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 KiefMan
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 winterizing bho with 99% iso 
#750802 - 10/02/14 08:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Can I winterize bho with 99% isopropyl alcohl , or must it be ethanol ? And if ethanol must be used , can I use 95% ethyl rubbing alcohol ? I must say that the rubbing ethanol has some really and I meen REALLY shitty tasting additivest , far worse than any iso that is sold in Vancouver , British Columbia pharmacies , and high test ethyl alcohol cannot be bought here , the highest % drinking ethanol that is clear and colourless is 62.5 % and the cost is insane - 45Canadian $$ for 12 imperial ounces ! So needless to say that takes food grade ethanol out of the fucking picture ! any help ???
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P-O
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Re: winterizing bho with 99% iso [Re: KiefMan]
#750865 - 10/03/14 01:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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what is winterizing bho?
and farm stores sell HUGE jugs of iso for $99 here (manitoba)
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Stoneth
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Re: winterizing bho with 99% iso [Re: P-O]
#750948 - 10/03/14 09:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Appears to be a process of de-waxing.
First I heard of it, reading up on it now.
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Re: winterizing bho with 99% iso [Re: Stoneth]
#758774 - 11/24/14 06:11 AM (10 years, 8 days ago) |
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captain.koons
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Re: winterizing bho with 99% iso [Re: 13buds]
#761055 - 12/09/14 11:05 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ethanol is preferred because it's a less aggressive solvent. You don't want the plant waxes to dissolve into solvent, you want them to coagulate so you can filter them out of solution. You can use 99% iso, but you will accomplish nearly nothing.
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pizzeria
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Re: winterizing bho with 99% iso [Re: 13buds]
#761985 - 12/16/14 09:47 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Haha dude that video sucks...the guy used a half pound of shitty bud a whole bottle bottle of expensive as fuck grain alc and says absolute shatter...note to wannabes if you use shitty ass bud no point in doing this cuz its still subpar wax and dude got like two dabs of "shatter" off a half pound -smh ftw
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pizzeria
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Re: winterizing bho with 99% iso [Re: pizzeria]
#761994 - 12/16/14 11:15 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Oh and Google search ethanol and methanol (iso) completely different molecular structure
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GreenHorns
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Re: winterizing bho with 99% iso [Re: pizzeria]
#762298 - 12/19/14 12:19 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Blackdove on the shroomery has a neat tek involving acetone and a heat/freeze process that does make rocks. Brings a lot of chlorophyll with it but it gets the job done.
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captain.koons
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Re: winterizing bho with 99% iso [Re: GreenHorns]
#762612 - 12/21/14 03:52 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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pizza:
When you're winterizing BHO aka absolute grade there's very little difference between trim and bud of the same strain as you're left with a very clean product, almost identical potency. If you're not winterizing the quality difference is due to the contaminants in the leaf. The leaf has a smaller ratio of trichomes vs plant matter compared to the calyxes.
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pizzeria
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Re: winterizing bho with 99% iso [Re: captain.koons] 1
#762769 - 12/22/14 12:09 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I would need to test that myself first hand to believe, you basically say no difference between trim and flower only runs...idk bro I just d.k.
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pizzeria
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Re: winterizing bho with 99% iso [Re: pizzeria]
#762770 - 12/22/14 12:14 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think its like everclears two may be 100 proof but one taste shit ones good...you get what you put in.. the essence will be shit.. iu believe mech mex bud would be a lot less productive than homegrown ya know
Edited by pizzeria (12/22/14 12:19 PM)
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captain.koons
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Re: winterizing bho with 99% iso [Re: pizzeria]
#762951 - 12/23/14 01:00 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Mex would be out yielded by homegrown and have more stuff to clean up.
Same thing goes for trim, it's about composition. You might have double the contaminants using trim and less cannabinoid concentration but once you clean the product up you're removing contamination thus increasing potency.
It's akin to distillation of alcohol. You can start with a 2 % mash or a 20% mash, less work will be needed to get the 20% up to 95% and the product will be easier to clean starting with the 20% mash (although not always the case). There are virtues of using bud such as higher yield vs solvent used and also with less purification you can retain more flavor as the winterization process removes much of the flavor.
Fact of the matter is, if you remove all the solvent and contaminants from a product it can't be any purer, it can only vary in it's composition. When working with absolute grade, there's not much of a difference.
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Re: winterizing bho with 99% iso [Re: captain.koons]
#763120 - 12/24/14 11:41 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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if you guys are talking about getting all the wax from the weed I would go with butane butane yes is very harmfull if u don't use it right but if you use it right and know how to use it it makes a very good payoff at the end and is not harmfull atall if you remove all of it
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captain.koons
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Re: winterizing bho with 99% iso [Re: budgrower420]
#763161 - 12/24/14 02:26 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Holy fuck, is English you're 6th language or something?
I think, I know what you're talking about, maybe....... Butane has nothing to do with winterization.
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pizzeria
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Re: winterizing bho with 99% iso [Re: captain.koons]
#763411 - 12/26/14 12:22 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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U did clear up absolute grade...however what's absolute grade 80% THC wouldn't a small amount be mex terpenes...yuck
Edited by pizzeria (12/26/14 12:26 PM)
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Re: winterizing bho with 99% iso [Re: pizzeria]
#763413 - 12/26/14 12:28 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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absolute is as pure as possible, 200 proof or 100% ethanol grain alcohol. or as close as you can find/get/make. 
put down the dabs when you type pizza guy 
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pizzeria
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Re: winterizing bho with 99% iso [Re: 13buds]
#763421 - 12/26/14 01:54 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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He was talking absolute grade wax not absolute grade alcohol...sorry
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pizzeria
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Re: winterizing bho with 99% iso [Re: pizzeria]
#763422 - 12/26/14 01:57 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Futhermore I assume absolute grade would be THC acetate ...that everclear from shitty bud wax video has to be in no way absolute
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GreenHorns
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Re: winterizing bho with 99% iso [Re: pizzeria]
#763484 - 12/27/14 10:49 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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What's you ultimate goal? Higher melting point?
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