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drip system - 250w veg - 400 w / 600 w flowering
#800821 - 12/09/15 01:28 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hello everyone, Im a newbie here:) second post... (I was in shrooomery before.) This is the cv. Hope I post in the right forum sorry if Im not...
This is the setup, its a long story I tried to summarize and may be from the pictures you can help me correct the problem with my seedlings.(or may be I will toss them for a new start:()
They are in their fourth week.I transfered them to hydroton like one and a half week ago. I gave them some canna rhizotonic and supervit. The rockwools were a bit wet by the time I transfered them, roots couldnt breath properly. At first drips were streaming 24/7 but with valuable info from Magash thanks a lot to him btw. I switched to 30/30 streaming to give some chance to roots. I also added 1/4 flora trio combination at first (in the beginnig of the third week) and then after 4-5 days I added 1/4 more.250 watt MH... exhaust fan taking air out of the cabin and out of the room through cooltube. The humidity was low like %30 in the room so I run an humidifier to make it %50-%70. Ph is 5,5-6,5 Temp is getting higher till 27 when light is on.
Here they are what do you think Btw looking at the pics I feel good but they dont look as healthy and green in the real life. I wonder if they will get better with time or should I start again from the beginning to save time, money, yield. Thanks from now, love to all cannafellas:))
this white widow has a brown spot on it I searched the web; fungi/deficiency or what?
this is the other superskunk
this superskunk fell down with the water drip watering on it and I fixed it with a plastic fork. There are some yellowing and curling down on the end of the older leaves.
Edited by stara (02/15/16 05:53 AM)
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Re: drip system - seedlings - deficiency question [Re: stara]
#801633 - 12/17/15 02:30 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hello,
Ive got some updated pics do you think the plants have nutrient (nitrogen?) deficiency? Because the old - first and second - leaves are getting yellow and curly drying and the tips of some leaves are a bit light green; I will measure ppm tommorrow but I wanted to ask beforehand. I added a bit less nutrient solution to be safe (1/4 flora trio) as I dont have a ppm meter yet.They are in their fifth week.
Thank you! And have a nice day and night:)
white widow:
superskunk
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Re: drip system - seedlings - deficiency question [Re: stara]
#802130 - 12/24/15 11:31 AM (9 years, 28 days ago) |
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Hi again,
With the Ph around 6 and 1,2 EC, its been 4 days now and I saw some burning signs on the lower leaves tips.(Actually I was wondering when I was adding nutrients I had to add the amount the manufacturer adviced - flora trio- and I felt a bit nervous because it's always said to add the half they advice, however, with the half dosage EC wouldnt have been 1.2 so I went on to see what happens)
After the burning signs yesterday I diluted the reservoir to EC 1 and poured 5,8 ph water on the pebbles to wash away some excess nutrients. Today again the EC was 1,1 and I repeated the process adding ph water again now the EC is 1 again.
I have several questions:
1)Did I do a right think by washing and diluting or is it normal for the plant to have this kind of burning at first? 2)Do my plants lack roots and is this the reason they couldnt handle the EC 1.2? 3)Is it possible that my HM digital ec meter showing wrong EC? 4)Do my plants still look good:)? Should I do anything else. (more diluting?or leaving them alone to adapt?) 5)Is it better to produce roots first in the rockwool; and then feeding them in the reservoir because my other experiment rockwool plants roots are looking good and that made me think of this idea? And I saw some videos like this.
Pics are below:
Thanks again I appreciate! It was a good exprience I hope it will last:))
This is the rockwool I saved to see what happens and the roots look cool. Is it worth to wait for the roots to get like this before transferring to reservoir system? I gave the rockwool rhizotonic water from the bottom.
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Re: drip system - seedlings - deficiency question [Re: Magash]
#802585 - 01/03/16 03:40 AM (9 years, 19 days ago) |
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Thanks:) Now they look like this. I changed the reservoir yesterday after 10 days. Dropped the EC from 1 to 0,7 as some lower leaves have burnt a bit (its been 7 weeks from seed till now) I feel like in place of burnt leaves the plant try to burst new leaves in the lower part. These side nodes will be trained too, right? I mean under the scrog? Or should I remove them to make the plant focus on the part which is topped? Here in this guide they remove the lower leaves leaving one healthy leaf for photosynthesis: http://www.growweedeasy.com/manifold
I think I should wait till the new nodes where I topped the plant will grow a bit and then bend them and top them again right? To have more colas to use under the scrog? Would you have other advices? And is the place where I topped the place I will put the net right on it ? Because from there on I will go horizontally. (I hope so:))
Thanks again:)
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Re: drip system - seedlings - deficiency question [Re: Magash]
#803411 - 01/17/16 11:00 AM (9 years, 4 days ago) |
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Hello again:)
I improved the circular drips; now the drips are feeding circular from 6 different holes for one.The previous system had some problems and I thought before having salt built up I would rather solve the problem. I dropped the ec to 0,5. (I think with 250 MH the plants only can use this amount of nutrients, is it correct if I say more light means more nutirent consumption - assuming one has the same healthy roots? For getting the sense)
I took some more pictures, it's the end of the 9th week.
