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 Chemical Addiction
 
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 questions on first hydro grow turned half-assed grow log 
#758219 - 11/20/14 06:43 PM (10 years, 2 days ago) |
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I bought two ebb/flow set ups (piece by piece to save a little money), one for vegetative and one for flowering.
I understand the lighting from growing in soil, the nutrients have directions on the bottle, I'm using botanicare liquid karma 5 ml/gallon for the rooting clones but I have CNS 17 Grow,CNS 17 Bloom and CNS 17 Ripe for later
I have a 20 gallon reservoir if that makes a difference, the veg set up only has one air stone, the flowering will have two but I don't know how often to run them.
The timers are in half hour increments. Below are some pictures of set up so far. The guy at the hydro store said I should put a layer of clay pebbles at the bottom so the roots don't get smashed but they float so I decided against it.
He also said to change out the water once a week since I don't have PPM meter. I get my water from a machine outside of the convenient store that filters water for drinking because the water here has a lot of chlorine in it
I made cuttings last sunday and plan to put the plugs into the larger rockwool cubes this sunday (will stay in tray under dome until following sunday)
Questions:
1) How long/often should the air stones run
2) How long/often should the pump run.
3) Is 15 gallons the right amount for a 20 gallon reservoir or should I do 20 because the water has to fill tray above it?
4) Is the information I've gathered so far correct i'm going to start veg set up not this sunday but the next.
Some pictures, can take more
I rinsed some clay pebbles in anticipation
The reservoir with the water pump and airston already set up
The clones 5 days old now
These are also clones that are a few weeks old, they will replace the original mother plants, I already threw the weaker ones out
EDIT: I forgot to mention the timers for the pumps are 15 min intervals not 30 like the air stone timers
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Edited by Chemical Addiction (02/25/15 08:43 PM)
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Magash
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I've never found a need to ad air-stones so I'm not sure on that one.
 
