows a few time per day and turn on the ceiling fans. Then if i just have a visit a little nephew or something i just close the door of the room until he's gone.
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Can I just put the growing tent in that room with the door open and the air conditioner pointing at the room?
for sure
I put a tent in a room with one window with a/c in the window.. as long as the temps are effected by the a/c you can put it where ever you want
the air exchange thing is easily handled by opening the door to the room every so often..
thats how I grew for the 1st 2 years with soil buckets
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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Mr. Alien]
#803947 - 01/23/16 01:46 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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You can get by with less ventilation if you have a small tent in a room that are left open, sure, but its no where near ideal. You want fresh carbon dioxide pumping into the room the plants are in. Plus the humidity spikes when you exhaust into your input.
Using a room as a lung can be tricky. It might work now that its winter, but come summer you'll probably have to rearrange some stuff.
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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: phychotron]
#803954 - 01/23/16 03:07 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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phychotron said: You want fresh carbon dioxide pumping into the room the plants are in.
What do you mean by that? Like having a c02 tank? Or you mean the fresh air coming from the exterior that is full with c02.
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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Mr. Alien]
#803989 - 01/23/16 06:48 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Fresh air contains more CO2 than air that the plants have used.
Plants are mostly carbon, they get it from the air, not through the roots.
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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: phychotron]
#804028 - 01/23/16 08:49 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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If i want to put a Inlet fan on the roof, how i would do it? With all the rain and humidity that could enter the room from there? Also it will need a filter for all the dust and shit that may enter to the room.
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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Mr. Alien]
#804032 - 01/23/16 09:10 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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How did you go from thinking that putting a hole in your ceiling was a bad idea to wanting to cut all the way to the roof?
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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: phychotron]
#804033 - 01/23/16 09:14 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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phychotron said: Fresh air contains more CO2 than air that the plants have used.
Plants are mostly carbon, they get it from the air, not through the roots.
Oh wait, if spend c02 is the problem and that i will need fresh new air so new c02 comes in. Why not using a c02 tank or c02 generator so I can make a Sealed room design? I?m just reading about sealed room designs and they use c02 tanks.
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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#804034 - 01/23/16 09:15 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Kush_Zombie said: How did you go from thinking that putting a hole in your ceiling was a bad idea to wanting to cut all the way to the roof?
Because is the only way. And i'm just reading that i can have a sealed grow room design with c02 generators.
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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Mr. Alien]
#804035 - 01/23/16 09:28 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah dudes, i think c02 tank in a sealed room is the solution.
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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Mr. Alien]
#804036 - 01/23/16 09:43 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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You'll need to control the humidity and temperature in a sealed room. Even with LED a sealed room will heat up.
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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: phychotron]
#804037 - 01/23/16 09:48 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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phychotron said: You'll need to control the humidity and temperature in a sealed room. Even with LED a sealed room will heat up.
I have a dehumidifier that i don't use, I can put a Mini split AC Inside that room too.
I will need a c02 tank, c02 regulator, c02 controller or timer , A/C. And all the tent kid and stuff.
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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Mr. Alien]
#804039 - 01/23/16 10:04 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#804140 - 01/24/16 01:11 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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What does that mean? lol.
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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Mr. Alien]
#804157 - 01/24/16 04:22 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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idk I guess just let me know how it goes lol
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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#804163 - 01/24/16 06:41 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm just reading that having 1200 ppm of c02 in the room you don't even need air conditioner because with that level of c02 the plants hold high temp better. And i will have Led lighting so..
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