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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #803721 - 01/21/16 10:28 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

No.

Okay check it out



LIGHT -> (DUCT HOSE1) -> [CARBON FILTER] -> INLINE FAN -> (DUCT HOSE2) ->

You have DUCT HOSE1 to give you a little distance from your LIGHT and the CARBON FILTER. you don't want the CARBON FILTER touching* the LIGHT.
The INLINE FAN (which is in your tent) will connect to DUCT HOSE2.
DUCT HOSE2 is going to be long enough to stretch out of a hole in your tent up into a hole in the ceiling of your room. The air will run from the LIGHT, into DUCT HOSE1, into the CARBON FILTER to filter out the smell, into the INLINE FAN, and then through DUCT HOSE2 into the ceiling of your room. It will go into that attic space and that air will be disposed of.

Meanwhile, you will have another fan (just a regular good fan, not an  inline fan) blowing air from your room into the tent.


EDIT: You do want DUCT HOSE1 close to your light, you just don't want it touching the light.

Edited by Kush_Zombie (01/21/16 10:29 AM)

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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Scribbler]
    #803725 - 01/21/16 10:36 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

And just so we're clear, DUCT HOSE1 connects to the LIGHT like this


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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Scribbler]
    #803726 - 01/21/16 10:47 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Kush_Zombie said:
And just so we're clear, DUCT HOSE1 connects to the LIGHT like this






That's why i want LED lighting, i don't like octopuses in my grow tent. You don't need to have all that hoses inside the tent from what I understand.


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I have no idea. If they do that would be a good option but you might have to make 2 holes in the wall then  :willynilly:




I think they do Air exchange. But it will be enough?

"Dual Hose Air Conditioning Units
Dual Hose Portable Air Conditioner
The other type of portable air conditioning unit is the dual hose unit. This model has a couple of intakes and one outtake hose. Through the intake, air is drawn into the unit where it is cooled and then sent back into the area. The machine heats up through the process and an intake hose pulls air from outside the home to cool the air conditioner down.
A second hose sends all of the warmed air outside of the home. With this efficient exchange of air, the dual hose system doesn’t have to work nearly as hard as the single hose option.
For larger spaces, the dual hose A/C unit is a better choice.
The dual hose machine eliminates the negative air pressure problem, but also costs a bit more.
This air conditioner operates more quickly than the other and also requires more electricity.
Compare BTU and EER ratings, as well as manufacturing quality to determine which of the models are most appropriate for your setting."
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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #803745 - 01/21/16 11:46 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

So this is the room i have





I have mushroom growing stuff inside that room but don't pay attention to that. So that wall (the wall to the left of the door in the first pic with the electric plug) is the only wall available to make holes. The walls inside the room are neighbors walls.

Is a 4.5x9 FT with 8.5FT of height. Very strong room, concrete walls.

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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #803749 - 01/21/16 11:55 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

That is a SAB (still air box) not a glovebox. Glovebox are not the right tool for mycology really.  The room now look like this, That SAB is no longer there, i have a laminar flow hood now in that room. But if i grow weed that for me is more important, i will change the hood to another room.


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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #803750 - 01/21/16 11:56 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Is that thing in plastic a fruiting chamber?




Lol yeah, now it looks like this in another room

This is another room I have, I have 2 rooms in total for my myco stuff. But for me, Growing weed has become a necessity. So I'm willing to pause the mycowork to grow weed.


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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #803759 - 01/21/16 12:11 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

I still use my SAB. My hood is not working properly anyway i have to change the filter, I had an accident in the hood room, I forgot dry grain in a mason jar and went on vacations for 2 months, when i got back i had bugs shitting yellow excrement in all the surfaces of the room including the inside hood.

This is a post i made on shroomery asking for help but my hood is fucked anyway, my success rate is 70% when it should be 99%.

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I accidentally leave inside my clean room a open bottle of dry grains. Went to visit Canada, 2 months later came back home and found literally yellow shit of bugs, and the jar with grains was Ewww you don't even want to see it or smell it..