The pump should be able to do the job in the half hour at the least. Myself I'd get new pumps if it didn't do the job in 15 minutes or less. You can run them every 3 hrs and have no problems.
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3) Is 15 gallons the right amount for a 20 gallon reservoir or should I do 20 because the water has to fill tray above it?
How many gallons does it take to flood the system. I like reservoirs that hold at least twice the amount needed to flush. (more actually)
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Is the information I've gathered so far correct i'm going to start veg set up not this sunday but the next.
If your serious about this get a ppm meter. PH can be done with drops and have no problem. I myself hate the quality of PH meters and only use the drops but that is a personal preference.
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Re: Timer questions on first hydro grow [Re: Magash]
#758225 - 11/20/14 07:07 PM (10 years, 2 days ago) |
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Thank you for the reply it's much apprecited, I will get a ppm meter but I spent almost $1200 on equipment/lights already so it will have to wait.
I also plan on getting more nutrients after I get a hydro grow under my belt, the nutrients have a chart with a whole bunch of different nutes but I just didn't have the spending money 
does it matter if I get the ph drops from a pool supply store or should I get them from hydro store?
Also I don't know how many gallons I need to flood yet but I will figure it out next week, I have 25 gallons of filtered water just need to add nutrients
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Magash
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Thank you for the reply it's much apprecited, I will get a ppm meter but I spent almost $1200 on equipment/lights already so it will have to wait.
Been there I hear ya.
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I also plan on getting more nutrients after I get a hydro grow under my belt, the nutrients have a chart with a whole bunch of different nutes but I just didn't have the spending money
You just need the basic nutrients. 95% of the additives out are junk to take your money.
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does it matter if I get the ph drops from a pool supply store or should I get them from hydro store?
Doesn't matter. They both cost around the same and work the same way.
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Re: Timer questions on first hydro grow [Re: Magash]
#758231 - 11/20/14 07:18 PM (10 years, 2 days ago) |
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Thanks again, like the shroomery i'm sure the info can be found via the search engine, but everytime I look for something I get distracted by some of the threads that show up and forget I was looking for something, just start looking through tread after thread.... 
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GroweryAddiction said:
Thanks again, like the shroomery i'm sure the info can be found via the search engine, but everytime I look for something I get distracted by some of the threads that show up and forget I was looking for something, just start looking through tread after thread....
fixed... ... . . . 
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Chemical Addiction
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Re: Timer questions on first hydro grow [Re: vinsue]
#758234 - 11/20/14 07:40 PM (10 years, 2 days ago) |
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haha yeah I do enjoy just looking at growing plants, the screen name I used is the title of an Alice in Chains song, I fell in love with the title before I even listened to the song. (its a good song too)
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Chemical Addiction
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So I decided that I will use the closet for vegetative and will build a grow room similar to the on in Jorge Cervantes Ultimate Grow DVD only a little smaller for flowering.
My question after watching that videos again is will I need two lights? The plants will take up approximately 2.5 feet X 3.5 feet.
I was hoping to just buy one 1000W light but if I need two I will get two 600W lights
The main reason i'm doing this is so I can hook up a carbon filter, but also so the veg plants aren't just sitting out in my plant room in plain veiw.
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I think you'll need 2 lights because you want to veg at 18 hrs/day and flower at 12/12. ,
but I could be wrong. I'm a relative noob, too.
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Re: Timer questions on first hydro grow [Re: vinsue]
#759427 - 11/27/14 09:36 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I already have a light for veg and will only use one for vegetative, I was asking if I need two for flowering, there will be 8 plants in a container that's 26" wide by 43.5" long.
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My question after watching that videos again is will I need two lights? The plants will take up approximately 2.5 feet X 3.5 feet.
One ligth will do.
At that size a 400 or 600 would do well.
A 1000 would also work, but I'd predict some heat issues at some point in that small of a room.
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Chemical Addiction said:
I already have a light for veg and will only use one for vegetative, I was asking if I need two for flowering, there will be 8 plants in a container that's 26" wide by 43.5" long.
8 plants in a container that small? Not the best of ideas. But if you are going to do it, use 8 clones of the same strain, not from seed, but clones.
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Chemical Addiction
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the room will be 8'W X 8'L X 7.5'H in case I want a second flowering set up, I posted a pic above of what i'm vegging in. I have the same thing for flowering.
I already ordered the plastic have to get light, in-line and oscillating fans, 2 X 4's for the frame and I have some romex (sp?) left over from another job.
Here is what I will be flowering in it was labeled as 2X4' but wsn't that big when measured, I already took 8 clones in rockwool.
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Chemical Addiction
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I think I will stick with one air cooled 1000W since lights are expensive
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My bad, the photos didn't show up on my phone. I thought you were using soil.
I would recommend PVC pipes for the frame over wood.
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Chemical Addiction
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Because they hold moisture or because of price? I do build some stuff out of pvc but it would be nice to drill into wood when mounting stuff like fans/electric boxes
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Lighter, cheaper, easy to take down and put up. Zip ties work great to mount things to it. PVC can also be drilled into as well. It is also much easier to sanitize than wood.
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So I dont think i understand?
Your 2 question. Did you get an answer? I think Mag said every 3 hours is good. But not sure. The reason Im saying Is I want to know my self how many/long, and times should you pump water or spray the roots.
Edited by budgrowerwannabe (11/28/14 09:33 PM)
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Re: Timer questions on first hydro grow [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
#759677 - 11/28/14 09:33 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well it depends on the type of Hydro system you have. Are you going to be running ebb/flow, dwc, aero?
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Well I want to run the easiest. I have everything pumps and shit. Just dont know how offen the water should run. Either spray or flood?
Noob to the water hawk.
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my aero cloner runs 1 min on and 5 off
my dwc is 24/7
I dont have my ebb/flo system set up yet but reservoir size and the amount of plants being run matters on how long it takes to fill and drain.
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Re: Timer questions on first hydro grow [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
#759687 - 11/28/14 09:53 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well if you have everything, then you already have decided on what you are going. I personally prefer DWC. That's just me though. A bucket with air pumps and water, super simple. Now you can make it a bit more complicated, which I recommend.
Aero can vary widely from my understanding. When I ran it, I would run the sprayers for about 5 minutes on, 5 minutes off.
I haven't ran ebb and flow.
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Re: Timer questions on first hydro grow [Re: 13buds]
#759688 - 11/28/14 09:57 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I just built my own areocloner! Ill get a pic up when i get some girls in it.
I wanted to do like flood the table then let it go down . Then flood the talde again and so on. Using the same res. Right. How often should it run?
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Re: Timer questions on first hydro grow [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
#759689 - 11/28/14 10:03 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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DWC Is really what I think ill do.Thats what i dont have is a good air pump.I have alcheapos for the fair fish but shit I need a high powered one /or 5 lol
I do have the pumps for the table .I would have to get a timer.
I have like 6 already.
Sorry for jacking yo thread.
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Re: Timer questions on first hydro grow [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
#759690 - 11/28/14 10:04 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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You''ll most likely be safe running it every two hours.
As for how long you want it to run for, figure that on how long it takes to fully flood.
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Re: Timer questions on first hydro grow [Re: Stoneth]
#759693 - 11/28/14 10:11 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Cool So every two hours I can flood 6" Rockwool .Sweet Im going to try it .
Sup Stoney Nice to see ya.
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Re: Timer questions on first hydro grow [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
#759701 - 11/28/14 11:00 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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DWC Is really what I think ill do.Thats what i dont have is a good air pump.I have alcheapos for the fair fish but shit I need a high powered one /or 5 lol
 
