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drip system - 250w veg - 400 w / 600 w flowering
    #800821 - 12/09/15 01:28 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Hello everyone,
Im a newbie here:) second post... (I was in shrooomery before.) This is the cv.:smile: Hope I post in the right forum sorry if Im not...

This is the setup, its a long story I tried to summarize and may be from the pictures you can help me correct the problem with my seedlings.(or may be I will toss them for a new start:()



They are in their fourth week.I transfered them to hydroton like one and a half week ago. I gave them some canna rhizotonic and supervit. The rockwools were a bit wet by the time I transfered them, roots couldnt breath properly. At first drips were streaming 24/7 but with valuable info from Magash thanks a lot to him btw.:smile: I switched to 30/30 streaming to give some chance to roots. I also added 1/4 flora trio combination at first (in the beginnig of the third week) and then after 4-5 days I added 1/4 more.250 watt MH... exhaust fan taking air out of the cabin and out of the room through cooltube. The humidity was low like %30 in the room so I run an humidifier to make it %50-%70. Ph is 5,5-6,5 Temp is getting higher till 27 when light is on.

Here they are what do you think :smile: Btw looking at the pics I feel good but they dont look as healthy and green in the real life. :smile: I wonder if they will get better with time or should I start again from the beginning to save time, money, yield. Thanks from now, love to all cannafellas:))




this white widow has a brown spot on it I searched the web; fungi/deficiency or what?:confused:





this is the other superskunk





this superskunk fell down with the water drip watering on it and I fixed it with a plastic fork. There are some yellowing and curling down on the end of the older leaves.




Edited by stara (02/15/16 05:53 AM)

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Re: drip system - seedlings - deficiency question [Re: Stoneth]
    #800826 - 12/09/15 03:15 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Hey :smile:
ph: I make 5,5 at night and then it climbs up to 6,3 till morning, then again I correct it.(canna ph down and up)
ec:I will buy one ec meter... but for now I added 1/4 flora trio and after 5 days I added extra 1/4 (this was 4 days ago).
For the first week I watered (stream) 24/7 and then I corrected it by changing to 30min on 30min off. The hydroclays look dry a bit but I cant see whats happening inside:( The house is a dry house btw. because of heaters and the fan gets the whole humidity of the cabin though I run an humidifier. I think I will add one humidifier outside the tent to balance. (its a passive intake system)

any input I appriciate...thanks

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Re: drip system - seedlings - deficiency question [Re: Stoneth]
    #800932 - 12/10/15 11:35 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Stoneth said:
You can most likely cut your watering back to 30 minutes on, one to two hours off.  And there isn't much need for water during the dark period.




Now I cut it to 30min. on and one hour off to be safe.  Im not sure if the clays will stay moist the house is already a dry house. For this reason it can go with the same during the dark 6 hour period if its not a big deal?And at flowering period do you water 24/7?

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What size, and kind of  light are you running?  And how far above the plant is it?




250W Metal halide inside the cooltube and its 60cm far above the plants should I move it closer to give more lumen?Im carefull a bit cause their young.

The lower leaves are going bad is it normal; the new leaves look healthy actually. I read that giving a good start is a sign of good future but is it always the case?

Thanks a lot! :wink:

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Re: drip system - seedlings - deficiency question [Re: Stoneth]
    #801169 - 12/13/15 01:00 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

thanks again... I will make updates :smile:

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Re: drip system - seedlings - deficiency question [Re: stara]
    #801633 - 12/17/15 02:30 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Hello,

Ive got some updated pics do you think the plants have nutrient (nitrogen?) deficiency? Because the old - first and second - leaves are getting yellow and curly drying and the tips of some leaves are a bit light green; I will measure ppm tommorrow but I wanted to ask beforehand. I added a bit less nutrient solution to be safe (1/4 flora trio) as I dont have a ppm meter yet.They are in their fifth week.

Thank you! And have a nice day and night:)

white widow:






superskunk







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Re: drip system - seedlings - deficiency question [Re: stara]
    #801813 - 12/19/15 05:46 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Hello,

I have a HM tds/ec meter now NaCl(0,5avg).
http://www.tdsmeter.com/products/com80.html

The resevoir is filled with nutrient water (2 weeks and I havent changed anything yet) Its a drip system.

Ec:1,7
ppm: 845
PH range (5,4-6,2)

Now should I change the whole water in the reservoir? (do bad materials exist in the water in this early stage? And do these bad materials increase ppm? The plants look like they have nutirent deficiency but this measurements dont look like weak right...)

What ppm would you advice for the new water if I change the whole water? (I use flora trio and canna rhizotonic(though this has less nutirents I think))

Or would it be ok if I only add extra nutirents to the reservoir without changing the whole water in it...in this stage?



Thanks for input...