This is the view before scrog.
And this is the view after mounting the scrog. Before tucking.
After tucking:
What do you think, any recommendations? One of the plants is not very fast so may be I should remove it completely to save space for the aggressive ones right? And what about the lower side branches under the net. Should I clean them with time or all at once? Aaaaand as for the lower leaves, I should cut the ones without cola and with scissors right?If yes.
Thanks for any feedbacks...
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Re: drip system - seedlings - deficiency question [Re: stara]
#804135 - 01/24/16 12:37 PM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hello again,
10th week ended. And I tucked the ladies a bit. I broke one of the branches and taped the place where it broke... After that now Im a bit more careful I removed the slow weak plant behind left and I try to fill its space with the other branches.
I dont know what to do with the cola in the back of the tent which is strecting. Sometimes I think everything is directing to the sides of the canopy so I start to get nervous for the center. Do you bend the branches forward and then back or u shapes?
And my second question is: should I switch to 12-12 or should I wait for the sides to fill? These are white widow and superskunk. May be some advices?
Thanks for any feedback! Have fun...
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Re: drip system - seedlings - deficiency question [Re: stara]
#805231 - 02/03/16 02:30 PM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hello again,
Now its the end of the 12th week. I switched to flowering 4 days ago.
PH 5,8 - 6,1. EC 0,6. (the same as veg. stage but I use flora trio and changing smoothly to blooming percentages (chart of GH) Dropped the humidity to %45. It can go to %30 without humidifier so Im gonna drop it slowly. Temps are 20-21 C night and 25-28 day. Veg light was 250 watt MH, now I switched to 400 watt dual spectrum for flowering. Philips here:
http://www.hydroponics.eu/grow-lamp-sont-plus-400w-philips-bloom~1441.html
I added a bit H2O2 for algae 40 ml %3 with the rez change.And after that 10 ml everyday to clean the algae and stuff.(its been 4 days and the roots look to grow faster; may be a coincidence I dont know)
Im adding weekly canna rhizotonic in small doses.
I also started to add sensizym 4 days ago.
I change the rez weekly...
My questions:
- Should I use 600 watt HPS for the last stages of flowering to boost the ladies. May be a special lamp only for blooming? (not dual)
- Would it be a mistake to cut the H2O2 after this week to let some beneficial organisms appear again or spread. Is sensizym effected by H2O2 btw?
- The on/off buton of the humidifier has a very tiny weak blue light. Do you think it will shock the plants while the lights off?
- After this week Im planning to add canna boost and at one point canna pk. Do you think it will work with flora trio? Actually I bought a bottle of Big Bud two months ago(advanced nutrients) but I made a research and now I changed my mind to pay for canna boost and see what happens. Please correct me if Im bullshiting.
Thanks for any feedback, I hope I will finish healthy...
This is the final pic:
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Re: drip system - seedlings - deficiency question [Re: stara]
#805988 - 02/14/16 06:07 PM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hello again,
Now it's the end of flowering week 2. I had one week of adaptation with 12/12 - the flora chart micro=gro=bloom and the second week with low Nitrogen (7,5micro, 2,5 gro, 10 bloom). For the last week Ive started to add canna boost (60ml) and like from the start rhizotonic (decreased to 40 ml). Im making the PH 6,1 and one day later it sinks to 5,6. EC is now 0,9 for the last week and I plan to increase it 0,1 point every week from now on. The plants stretched a bit and start to form some white hairs. The humidity is %45-%50. I found some questions to ask again.
- Do you think they will stretch more and not fit in the cabinet; the most stretching is happening in the first two weeks of the flowering right? As seen from the pictures I have max. 1 foot height left for the cooltube. I hope it wont be a jungle.
- Do I have a lot of colas for the space what do you think? Will it gonna work with this crowd the yield and humidity for the last weeks.
- I have tied and bended one aggressive cola this doesnt harm it right? May be I will need to use this for others in the future if correct.
Would you have other advices? Any feedbacks to make me aware of some potential risks Ill appreciate? I know it's hard to guess from a distance but if there are obvious things you can pick from the photos...
Thank you all, have a great day!