my dwc - 4 pop can sized air stones each tub, 20gal tub w/15 gal of water up to bottom of 10" netpot, 1 hydrofarm kit for viewing water levels and ppm/ph checks and draining.
 
my aero cloner
I dont have n inside shot but its a submerged pond pump hooked up to a pvc tube circular deal I put together that has ez clone sprayers in it about every 4-5" all the way around, bout 25 of them.
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Edited by 13buds (11/28/14 11:09 PM)
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Re: Timer questions on first hydro grow [Re: budgrowerwannabe] 1
#759704 - 11/28/14 11:29 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I wouldn't. I run every two hours with hydroton and that has no water holding unlike the rockwool. Every two hours in rockwool is asking for root rot.
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Re: Timer questions on first hydro grow [Re: Magash] 1
#759717 - 11/29/14 06:23 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I wouldn't. I run every two hours with hydroton and that has no water holding unlike the rockwool. Every two hours in rockwool is asking for root rot.
Seems to me rockwool only makes sense with drip to drain and one or two feedings a day. But the real question is why people still grow in it.
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Re: Timer questions on first hydro grow [Re: GoonerHeClips]
#759718 - 11/29/14 06:30 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I wouldn't. I run every two hours with hydroton and that has no water holding unlike the rockwool. Every two hours in rockwool is asking for root rot.
Seems to me rockwool only makes sense with drip to drain and one or two feedings a day. But the real question is why people still grow in it.
I use it because its easy to root in, but if I can root clones in straight hydroton I will switch.
For now i'll go with the rockwool because its easy and i'm not home almost half the day so the water retention is nice.
I think I will try just using the plugs to start out and instead of putting them in a larger cube go to clay pebbles after a week.
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I wouldn't. I run every two hours with hydroton and that has no water holding unlike the rockwool. Every two hours in rockwool is asking for root rot.
Seems to me rockwool only makes sense with drip to drain and one or two feedings a day. But the real question is why people still grow in it.
I use it because its easy to root in, but if I can root clones in straight hydroton I will switch.
For now i'll go with the rockwool because its easy and i'm not home almost half the day so the water retention is nice.
I think I will try just using the plugs to start out and instead of putting them in a larger cube go to clay pebbles after a week.
Why not just put the plug into the top of the clay pellets, and start that way? Dome on top if you need to, can flood and let it drain through the rockwool and fill up your reservoir. Also the plant and the roots aren't subjected to light and handling were you to move it later. Then add your air pump stone and set up ebb and flow as you go...
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Magash
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If you have your rockwool system down why change. Roots love rockwool. The stuff does need to be flushed often cause it builds up salts easy but flushing it is easy to do. When I used it to root clones I had just as good a results as with plugs.
 