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Re: drip system - seedlings - deficiency question [Re: Magash]
    #801867 - 12/20/15 05:15 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

great I did it... lets see what happens thanks :smile:

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Re: drip system - seedlings - deficiency question [Re: stara]
    #802130 - 12/24/15 11:31 AM (9 years, 28 days ago)

Hi again,

With the Ph around 6 and 1,2 EC, its been 4 days now and I saw some burning signs on the lower leaves tips.(Actually I was wondering when I was adding nutrients I had to add the amount the manufacturer adviced - flora trio- and I felt a bit nervous because it's always said to add the half they advice, however, with the half dosage EC wouldnt have been 1.2 so I went on to see what happens)

After the burning signs yesterday I diluted the reservoir to EC 1 and poured 5,8 ph water on the pebbles to wash away some excess nutrients. Today again the EC was 1,1 and I repeated the process adding ph water again now the EC is 1 again.

I have several questions:

1)Did I do a right think by washing and diluting or is it normal for the plant to have this kind of burning at first?
2)Do my plants lack roots and is this the reason they couldnt handle the EC 1.2?
3)Is it possible that my HM digital ec meter showing wrong EC?:smile:
4)Do my plants still look good:)? Should I do anything else. (more diluting?or leaving them alone to adapt?)
5)Is it better to produce roots first in the rockwool; and then feeding them in the reservoir because my other experiment rockwool plants roots are looking good and that made me think of this idea? And I saw some videos like this. :smile:

Pics are below:

Thanks again I appreciate! It was a good exprience I hope it will last:))


















This is the rockwool I saved to see what happens and the roots look cool. Is it worth to wait for the roots to get like this before transferring to reservoir system? I gave the rockwool rhizotonic water from the bottom.




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Re: drip system - seedlings - deficiency question [Re: Stoneth]
    #802178 - 12/25/15 12:16 PM (9 years, 27 days ago)

thanks!:smile: when do you think I should top them? There is one five star set leaves now.

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Re: drip system - seedlings - deficiency question [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #802293 - 12/28/15 02:06 PM (9 years, 24 days ago)

I dont trust everything I do now:) so I decided to wait for one more 5star set to get the plant more strong before I top :smile: because the lower leaves are a bit burning... hope it will stop.

I m planning to top from the place shown here do you think its a good way?
And do you top with scissors or fingers?
http://www.growweedeasy.com/topping-fiming

thanks for feedback learning makes me feel good:)

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Re: drip system - seedlings - deficiency question [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #802362 - 12/29/15 01:24 PM (9 years, 23 days ago)

They say: Cervantes says topping in the dark period is better but I topped them at the third hour of the day; I pinched them cause I didnt have any razor blade left.. we will see the results...:smile:

thanks for the feedbacks... I will make updates...

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Re: drip system - seedlings - deficiency question [Re: Magash]
    #802585 - 01/03/16 03:40 AM (9 years, 19 days ago)

Thanks:)
Now they look like this. I changed the reservoir yesterday after 10 days. Dropped the EC from 1 to 0,7 as some lower leaves have burnt a bit (its been 7 weeks from seed till now) I feel like in place of burnt leaves the plant try to burst new leaves in the lower part. These side nodes will be trained too, right? I mean under the scrog? Or should I remove them to make the plant focus on the part which is topped? Here in this guide they remove the lower leaves leaving one healthy leaf for photosynthesis:
http://www.growweedeasy.com/manifold

I think I should wait till the new nodes where I topped the plant will grow a bit and then bend them and top them again right? To have more colas to use under the scrog? Would you have other advices? And is the place where I topped  the place I will put the net right on it ? Because from there on I will go horizontally. (I hope so:))

Thanks again:)










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Re: drip system - seedlings - deficiency question [Re: Magash]
    #803411 - 01/17/16 11:00 AM (9 years, 4 days ago)

Hello again:)

I improved the circular drips; now the drips are feeding circular from 6 different holes for one.The previous system had some problems and I thought before having salt built up I would rather solve the problem. I dropped the ec to 0,5. (I think with 250 MH the plants only can use this amount of nutrients, is it correct if I say more light means more nutirent consumption - assuming one has the same healthy roots? For getting the sense)

I took some more pictures, it's the end of the 9th week.

This is the view before scrog.











And this is the view after mounting the scrog. Before tucking.







After tucking:





What do you think, any recommendations?
One of the plants is not very fast so may be I should remove it completely to save space for the aggressive ones right?
And what about the lower side branches under the net. Should I clean them with time or all at once?
Aaaaand as for the lower leaves, I should cut the ones without cola and with scissors right?If yes.

Thanks for any feedbacks... :thanx:

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Re: drip system - seedlings - deficiency question [Re: phychotron]
    #803482 - 01/18/16 03:35 AM (9 years, 4 days ago)

thanks a lot for feedbacks, I hope Ill get the sense without screwing to much:)

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Re: drip system - seedlings - deficiency question [Re: stara]
    #804135 - 01/24/16 12:37 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Hello again,

10th week ended. And I tucked the ladies a bit. I broke one of the branches and taped the place where it broke... After that now Im a bit more careful :frown: I removed the slow weak plant behind left and I try to fill its space with the other branches.