Corps of death bugs everywhere and yellow shit on all the surfaces and tables of the clean room. The yellow shit looks like dust, I'm afraid to have that yellow shit dust inside my flowhood. I'm pretty sure there is that shit inside my hood. (Inside i mean, on the laminar sheets of the hood)

What can i do? I already started to clean all the room again, but the flowhood? Help.

This is the shit i have in my not anymore cleaned room



Did i fucked my hood?



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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #803769 - 01/21/16 01:03 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Can you explain?

And you run the bottom humidifier for FAE and the top humidifier for humidity? At the same time?


I was planning on just doing open container with a horse poo substrate. Leaving the lid closed while it colonized and just opening it when they were ready to fruit. That is how you do it right?




You don't need a martha. In fact, don't do that. To complicated and won't outperform a monotub. If you want to grow cubensis just make a monotub or do Open Air fruiting. Marthas are more for exotic and edible species like Shiitake.

Monotub: You mix your spawn (colonized grain) with your pasteurized horse manure bulk substrate. A common bulk substrate is 20% vermiculite, 5% Gypsum and 75% horse manure. Then you mix your Spawn with your pastuerized horse manure in a container, close the lid of the container until it reaches to full colonization. The container, in this case is a monotub, the holes of the monotub are taped while it is colonizing. Once it reaches full colonization, you Untape the holes and stuff polyfill and just let it fruit.

Open air Fruiting: Mix your spawn with your pasteurized bulk substrate in an aluminium tray or whatever, cover with foil while it colonizes, poke some holes for Gas Exchange. Once it reaches to full colonization, take the foil out and apply a Casing layer. Open air fruiting is posibble because the casing layer, without the casing layer is not reliable. You just have to take care that the casing layer won't dry and mist it regularly. There's no need for a fruiting chamber, everyone is like... FRUITING CHAMBERS MUST HAVE 99% air humidity. That's not true, the humidity that matters is the surface humidity where the casing layer is. The surface is where the mushrooms pop out, you don't need environmental humidity really, just surface humidity and FAE. And well Open air have infinite FAE lol. 



These were fruited in open air. Is the third flush. So as long as the casing layer is nice and wet you will have 99.99999999999999% humidity at the surface level where it matters.

A monotub don't need a casing layer but because inside the monotub there is 99% of humidity so the surface won't dry as fast like in open air. For open air Casings are necessary.

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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #803772 - 01/21/16 01:11 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Mr. Alien said:
Quote:

Can you explain?

And you run the bottom humidifier for FAE and the top humidifier for humidity? At the same time?


I was planning on just doing open container with a horse poo substrate. Leaving the lid closed while it colonized and just opening it when they were ready to fruit. That is how you do it right?




You don't need a martha. In fact, don't do that. To complicated and won't outperform a monotub. If you want to grow cubensis just make a monotub or do Open Air fruiting. Marthas are more for exotic and edible species like Shiitake.

Monotub: You mix your spawn (colonized grain) with your pasteurized horse manure bulk substrate. A common bulk substrate is 20% vermiculite, 5% Gypsum and 75% horse manure. Then you mix your Spawn with your pastuerized horse manure in a container, close the lid of the container until it reaches to full colonization. The container, in this case is a monotub, the holes of the monotub are taped while it is colonizing. Once it reaches full colonization, you Untape the holes and stuff polyfill and just let it fruit.

Open air Fruiting: Mix your spawn with your pasteurized bulk substrate in an aluminium tray or whatever, cover with foil while it colonizes, poke some holes for Gas Exchange. Once it reaches to full colonization, take the foil out and apply a Casing layer. Open air fruiting is posibble because the casing layer, without the casing layer is not reliable. You just have to take care that the casing layer won't dry and mist it regularly. There's no need for a fruiting chamber, everyone is like... FRUITING CHAMBERS MUST HAVE 99% air humidity. That's not true, the humidity that matters is the surface humidity where the casing layer is. The surface is where the mushrooms pop out, you don't need environmental humidity really, just surface humidity and FAE. And well Open air have infinite FAE lol. 



These were fruited in open air. Is the third flush. So as long as the casing layer is nice and wet you will have 99.99999999999999% humidity at the surface level where it matters.

A monotub don't need a casing layer but because inside the monotub there is 99% of humidity so the surface won't dry as fast like in open air. For open air Casings are necessary.