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Re: Timer questions on first hydro grow [Re: Magash]
#759746 - 11/29/14 12:21 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I wouldn't. I run every two hours with hydroton and that has no water holding unlike the rockwool. Every two hours in rockwool is asking for root rot.
Agreed!
I didn't realize he was using just rockwool for a medium.
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Re: Timer questions on first hydro grow [Re: Stoneth]
#759748 - 11/29/14 12:34 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I wouldn't. I run every two hours with hydroton and that has no water holding unlike the rockwool. Every two hours in rockwool is asking for root rot.
Agreed!
I didn't realize he was using just rockwool for a medium.
I dont have them in anything yet.
Maybe Ill use clay pebbles for my flood table. Just trying to see how many times i need to flood and when.
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Re: Timer questions on first hydro grow [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
#759749 - 11/29/14 12:41 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I would recommend hydroton.
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Sweet thanks hawk. This will be my first time trying hydro If you call it that. 
So what just flood that every two hours for however long it takes to get full? Right?
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Re: Timer questions on first hydro grow [Re: Magash]
#759778 - 11/29/14 04:33 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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If you have your rockwool system down why change. Roots love rockwool. The stuff does need to be flushed often cause it builds up salts easy but flushing it is easy to do. When I used it to root clones I had just as good a results as with plugs.
when you mentioned root rot it made me think, when I first soaked the rockwool cubes (not plugs) the directions were to not water for 3-4 days.
If i'm flooding the tray every 3 or even 4 hours wouldn't the rock wool stay too wet even though only the bottom of the cube will be in the water? The clay pebbles will mostly be under water when flooded but the rockwool works like a wick.
I'm finishing up the vegetative closet ATM, i'm going to put my clones into veg tomorrow will take some pictures when done. The roots are growing nicely in the rockwool.
When I fist put the plugs in the larger cubes there was/is a space. At first I thought it would be bad for the roots not even thinking about how they are exposed to air once in hydroton so I smashed in the top of 2/8 to fill in gap.
Then it hit me that the gap poses no problem, they are all looking good but I need new mothers. When the mothers were young they were getting 16 hours light 8 hours dark because that what my cacti were getting. I forgot to change timer for a few weeks until I noticed the plants were starting to flower! (out of stress I assume.)
Anyways I have more seeds I just need to start over and hope for all females again. Not start over completely just before I take more clones since these still have some small flowers at the nodes
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Re: Timer questions on first hydro grow [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
#759779 - 11/29/14 04:37 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sweet thanks hawk. This will be my first time trying hydro If you call it that.
So what just flood that every two hours for however long it takes to get full? Right?
You should have a drain that wont let the water rise above a certain point. magash recommended every three hours for the set up I have, and I was reading some of the overgrow FAQ (link is stickied in this forum) they said every four hours.
I'm a noob so I cant say from experience but every 2 hours seems like a bit much if your using rockwool as well as hydroton
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Sweet thanks hawk. This will be my first time trying hydro If you call it that.
So what just flood that every two hours for however long it takes to get full? Right?
You should have a drain that wont let the water rise above a certain point. magash recommended every three hours for the set up I have, and I was reading some of the overgrow FAQ (link is stickied in this forum) they said every four hours.
I'm a noob so I cant say from experience but every 2 hours seems like a bit much if your using rockwool as well as hydroton
If you use your rockwool plug with a hydroton flood and ebb system, that plug will be a pimple on the plants butt in about a week when the roots start growing down into the hydroton.
If you are going all rockwool, isn't a drip system the way to go versus ebb and flood, same as with coco?
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Re: Timer questions on first hydro grow [Re: GoonerHeClips]
#759892 - 11/30/14 12:36 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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So I got things set up, it was a pain in the ass getting the PH right but luckily I did it in the jugs rather than the reservoir. I didn't realize the nutrients lowered the Ph...
Anyways I put 15 gallons in at first and turned on the pump. It took ~5mins to fill to the point where its was draining. I waited until the pump turned off before adding more water, I used 20 gallons total.
After I took the first picture I relocated the small fan so it was closer to the bulb. I still need some oscillating fans. The fan in the door will run 24/7 the top fan pulls air out, the bottom pushes it in.
I still need a few pvc parts to better support the light, I went with 3/4" because I already had the pipe and most of the parts, although I would have preferred 2" I may switch later
I have the airstone running 24/7 just until I get a timer, The pump goes every 3 hours for 15 mins. The light goes for 18 hours. Once I get the oscillating fan I plan on keeping it going 24/7 unless you guys think that's too much.
Question: Should I remove the plastic sleeves on the rockwool? I believe I can do it without disturbing the plants if I don't wait to long.
 
An overview of the set up.
 
