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 ShortCircuit
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 ShortCircuit's first official Widow growlog   1
#797049 - 10/16/15 06:27 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Really excited for this one!
got these fem seeds from a friend... the housing space is 54 cf 3x3x6 lwh. i have a 420cfm carbon filter (hella expensive  !!) hooked up to a 400w enclosed bulb fixture with a 435cfm fan pushing air over that bulb and out of the tent. the intake comes from outside this space where the air is cooler.
i germinated on the 17th of September.
annnnd.... it looks like i managed to delete most of my pictures from my drive.... bummer. still got them as seedlings though...
these are my little babies today... just topped them twice again today, only the two non-krinkly looking plants that dont look heat stressed. the other one looks like it's starting to adjust having been rotated.
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i am curious about the minor leaf curling, and the new growth seems skinny on two of the plants,
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ShortCircuit
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Re: ShortCircuit's first official Widow growlog [Re: ShortCircuit]
#797050 - 10/16/15 06:37 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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curling off to the side i mean* the droopiness is a tiny case of minor root rot from over water... it should clear up in several days as the soil dries out.
so after a month now, the soil should be depleted mostly of nutrients and should need some additional ferts? i picked up some fox farms grow big... will be using that along with some root stimulator from gh with some squid and seaweed.
the soil is ammended with dolomite lime, and shouldnt be having any pH problems.. but is it possible that the water ive been giving them at 8 is messing with them even with the lime?
i am thinking of flushing with pH 7 water adjusted with pH down (however much it tells me to a gallon from pH 8)
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 Magash
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Re: ShortCircuit's first official Widow growlog [Re: ShortCircuit]
#797056 - 10/16/15 10:05 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah you can start a little bit of a feeding and see how they take it.
Start adjusting the water before you give it to the plants and stop with the 8 ph water.
Everything looks pretty good have fun with the grow.
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Re: ShortCircuit's first official Widow growlog [Re: Magash]
#797168 - 10/19/15 08:10 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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plant 1: "Daisy"
in this picture you can see the leaf structure curving off to the side. in a lower branch, there is a problem with the formation of chlorophyll, not sure what this is all about.... only thing i know that does that is TMV(tobacco mosaic virus)
plant 1: "Daisy"
in this photo, the tips of these leaves are showing nutrient deficiencies, lighter green as opposed to the rest of the leaves. many leaves have dark and thick leaves possibly to too much nitrogen.
plant 2: "Rose"
in this photo, you can see possible heat stress. this plant must be sensitive... also, the newer growth has more of a variable coloration, doesn't look healthy to me.
plant 3: "Dom"
this plant is the heahlthiest. she is the tallest. however, you can see the leave structure on that main fan leaf turning off to the middle with wrinkles. something seems up.
plant 2: "Rose"
close up of the new growth. weird structure mixed with lighter green
these plants were given pH'd water at 7 and a dose of FoxFarm's 'Grow Big' yesterday or the day before, along with some root hormone, bio weed, and bio marine from GH
the lights have been adjusted another several inches above Dom to not bee so close.
what say you guys?
Post in progress~ please stand by for editing
Edited by ShortCircuit (10/19/15 08:20 PM)
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TrueHerbCrystal
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Re: ShortCircuit's first official Widow growlog [Re: ShortCircuit]
#797192 - 10/20/15 02:16 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Are you growing white widow?
Cause thats my favorite strain 
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ShortCircuit
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Re: ShortCircuit's first official Widow growlog [Re: TrueHerbCrystal]
#797195 - 10/20/15 04:21 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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all i know it's called "widow" don't think it's white widow, but i could be wrong.
bumping this thread for advice, how am i doing ??
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Re: ShortCircuit's first official Widow growlog [Re: ShortCircuit]
#797266 - 10/21/15 02:52 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Looks healthy to me.
Nice work. 
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Re: ShortCircuit's first official Widow growlog [Re: TrueHerbCrystal]
#798636 - 11/13/15 09:30 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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the plants are quite big today. 'Dom' the healthiest and fastest growing of the three has made into flowering and has changed it's growth pattern to be asymmetrical somehow. it has something to do with the photoperiod, obviously... but im not 100% sure how. i was leaving the closet door open for the vent to run outside all the time, and had it closed completely when i was away from home out of town. what should i do at this point? should i go ahead and just drop into flowering, or is it possible to let it ease back into vegetative growth? i dont think the pattern goes back, but does it matter?
i really wanted the tent to fill up a bit more... perhaps i will post some pics today...
UPDATED
Alrighty... here's a pic of the plants as they are today...
i have to say, i'm not a huge fan of non-organic nute lines so far, and this pH stuff is a little ridic considering i've been adjusting the ph and still getting some light green/slender new growth.