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Re: drip system - seedlings - deficiency question/ don't buy from mbferts.com [Re: Goldilocks]
#808104 - 03/16/16 04:17 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hello again, after one month wait for nature to show its magic:) @Magash
Yeah there is a magic however for a first time grower I had a hard time I must admit. My roots are taking nutrients less than before; I think this is because of the salt build up; and still continuing. I flash weekly and after the flash they take good amount of nuts but after two days it slows down again. I dropped the ec from 1 to 0,7 now and the same goes on. Ph is dropping fast in this small rez. daily I adjust it when filling. I think it shows that roots are acidic. I dont know may be this is all they need and may be there isnt a problem but I felt a bit impatient about their sizes comparing the similar setups on the internet. May be it is all about the flush of the cameras they take pictures. I realized the flush of the camera spreads white in the garden at photos so buds look bigger.
I've learned a good lesson though, I have been adjusting ph to 6 and it was falling down to 5,5 the next day but after some research I found that under Ph 6 magnesium is not absorbed well so probably this explains the deficiency for the big colas leaves below. Now I adjust PH to 6,3 and it goes to 5,6. Should we always change it do you change the ph? Do you think this deficiency will slow down this colas growth:(? Or is it because of heat.?
And I defoliated the bush a bit, it was also a freaking think. I couldnt understand what and which to pick so probably I removed to many fan leaves and I didnt removed side colas enough to focus on the main branches Im not 100% sure. But next time I will try better.
This weak I started pk 13/14 and it made a difference. Started at half dose and I add a small amount everyday. I plan to carry on this till the last two week flash, correct me if Im wrong.
What do you think generally, are they normal? ) light is 600 watt now for 2 weeks. (it was 400 watt before) temps are 27C day and 20C night.
Pics (WWidow and SuperSkunk):
The big cola was also heat stressed (30C max) and the leaves curled a bit. I didnt think any bad thing about her she was so beautiful to be suspicious but then I realized.
And here we have a side flower downstairs near the scrog net. I hope they will mature nearly the same like the top colas with 600 watt. We will see.
other pics...
Thanks for any feedbacks and sorry if I sound like a real freak.
Have a nice day to all!
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Re: drip system - seedlings - deficiency question [Re: stara]
#808844 - 03/27/16 03:17 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hello guys,
I have white widow (dinafem) and superskunk (sensi) here. It's their 56 day into flowering. (The seed companies say both have 45-50 days flowering time but I thought I better look and sense the right time.) The trichomes of the leave I picked near the best bud look half cloudy like they have different from everthing also some rare amber points. ( I picked from the bud which pistils mostly orange and curled in.) I know may be it is hard to tell from a distance but what would you say? Should I start flushing? (I plan one or two week flush, the rez water is filled with pk 13/14 people say its strong stuff the ec now is 0,6 though.) Is it possible that it's still early for harvest and having some amber points while half cloudy in the same time? I compare with the pics on the net but the trichomes are not thick cloudy everywhere with mine.
Or did I missed the train for harvest window:/?
Thanks a lot for your feedbacks I appreciate.
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Re: drip system - seedlings - deficiency question [Re: stara]
#809632 - 04/04/16 02:27 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hi again, after one week wait for the trichs now I took some new pics. May be I should go for a bit more with nutrients? To get clody trichs... without counting the transition week it's now 55th day of flowering. (I was always counting with it but may be it was wrong... May be one more week before a 2 week flushing?
Any feedbacks will be great... I wait but I dont want to be late either sooo thanks a lot!
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Re: drip system - seedlings - deficiency question [Re: Magash]
#810846 - 04/14/16 04:59 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hello guys again, I made a patience cure for myself; I said to myself dont panic and dont ask silly questions because you cant wait a week more. but you wrote some important things here I didnt see them till now.
Actually I was checking the trichomes for getting milky. They started to get milky now a bit more. I think some rare amber small heads but not with every bud. I also tested a bud with one day drying and it makes still head high not very physical effect. I think my plants roots have some salt build up problems so the plants are slow in my opinion. (compared to your high performing plants:)) I flush the roots with water to get rid of salt build up every 4-5 days one hour flushing and they eat a lot of food after that. After 4-5 days the nutrient intake is stopping. Is this wrong? EC is 0,5 now but my max EC for the whole grow was 1.
What do you think about them? Do you think I screwed it.? I was planning to start flushing them tommorrow. And in between they will rip fully I have guessed. Now with your comments here should I flush for only one week? Should I forget to expect more amber trichomes and harvest anyway soon.? I would be glad to do that tired of waiting. I dont want early picked weak high though. So your feedbacks will be golden.
Thanks a lot again!
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