The fan in the door inside and out. I had to use mirror for outside pic beasue the closet is so close to the sinks.
 
the fan to help keep the light cool (may add a second if it gets too hot.
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So I got my oscillating fans in the mail on Monday, I put one in veg room and it has helped to keep the heat down. I put the fans in the door both on exhaust to help keep it cool as well.
The gap beneath the door is sufficient for pulling in air I believe and the oscillating fan helps as well. In the third pic the small clone was looking pretty bad about a week agao but is doing nicely now.
I had to cut two of the cuttings because they were growing faster than the others. I used multiple mothers to take the clones I really need just one large mother to take all eight cuttings from I think.
As far as I know the curled leaves are a result of the high heat, they are getting better for the most part since the temps. dropped.
I still need a thermometer/hygrometer to put in there but if I were to guess its between 85o&900 I'm working on bringing the heat down further, if all else fails I will turn the dimmer switch on light ballast down to 75%.
I know they don't need 600 watts for veg, but I figure the more the better. Any ways heres an update on how the girls are doing, feel free to point out if I'm doing something I shouldn't or something i'm not doing and should be.
Pic one is all of them, pic two is the one with the worst curling leaves (others aren't too bad), pic 3 is of the smallest clone and the bushiest
  
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So it's been a while since I updated. I just got finished taking clones and trimming plants. Next week I intend on putting them in flower. This is the third time I've trimmed, took a lot off each time. I expect them to grow another 4-6 inches by next sunday but I will hopefully only have to trim off leaves next week not any branches.
I bought some PVC to modify the container they sit in for flowering. I will have the pvc go along the longest sides of the container, the will stick out about 6-8 inches and be about half way between the top of the plant and the roots so I can tie off the plants. Will be easier to explain with pictures when I do alter it.
The first 2 pictures are of the plants before trimming, the third and fourth pics are of after
   
Instead of making a thread in doctors diagnosis I was hoping one of you could tell me what this is. It's not on a whole lot of the leaves but more than I like. Its not just bottom leaves they were mostly on top. I managed to get the temperature down to 85o but I need a dehumidifier the RH is 70%.
 
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Anyone want to see my girls lovely lady parts? You can see them better after a trimming, I took off the yellow fan leaves as well as some of the green ones to improve light penetration. I know they still have a ways to go i'm just excited
I've learned a lot from this hydro grow. Only had two soil grows under my belt, one of the biggest differences is how much the plants grew when transitioning to flower! I was expecting 2-3 inches not a foot.
My ceilings are only 8 ft. tall I would love to have 6 ft. (2 meter) plants, but they are growing above the light. I had to trim the ones that hit the glass. Will be doing a lot of little things different next time, should be a much prettier crop
     
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Your lady parts are looking awefully sexy.
I made the same mistake of flipping too late. I think I'm going to end up just snapping a few branches that are getting too close to the glass.
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Re: Timer questions on first hydro grow [Re: webster10]
#772223 - 03/15/15 05:57 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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My DS XTE 400 LED light came in yesterday, I just picked it up today. For the time being I have it set up in my veg closet since the HID went out. However when the current crop is harvested this light will be for flowering. I will supplement with two 4ft flouros since its a kind of skinny, but its long.
It's been running for over half an hour and 8 of the diodes wont light up. I tried just blue, just red and it had both on for 20+ mins. I sent an email to the company since it's to late to call.
    
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Those are IR or UV and wont light up in the visible spectrum. I'd like to see the growlog if you plan on doing one when you flower with it.
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Re: Timer questions on first hydro grow [Re: phychotron]
#772247 - 03/15/15 10:32 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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i'll do my best to take pics along the way, I need to do some minor alterations to my flowering room, I originally set it up so I could have 2 ebb/flow set ups but I just don't have enough power in that room.
Even though I have a shitload of breakers who ever wired this house decided to put all the receptacles and lights from 2 bedrooms, a bathroom and the garage on one 15 amp breaker.
I have to use an extention cord from another room with my 4HP shop vac or it flips the breaker.
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That's rough. Some people have shitty old electricity. When I lived across town in a house that was built in 1905 it had some archaic wiring with no third prong outlets anywhere in the house. I kept having to replace the power supply in my computer, like two times in one year. I assume it has something to do with the spikes and drops that the house was going through.
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Re: Timer questions on first hydro grow [Re: phychotron]
#772674 - 03/18/15 12:06 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Can one of you veteran growers give me an approximate time before harvest? I know that it varies strain to strain, but I want to know an approximate time so I can plan out my nutrients. When to start adding botanicare cns 17 ripe/flush. I had to turn off HPS to take pictures, I left a supplemental flouro I added on though.
     