I dont know what to do with the cola in the back of the tent which is strecting. Sometimes I think everything is directing to the sides of the canopy so I start to get nervous for the center. :smile: Do you bend the branches forward and then back or u shapes?

And my second question is: should I switch to 12-12 or should I wait for the sides to fill? These are white widow and superskunk. May be some advices?

Thanks for any feedback! Have fun...




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Re: drip system - seedlings - deficiency question [Re: Magash]
    #804247 - 01/25/16 11:58 AM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Magash said:
If your space is getting filled then cut the lights back. The plants are gonna stretch during flowering for the first 2 to 4 weeks or so.





If I cut the lights back they strecth right, is it to make them strech and tuck them faster?

Thanks!

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Re: drip system - seedlings - deficiency question [Re: stara]
    #805231 - 02/03/16 02:30 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Hello again,

Now its the end of the 12th week. I switched to flowering 4 days ago.

PH 5,8 - 6,1. EC 0,6. (the same as veg. stage but I use flora trio and changing smoothly to blooming percentages (chart of GH) Dropped the humidity to %45. It can go to %30 without humidifier so Im gonna drop it slowly. Temps are 20-21 C night and 25-28 day.  Veg light was 250 watt MH, now I switched to 400 watt dual spectrum for flowering. Philips here:

http://www.hydroponics.eu/grow-lamp-sont-plus-400w-philips-bloom~1441.html

I added a bit H2O2 for algae 40 ml %3 with the rez change.And after that 10 ml everyday  to clean the algae and stuff.(its been 4 days and the roots look to grow faster; may be a coincidence I dont know)

Im adding weekly canna rhizotonic in small doses.

I also started to add sensizym 4 days ago.

I change the rez weekly...

My questions:

- Should I use 600 watt HPS for the last stages of flowering to boost the ladies. May be a special lamp only for blooming? (not dual)

- Would it be a mistake to cut the H2O2 after this week to let some beneficial organisms appear again or spread. Is sensizym effected by H2O2 btw?

- The on/off buton of the humidifier has a very tiny weak blue light.:smile: Do you think it will shock the plants while the lights off?

- After this week Im planning to add canna boost and at one point canna pk. Do you think it will work with flora trio? Actually I bought a bottle of Big Bud two months ago(advanced nutrients) but I made a research and now I changed my mind to pay for canna boost and see what happens. Please correct me if Im bullshiting. :smile:

Thanks for any feedback, I hope I will finish healthy...:smile:

This is the final pic:


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Re: drip system - seedlings - deficiency question [Re: Magash]
    #805333 - 02/05/16 03:28 AM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks for feedbacks:)

I cut the H2O2 and humidifier.

Ill get canna boost and a 600 watt bulb that I can find with the best lumens and red sprectrum for the final phases. (MB ferts looks great if its really the same ...unfortunately its not suitable for me geographically...)

I already burned my money so what can I do other than putting the shit inside the rez. like a consumer monster.:smile:) With your help Ill be cutting the extras for the next try so thanks for that, so are sensizym products a lie or are they for a specific purpose - situation that I dont have?Is it bad to pour it in anyway?

Magash btw., I think you have great results with the plants because you beat them very hard to make them strong. :smile:) I grew my stuff with communication and love...:grin: Ill try to be less fragile in the future after learning the limits.

To everyone, have a nice happy day!

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Re: drip system - seedlings - deficiency question [Re: stara]
    #805988 - 02/14/16 06:07 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Hello again,

Now it's the end of flowering week 2. I had one week of adaptation with 12/12 - the flora chart micro=gro=bloom and the second week with low Nitrogen (7,5micro, 2,5 gro, 10 bloom).
For the last week Ive started to add canna boost (60ml) and like from the start rhizotonic (decreased to 40 ml).
Im making the PH 6,1 and one day later it sinks to 5,6.
EC is now 0,9 for the last week and I plan to increase it 0,1 point every week from now on.
The plants stretched a bit and start to form some white hairs.
The humidity is %45-%50.
I found some questions to ask again. :smile:

- Do you think they will stretch more and not fit in the cabinet; the most stretching is happening in the first two weeks of the flowering right? As seen from the pictures I have max. 1 foot height left for the cooltube. :smile: I hope it wont be a jungle. :smile:

- Do I have a lot of colas for the space what do you think? Will it gonna work with this crowd the yield and humidity for the last weeks.

- I have tied and bended one aggressive cola this doesnt harm it right? May be I will need to use this for others in the future if correct.

Would you have other advices? Any feedbacks to make me aware of some potential risks Ill appreciate? I know it's hard to guess from a distance but if there are obvious things you can pick from the photos...

Thank you  all, have a great day!:crazy2::smile::thanx:














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Re: drip system - seedlings - deficiency question [Re: Magash]
    #806009 - 02/15/16 04:42 AM (8 years, 11 months ago)

great thanks a lot again...
just a bit more patience, love and may be some angels to protect them :smile:) - will be enough then  :smile:

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