Stoney, if you're followin' man, i'd love to hear somethin' from ya
Edited by ShortCircuit (11/13/15 04:53 PM)
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ShortCircuit
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Re: ShortCircuit's first official Widow growlog [Re: ShortCircuit]
#798664 - 11/13/15 04:53 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Updated above post with fresh pics
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Re: ShortCircuit's first official Widow growlog [Re: ShortCircuit] 1
#798672 - 11/13/15 10:36 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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is it possible to let it ease back into vegetative growth?
Possible yes, but takes time, and at this point may not be worth it to ya.
Those pics look pretty good to me.
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Re: ShortCircuit's first official Widow growlog [Re: Stoneth]
#798673 - 11/14/15 12:09 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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no doubt. what would you do at this point? let the tent fill a little more or pop these mama's into flowering? i'm leaning towards filling up...
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Re: ShortCircuit's first official Widow growlog [Re: ShortCircuit]
#798676 - 11/14/15 12:49 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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How far above the soil is the screen?
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Magash
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Re: ShortCircuit's first official Widow growlog [Re: ShortCircuit]
#798677 - 11/14/15 12:51 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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into flowering and has changed it's growth pattern to be asymmetrical somehow. it has something to do with the photoperiod, obviously... but im not 100% sure how.
For the first two weeks the plants are adjusting from veg to flowering so they tend to stretch a little at this time and branch a little more esp if they are sativas. Plants with sativa in them may stretch up to 3 times there height during flowering.
During the first two weeks when the plants are switching from veg to flowering I like to use a 50/50 veg/flowering mix.
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Re: ShortCircuit's first official Widow growlog [Re: Magash]
#798698 - 11/14/15 09:16 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Magash, what do you mean by a 50/50 veg/flowering mix?
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ShortCircuit
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Re: ShortCircuit's first official Widow growlog [Re: Magash]
#798708 - 11/14/15 10:48 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Stoneth said:
How far above the soil is the screen?
about a foot or so, which should leave me with 2-3 feet of flowering space, a square meter if i did things right.
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Magash said:
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into flowering and has changed it's growth pattern to be asymmetrical somehow. it has something to do with the photoperiod, obviously... but im not 100% sure how.
For the first two weeks the plants are adjusting from veg to flowering so they tend to stretch a little at this time
what i meant was, i'm not sure how light got in to alter the photoperiod.
also, that stretch is basically the plants looking for light, correct? and an slower adjustment of the photoperiod will ease this transition into flowering and lessen both the stress and the stretch from the plant no? like going from 18/6 -> 16/8 -> 14/10 -> 12/12 say, over the course of 2 weeks?
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During the first two weeks when the plants are switching from veg to flowering I like to use a 50/50 veg/flowering mix.
i picked up tigerbloom thinking it was organic for vegetative growth, and i have some 'earth juice' organic mix for flowering. as i understand, even if the npk values are fairly low, the concentrates/synthetic nutes are more readily available to the plants than the organic line. my gut tells me i should adjust that ratio of the mix. does it matter? i've noticed that i can easily overdo the tigerbloom.
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Magash
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Re: ShortCircuit's first official Widow growlog [Re: Scribbler]
#798758 - 11/14/15 09:02 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Scribbler said:
Magash, what do you mean by a 50/50 veg/flowering mix?
the plants get 50% veg nutrients and 50 flowering.
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Re: ShortCircuit's first official Widow growlog [Re: ShortCircuit]
#798809 - 11/15/15 11:22 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
ShortCircuit said:
Quote:
Stoneth said:
How far above the soil is the screen?
about a foot or so, which should leave me with 2-3 feet of flowering space, a square meter if i did things right.
Personally I'd start flowering.
A 400 hps only has about 16 inches of good penetration, and they should stretch one to two foot after the switch.
I'm also not a fan of the slow count down on the time change, never saw any real benefits in it.
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ShortCircuit
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Re: ShortCircuit's first official Widow growlog [Re: Stoneth]
#798853 - 11/15/15 04:12 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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right on.
some things have drastically changed with my living situation, and the plants have to be moved or destroyed. i'm pretty upset right now and have been since yesterday afternoon.
gonna need all the good vibes or whatever right now to get me through harvest, i'm tired of things coming up and fucking me over before i can get anything from my work. 
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Re: ShortCircuit's first official Widow growlog [Re: ShortCircuit] 1
#798860 - 11/15/15 06:47 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sorry to hear that man.
Hope all works out well for ya.
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Re: ShortCircuit's first official Widow growlog [Re: Magash]
#798988 - 11/17/15 11:59 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Magash said:
Quote:
Scribbler said:
Magash, what do you mean by a 50/50 veg/flowering mix?
the plants get 50% veg nutrients and 50 flowering.
Ah thanks! Good luck OP that sucks.
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