Nice, thanks. So do you need to mist a monotub or anything? I'm assuming you have to fan it?

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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #803798 - 01/21/16 05:48 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

So, I spoke with the supercloset.com guy and he told the same, that I would need a 8" inlet fan for the room and an air conditioner and the tent inside.

But that inlet fan I don't think it has to be 24 hrs on. And I have another room, same size, same just a door no windows, but I have an Air conditioner pointing directly to that room if the door is open.  And that room is in my bedroom, if someone is coming like my nephews or etc, I just close it and the plants will have a little of stale air for a while, but that's ok right? If i grow in that room I literally will just have to leave the door open. MY bedroom along with the room is like 80 square feet. MY Bed room have big windows, i think there will be a lot of fresh air exchange happening there. And the air conditioner is pointing directly to that room.

This is the other room



Air conditioner pointing right in front



Second room





And I'm just thinking in just buying one of these grow cabinets http://supercloset.com/product/grow-boxes/superflower-led-grow-cabinet/ and put it in my bedroom, they don't look like if I'm growing plants like a growing tent looks. I can't put it my bedroom, If the temperature is fine for me is fine for the plants too. Big windows in my bedroom, i can just open them 1 a day and turn on fans.

I really just need weed for my consumption.

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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #803813 - 01/21/16 07:30 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

The LED "heat" myth...



Its not just "More heat" from an HPS, its radiant infra-red heat being projected on every surface of your plants, walls and equipment. The plant then needs to be in a much cooler environment(temps in the 70's) so that the plant tissue can sit at an optimal temperature (like at the equator, temps in the 80's). The temperature differential drives the plants to cool off. The "light/heat" has to hit your equipment and plants before the energy it projected can be dissipated and exhausted. Some people use more energy to

With LED you just suck off the excess heat off the top, cutting out a lot of useless energy transfer on the plant surface. They're more gentler on the plants that way, and I believe that is why people are seeing a 1-3% increase in THC and a more developed terpene profile.


For a 4x4 area I'd recommend the XML650... 650watts equivalent to a 1000wHPS.


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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #803867 - 01/22/16 01:00 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Kush_Zombie said:


First off, there are plenty of HPS lights that give off a blue spectrum as well, such as the one I linked earlier in the post..

They get a 1-3% increase in THC? WHOA there buddy, that's INSANE!  :ilold:
link pls?
And that's about where I stopped reading
:tldr:






This is a THERMAL image of two closed tents, nothing about having more blue light in the LED.

Here's a video of the lab results from a side by side. Others have noted it in the past and this guy put a video together, you can follow the entire grow log if you want.


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Re: Lind k5 xl1000 vs DS XTE 400 from Advanced Led Lights. [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #803941 - 01/23/16 10:59 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

It says poor airflow will result in mold, which means like air circulation inside the tent. The air circulation will be fine inside the tent. Room air exchange will be done manually. Besides, I will keep the door open most of the time and the air conditioner will point directly to the room where the grow tent is.

This is what a Trusted cultivator in shroomery told me and he also grows weed not just mushrooms.

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The guys on growery say that I can't have like a tent inside a room with air conditioner. That i need to exchange stale air for new air too, like with mushrooms. So that I need an inlet fan in the room. Ok, I can't make an inlet fan hole in the room, it just looks more suspicious and I have little nephews coming to my room and playing xbox and shit, girls comes too and friends.

So, I have this room that is in my Bedroom. Is empty.



Air conditioner pointing right in front of the empty room



the room





My bedroom is really big and has big windows



Can I just put the growing tent in that room with the door open and the air conditioner pointing at the room? Then for air exchange i just open the windows a few time per day and turn on the ceiling fans. Then if i just have a visit a little nephew or something i just close the door of the room until he's gone.




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Can I just put the growing tent in that room with the door open and the air conditioner pointing at the room?



for sure :yesnod:

I put a tent in a room with one window with a/c in the window..  as long as the temps are effected by the a/c you can put it where ever you want :smirk:

the air exchange thing is easily handled by opening the door to the room every so often.. 

thats how I grew for the 1st 2 years with soil buckets :leaf:





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