The time tables on the back of the nutes is way too short, they vegged for about the same time as the bottles say they should have vegged, flowered and been harvested.
Some of the colas are looking nice but there are still a lot of very small flowers that have very white pistils. Some of the buds however have some red pistils and "frosty" leaves. The plants are (probably) different strains, one plant for sure.
The guy I got the seeds from had mixed up some of the strains and just put them in one bag. I decided to start with these since it was my first hydro grow. I didn't want to use the labeled strains until I had at least one hydro grow down. I still have a single skunk #1 seed, some Silver Haze X Sensi Star, some 3HB (Jack Heir x GDP x SS),SS (sensi star) romulan, romulan mix, and some labeled KSB don't remember what that stands for.
I've got some clones in veg from the mixed strain and i'm debating on whether I should use some of these seeds since they are about 3 years old or if I should try one of the feminized Durban poison seeds I bought. I want to do one Durban poison (pure sativa) with a LST type grow and have one plant in both veg/flower instead of 6-8. But seeing as moving the plant from veg to flower would be a real pain in the ass I was thinking I would just start it in my flowering room.
If I move some stuff around I could build a second flowering room downstairs near the veg and do indica strains down there. but I can't really spend money right now seeing as I need another work truck, a fucking cop pulled out in front of me and damaged the front end/ frame/ gearbox/ fender and more.
Surprisingly enough he even took responsibility (verbally) until more cops showed up and started coaching him on what to say (or rather not say). meh that's a story for another time. It happened less than a week after spending $1200 on an LED 
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no one want to hazard a guess? I ordered a jewelers loupe last night, I was thinking I would change out the nutes this Saturday and next Saturday start the 2 week flush. So about 3 weeks more, I switched them to flower January 25th so they have been flowering for 7 weeks this sunday, another three would bring it up to 10 weeks.
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I have those same strains from Buddaking and your also the ONLY one to have the exact same strains Ive had until just this year 
they are all 8 week flowering strains, the KSB is Killer Super Blueberry and was very good, wish I had more but its no longer for sale that I can find.
heres some of the sensi star I got from him. 
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Re: Timer questions on first hydro grow [Re: 13buds]
#772945 - 03/20/15 06:00 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have those same strains from Buddaking and your also the ONLY one to have the exact same strains Ive had until just this year
Haha must be a coincidence  . Thank you for the reply, the reason I wanted to wait was so the bud would get bigger (I can be greedy sometimes) but I don't want to harvest too late it wouldn't be worth the extra weight. I suppose when I get home from work I will start the flush this week and turn them into 9 week flowering plants.
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After you said they were 8 week flowering plants I was worried they would have to be harvested a bit late, but my jewelers loupe came in today and most of the trichomes are clear, I only saw some cloudy or milky trichomes and they were sparce. most looked like water droplets I found a pic that is very similar to mine (I don't have a really good camera or hand-held microscope that takes pics)
They look like this
It turns out the flush is about three weeks. On Saturday I used 25 ml/per gallon of the botanicare ripe, I will change out water tomorrow with 20 Ml/per gallon and on monday I will change out water again with 10 ml/ per gallon. I plan on harvesting not this sunday but the following. Will keep checking on the trichomes in the mean time, the buds have already put on some weight from the Ripe
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Re: Timer questions on first hydro grow [Re: 13buds]
#777286 - 04/28/15 10:45 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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About time to finish this thread up. I harvested 17 days ago, did the first two weeks of drying now they are in jars. 1.5 quart jars of nice looking buds, and one quart jar of small buds and buds that weren't very dense i'm keeping for myself.
I definitely made mistakes, biggest one being switching over to flower too late (might have done it again recently but wont be as bad) Anyways there were a lot of budsites, i'd estimate that almost 50% of the bud (weight-wise) was removed and added to the trim for edibles/oil.
I still need to figure out what i'm going to do with edible/oil material, it's dry now so it wont mold. I want something easy to dose with limited baking skills or some sort of extraction. was thinking cookies or extracting an oil and using an oil burner. Any suggestions welcome.
Anyways here are some pics, The first pic is only about half of the edible/oil trimming, most of the leaves were in a box at the time that was mostly bud stripped off the branches. I left the plants whole until day 5 they were starting to dry unevenly (small branches going brown while others bright green.
       
Still need practice with the cure, I kept the humidity above 50% but by day 6 the buds were getting crispy on the outside. The Boveda packs are helping for other stages.
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